Instead of killing Jean,why couldnt Logan

Jean had to die she was too dangerous to stay alive. And why should Logan have died? Just because you don't like him?
 
X-Maniac said:
It does indeed say that she amplifies the powers of mutants. I'd have liked to see an amped-up Storm take her on!

I'd imagine a cure dart would vaporise before it got to her, as she managed to turn all the ones fired behind her into dust.

Oh, so she is Fabian Cortez now?
 
So why didn't Phoenix knock Logan back like she did in the exam room? Is the running theory that Jean controlled it enough so that Logan wasn't flung clear across the Pacific, but that she couldn't turn off the demolecularization/disintegration? I thought it was a bit sloppy there.
 
Hmm yeah...I must agree with you here!
 
Ive actually tried to anwer this question myself may times over, but I think trying to cure her would have been a little to risky. If Logan's holding it in his hand and trying to approach her, she would either destroy it or even worse use it against him. And as someone said in a previous post, If the cure is not permenant then that would be pretty bad for the world. Killing her was really the only way to stop her.
 
It seemed to me that Jean was holding back, whereas Phoenix wasn't inteersted in actually killing him anyway as she didn't see him as a threat.
To me it seemed like Phoenix was enjoying simply blasting at him, tearing away his flesh, basicaly torturing him and seeing how much he could possibly take. Then, when he never backed down, no matter how much she hurt him, and walked right up to her, her response was "You would die, for them??" As though she were surprised that he went through all that, though mistankly, she thought it was for the sake of everybody else.
 
when Jean died she really seemed content...guess she was happy to die and so stop killing so many. i mean you could see the real jean when she closes her eyes and dies.
 
Mothling said:
It seemed to me that Jean was holding back, whereas Phoenix wasn't inteersted in actually killing him anyway as she didn't see him as a threat.
To me it seemed like Phoenix was enjoying simply blasting at him, tearing away his flesh, basicaly torturing him and seeing how much he could possibly take. Then, when he never backed down, no matter how much she hurt him, and walked right up to her, her response was "You would die, for them??" As though she were surprised that he went through all that, though mistankly, she thought it was for the sake of everybody else.

Ooooh, I like this explanation.
 
Decay said:
when Jean died she really seemed content...guess she was happy to die and so stop killing so many. i mean you could see the real jean when she closes her eyes and dies.

psst... she had an orgasm...

...

-hides-
 
chaseter said:
She would destroy the cure needles...like his skin and clothing. Unless he swallowed them...released them with a bowel movement...and then STABBED HER!
Hadn't she already done that? I figure the only needles left intact were the ones used on Magneto.
Besides, at her level of power there's no guarantee it would've even worked.
And you didn't really think the Dark Phoenix was going to live, did you?
 
I don't think Jean killed Logan because when she is Phoenix she doesn't think logically, she just goes on instinct. She'd been using her little disintigration power killing everyone so she kept using it on him. Thinking "this isn't kill him, I should improvise and try to kill him another way" isn't instinct, it's logic, which the Phoenix lacks.

As for Adamantium withstanding demolecularization, come on, don't read so much into it. They say it's industructible, it's industructible, the movies don't go into why, thus you don't know why, thus in the movies, you can't say that it could or couldn't withstand Jean's powers.

I really enjoyed the ending very personal and emotional. I also liked how Logain didn't take 5 minutes to kill her, in most other movies there would be too huge long monologues and she would force him to or something. No, Logan completes his character arc himself and does what must be done with minimal fluff. Also, it had to be Wolverine killing Jean from an emotional perspective. It couldn't be Storm or Iceman or anything because how they kill people isn't even close to as personal as Wolverine kills them. They can kill people from a distance, making it just another cool special effect, when Logan kills anyone it is a personal emotionally intense experience.

The ending was done perfectly. Well I would have liked for Cyclops to come back and help out, and realize that Logan would be the only one to kill Jean and then Cyclops just leave with Storm and the rest of them.
 
spidoman said:
I don't think Jean killed Logan because when she is Phoenix she doesn't think logically, she just goes on instinct. She'd been using her little disintigration power killing everyone so she kept using it on him. Thinking "this isn't kill him, I should improvise and try to kill him another way" isn't instinct, it's logic, which the Phoenix lacks.

If you what you say is true, and Phoenix really was trying to kill him, then she could have easily obliterated everything on Wolverine except for his adamantium skeleton. And the fact of the matter is, she didn't.
 
November Rain said:
there were butt shots of bana in the hulk, the ratings allow for butt shots...

no need for his trousers...

Have people actually forget Wolverine was naked in the first two films?
 
spidoman said:
As for Adamantium withstanding demolecularization, come on, don't read so much into it. They say it's industructible, it's industructible, the movies don't go into why, thus you don't know why, thus in the movies, you can't say that it could or couldn't withstand Jean's powers.

It's indestructible in solid form. Phoenix could've easily heated up the adamantium within Wolverine and killed him in the process. Wolverine was turned into some fckin god in X-Men III. It made me sick.
 
Mothling said:
If you what you say is true, and Phoenix really was trying to kill him, then she could have easily obliterated everything on Wolverine except for his adamantium skeleton. And the fact of the matter is, she didn't.

Because she was also super-enhancing his healing powers, as a side-effect of her powers. As stated in the novel, and by someone else on here.

Because a small, humane part of her (the good Jean Grey) was stopping her obliterating him.
 
he was shirtless in the x-men... and in the flashback in x2, he was naked.
 
X-Maniac said:
Because she was also super-enhancing his healing powers, as a side-effect of her powers. As stated in the novel, and by someone else on here.

Because a small, humane part of her (the good Jean Grey) was stopping her obliterating him.

Yes but Spidoman was implying that Phoenix was trying to kill Logan. In which case she could have done. It wasn't that Logan was too strong for her.
 

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