Comics Is anyone actually excited for O.M.I.T?

[Spider-Gnome]

I said it before, I'll say it again. The problem wasn't that Pete married a super model. The problem was they made MJ a super model. It works much better having her a struggling actress off-off Broadway and occasionally taking a modeling gig.

And no offense to you long time guys, but I'm a long time guy myself. And I felt the developed relationship of Pete & MJ throughout the 70's & 80's was very natural and worked. The only thing I may agree with you is that they rushed from the proposal to the wedding, totally missing opportunities with an engagement era.

 

[Meehaul]

I know and I understand where you're coming from. I just disagree as to the development of the relationship and the choice of partner--she shouldn't have been an actress/model struggling or not. BIG mistakes imho. But again, its only my opinion.

However, I do agree with you that Marvel messed up by not involving Weisman in the new animated series. I think there were ownership rights issues to TSSM, so I understand why it had to be cancelled. It did not need to end Weisman's involvement, though. He's done by far the best job of bringing SM to the small screen. Truly sad that in the Disney take-over that show didn't get to survive. I worry we'll get the Super Hero Squad version of Marvel Team Up. Truly atrocious.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

I honestly understand and respect your opinion, Meehal, even though we don't agree. That said...

However, I do agree with you that Marvel messed up by not involving Weisman in the new animated series. I think there were ownership rights issues to TSSM, so I understand why it had to be cancelled. It did not need to end Weisman's involvement, though. He's done by far the best job of bringing SM to the small screen.

We are in total agreement here!

 

[Donald Thomas]

I said it before, I'll say it again. The problem wasn't that Pete married a super model. The problem was they made MJ a super model. It works much better having her a struggling actress off-off Broadway and occasionally taking a modeling gig.

And no offense to you long time guys, but I'm a long time guy myself. And I felt the developed relationship of Pete & MJ throughout the 70's & 80's was very natural and worked. The only thing I may agree with you is that they rushed from the proposal to the wedding, totally missing opportunities with an engagement era.

Aloha,
I still say she should have turned his proposal down and stuck to her guns. Then you could have had a long standing dynamic where she knew his identity, liked him as a person, but the Spectre of Spider-Man continued to keep them apart.
Spidey rules

 

[stillanerd]

Well, Steve Wacker has recently chimed in about One Moment in Time and other things to expect from Spider-Man:

On July 21, in "Amazing Spider-Man" #638, fans will finally read the first chapter of a previously unrevealed event from Peter Parker's romantic life as writer Joe Quesada and artist Paolo Rivera kick off "One Moment In Time," an arc set to detail exactly what occurred on the day Peter was supposed to marry Mary Jane. " It's the story of what happened on the wedding day, and it's the story of what broke Mary Jane and Peter apart. It's a big story for us because it's the sequel to the giant story, 'One More Day,'" Wacker explained. "It's certainly our tentpole book of the summer. We've got beautiful art, both by Paolo Rivera and Joe (along with his partners in crime Danny Miki and Richard Isanove). We're running a chunk of the original Wedding Annual in there as well, because it spins out of that story. So the lovely Paul Ryan art from the 1987 Wedding Annual will be seen in the book.



"Like 'One More Day,' though, this story is ultimately a small, emotional character piece. It's big because of how it affects continuity and all that external stuff, but plot wise, it's not 'Siege.' If you're invested in these characters, that's what's driving this story," Wacker continued. "'O.M.I.T.' is a small story filled with big decisions; decisions that change two people's life dramatically. We've all had endless numbers of decisions that we've made - big and small - which affected the course of our lives. A decision to turn right when you're walking out of Grand Central Station affects you life in ways that you may never even know. So in my mind, stories like these are small…but if you care about the characters, you want to see how the choices they make in these stories shape them."


"O.M.I.T." will also include several revelations about some other long standing mysteries in "Amazing Spider-Man." Wacker revealed that readers will learn the secret behind the mysterious psychic blind spot that's been protecting Spider-Man's secret identity since the "Brand New Day" era begin.

