Is Anyone Else Getting a Little Tired of The Berlanti DC Shows?

[metaphysician]

Eh, I can't really see it. All the Berlanti shows have a certain soap opera sensibility to them, which AoS never really mimicked. They more felt like. . . Generic Adventure Procedural #19.

 

[marvelrobbins]

No as i watch them all even with faults and you couldn't pay me to watch agents of shield.everytime i try i just can't get through it.

 

[DrCosmic]

Eh, I can't really see it. All the Berlanti shows have a certain soap opera sensibility to them, which AoS never really mimicked. They more felt like. . . Generic Adventure Procedural #19.

Never? I remember a whole lot of Skyward and Fitzsimmons at one point, and tied in with plot developments Berlanti-style. Perhaps I'm condensing something spread out into a single soapy arc in my head though.

 

[Primal Slayer]

AoS thinks a lot more outside the box then any of Berlanti shows. If it doesnt revolve around Barry/Oliver/Kara, then it doesnt really get as good of a push.

Even though Flash/Arrow have a lot of great mythos to pull from, they dont really take advantage of it. 2 of Flash's rouges barely spent any time on the show and now 1 is dead.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

I enjoy the Flash and Supergirl, don't care for the others, and am not really interested in getting any more from the Berlanti camp. I would like to see some other TV voice take on some DC characters as well.

You have Bruno Heller doing Gotham. Do you really think Gotham is better than the Greg Berlanti shows?

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Gotham has better actors , better production values, dives deeper into its respective mythos, riskier in a ( generally) good way. And it seems to be on an upward trajectory quality wise. Not a great show, maybe not even a good show, but better than Arrow/Flash/Supergirl/LoT. Eliminate all traces of Fish Mooney and the disparity would be even starker.

 

[flickchick85]

You have Bruno Heller doing Gotham. Do you really think Gotham is better than the Greg Berlanti shows?

No, I don't, but I also don't think that proves Berlanti is the only one who should handle them.

 

[BH/HHH]

Gotham has better actors , better production values, dives deeper into its respective mythos, riskier in a ( generally) good way. And it seems to be on an upward trajectory quality wise. Not a great show, maybe not even a good show, but better than Arrow/Flash/Supergirl/LoT. Eliminate all traces of Fish Mooney and the disparity would be even starker.

While it may have better production values etc I couldn't disagree more on the upward trajectory. The second half of season 2 IMO was laughably bad, with the monsters etc. That finale was shocking and not in a good way.

I find Arrow the weakest of the shows and I'd take that over Gotham. Now don't get me wrong I watch Gotham, I like many aspects of it but its bottom of the pile for me.

 

[Slade W]

Gotham is nowhere near as good as Arrow or Flash at their best IMO.

 

[BH/HHH]

Gotham is nowhere near as good as Arrow or Flash at their best IMO.

I agree

 

[Iron Fist]

I've given Arrow, The Flash and Supergirl all a go, and I haven't been able to get into any of them. Without, I guess, criticizing the shows, I'll just say Berlanti's style isn't my cup of tea.

 

[Forever Evil]

I've dipped in and out of the DC shows.

Gotham is particularly strange because I enjoy the Gordon/Bullock stuff, but then it swings right around on the "Ham-ometer" when some of the villians are on screen. The tone is all over the shop.

 

[BH/HHH]

I've dipped in and out of the DC shows.

Gotham is particularly strange because I enjoy the Gordon/Bullock stuff, but then it swings right around on the "Ham-ometer" when some of the villians are on screen. The tone is all over the shop.

Yeah I agree, I've felt even since season one that Gotham has an identity issue. It's like it's trying to be Burton's Gotham but also Nolan's with at times a touch the 60s version to it. It's really strange.

 

[DrCosmic]

I could never get myself to watch Gotham because it keeps trying to do Batman storylines with Commissioner Gordon and I just couldn't handle it. I've heard good things about it too, but I feel like I'm going to spend most of the time bemoaning why this isn't a Batman show.

But if it's an identity issue, then I gotta say... at least the Berlantiverse shows know what they are, and stick to it, even if that thing is completely ridiculous.

 

[metaphysician]

Gotham is nowhere near as good as Arrow or Flash at their best IMO.

I would argue its nowhere near as good as them, at their worst. . .

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah I agree, I've felt even since season one that Gotham has an identity issue. It's like it's trying to be Burton's Gotham but also Nolan's with at times a touch the 60s version to it. It's really strange.

This is one of my main problems with Gotham. It tries to be cool and "gritty" one minute, then full-on