He also made these statements about One More Day and the marriage:

While Wacker and his creators are utilizing the story opportunities that come with Peter Parker's status as a single man in New York City, that doesn't mean they've ruled out the possibility of long term romance or even another marriage for the character. "I don't think most relationships in comics - or any long-term storytelling format - are all that steady in the long term. I think people tend to read about them for a long time and they sort of get tired of them and feel like those relationships - be they romantic or not - should change or have some obstacles thrown in the way. A non-dramatic relationship of any sort with no conflict whatsoever just isn't very practical or realistic. Am I supposed to believe that the Thing will never leave the Fantastic Four again?" Wacker remarked. "Then I've taken some of the fun out of reading that book. So in terms of Spidey, I definitely think Peter could get married again at some point to change things up down the road. I've said that from the get go.


"I don't think what they did in 'One More Day' meant that the marriage wasn't important. I don't think you could have done that story without the marriage...without their love. We couldn't have the status quo we have now without those years of great stories with the marriage, but sometimes you do something else for a while."

"For a while, Mary Jane was the right woman for him and events eventually broke them up. They might bring them back together at some point, too. We've certainly talked about that. We never had any intention of writing her out of the book," Wacker continued. "I think anyone that Pete decides to love next is inevitably going to have to be compared by the readership (and Pete) to Mary Jane because she's such a great person and has been his longest, deepest relationship. She has her own problems, but the yin and yang of their personalities worked really well. But on the other hand, it's like, 'Oh my God! Is Ms. Marvel looking at me? Does she like me? What's going on here? I can't tell!' I don't think Pete reads signals very well. Socially, he can be kind of clueless. On this subject, I am well versed."

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=26965

 

[ben_reilly_s_s]

Events did NOT break them up, they wantedd a single Spider-Man, they made him a single Spider-Man. There was NO build up....

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Actually, there are two things that need to be cleared up that it sounds like some people are combining.

First, what happened on the day of the wedding that Pete & MJ did not get married, yet went on a vacation (honeymoon) and move in together. Obviously, whatever happened did not break them up as they remained a couple, just not married.

Second, what happened in those "missing 100 days" that did cause Pete & MJ to break up. It would also be nice to see how they handle the whole Back in Black storyline.

 

[ben_reilly_s_s]

it doesn't make sense for them to not get married, yet still go on a "honeymoon" especially if they are broke and struggling with money all the time.

And after all the time of "not being married" what was it that made them break-up?

It's just too forced, it has/had no build-up what-so-ever.

Ben Reilly, Baby May, Back in Black, Aunt May @ Avengers, how she got better, all this needs to be addressed, i doubt we'll get any of this in the 4 issues of OMIT

 

[Spider-Gnome]

it doesn't make sense for them to not get married, yet still go on a "honeymoon" especially if they are broke and struggling with money all the time.

Puma gave them the trip to Paris for their honeymoon as a wedding present. I guess now he gives it to them because he's such a nice guy.

 

[mre]

There is no changing what is already in print.

The way I look at it is: Everything happened in chronological order according to the comics.
They got married, he revealed his ID, back in black happened, then Peter made a deal with the devil and turned everything into BND. And that is what happened. Everyone in the comics just thinks history happened a little differently.
It's the comics, there are tons of things that don't make sense.

 

[ben_reilly_s_s]

Well, Peter remembers it differently also...
Thats part of the biggest problem...
Does he remember Aunt May getting shot? or any of the other crap?

 

[WolfCypher]

it doesn't make sense for them to not get married, yet still go on a "honeymoon" especially if they are broke and struggling with money all the time.

And after all the time of "not being married" what was it that made them break-up?

It's just too forced, it has/had no build-up what-so-ever.

Ben Reilly, Baby May, Back in Black, Aunt May @ Avengers, how she got better, all this needs to be addressed, i doubt we'll get any of this in the 4 issues of OMIT

It doesn't make any sense that Peter proposed to MJ twice...the 1st time she rejects him, then she changes her mind...then OMD-canon and the wedding happens, but they don't get married...still they go on a honeymoon apparently, and move in together immediately after the cancelled wedding.

WHO DOES THAT?

"I know you proposed to me twice, and then I left you at the altar (or whatever happened on that day they didn't get married), but lets live together and have sex...and maybe even a baby!"

 

[Spider-Gnome]

There is no changing what is already in print.

The way I look at it is: Everything happened in chronological order according to the comics.
They got married, he revealed his ID, back in black happened, then Peter made a deal with the devil and turned everything into BND. And that is what happened. Everyone in the comics just thinks history happened a little differently.

If it is only the memories that changed, you've changed the Amazing Spider-Man to the Adulterous Spider-Man.

It's a Back to the Future timeline instead of a Lost timeline. The first time down the timeline they married, the second time, they didn't.

 

[mre]

If it is only the memories that changed, you've changed the Amazing Spider-Man to the Adulterous Spider-Man.

It's a Back to the Future timeline instead of a Lost timeline. The first time down the timeline they married, the second time, they didn't.

Shrugs. It is what it is.

All I can tell you is that I own Amazing Spider-Man Annual #21, and in it Peter marries MJ.

 

[WolfCypher]

I'm expecting the revelations in OMIT to have the same affect on me when they revealed how Harry is still alive; I thought that reveal was lackluster itself, and didn't have any real impact on anyone in the Spideyverse.

 

[Dragon]

It's a Back to the Future timeline instead of a Lost timeline. The first time down the timeline they married, the second time, they didn't.

It's garbbage, is what it is. Quesada, with his lack of respect for coniinuity, lack of creativity and obtuse logic (Marriage and divorce would damage Peter's image, but deals with Satan and magicical secret identity shields are okay) has painted Marvel into the same corner that DC via their multiple Crises were painted into. Which says he also doesn't learn from history.

 

[Meehaul]

Yup, tho I can see Marvel not wanting to have Pete divorce. They should have done the honorable thing and just killed her off. I opposed the marriage--especially to MJ--but once it entered continuity, it would have been better had Marvel respected that continuity. Plus, if Marvel had killed MJ with just a random event, a car accident, bad sushi, whatever, and not a super-hero related death, I think that would have set up several interesting emotional possibilities for Pete and still have gotten rid of the marriage (and idea I strongly supported).

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Just so everyone knows, I'm the last person to defend Joe Q's position. Was this reboot idiotic, out of character, and unnecessary? Of course! 100%! I was just saying how continuity works now (and I'm using continuity loosely).

 

[moraldeficiency]

Yup, tho I can see Marvel not wanting to have Pete divorce. They should have done the honorable thing and just killed her off. I opposed the marriage--especially to MJ--but once it entered continuity, it would have been better had Marvel respected that continuity. Plus, if Marvel had killed MJ with just a random event, a car accident, bad sushi, whatever, and not a super-hero related death, I think that would have set up several interesting emotional possibilities for Pete and still have gotten rid of the marriage (and idea I strongly supported).

Agreed, a dead MJ is much better than this nonsense. A non villain inspired death would have been interesting. Buck the trend.

 

[:eek:]

So why would MJ have to be killed? They could just as easily have written her out of the comics by letting her stay in California or something.

 

[fifthfiend]

Yup, tho I can see Marvel not wanting to have Pete divorce. They should have done the honorable thing and just killed her off.

They did that, and it was terrible and everyone stopped buying Spider-Man. Much like every attempt to get MJ out of Spider-Man is terrible and makes people stop buying Spider-Man.

 

[moraldeficiency]

They did that, and it was terrible and everyone stopped buying Spider-Man. Much like every attempt to get MJ out of Spider-Man is terrible and makes people stop buying Spider-Man.

Well to be fair the stories at that time were pretty god awful.

 

[Infidel]

Wow, comics are amazing. Joe Quesada produces the 'worst comic of all time' after a couple years of introducing garbage that doesn't matter towards that moment. He promises big stories that aren't fleshed out or written remotely well, virtually just lying to the readers faces. Yet, People still read this stuff.

Joe Quesada turns our beloved hero into a cowardly moron who cares more about his Aunt May than anyone else, making his the worst sort of human being. People still read the stupid book!

He makes it impossible for any future editor to captalize on a big even like an actual well-written big story about everyone finding out Spider-man was this guy Peter Parker, which is probably the last thing and biggest thing you can do besides killing him for real and then just lies about and it throws it out the window.

People still read this trash!

Ofcourse OMIT is bad. Ofcourse it's terrible. It's been bad for a long time and it's not going to get better. Even if it does, it's still about some idiot who bears the same name as that other character we liked in issues like Amazing Spider-man #312 or Spectacular Spider-man #200 or even Amazing Spider-man #400.

It's Joe Quesada bad. It's badly written and some of the art doesn't belong in a big professional Marvel comic.

It's Joe Quesada brand of awfulness.

Don't act surprised.

 

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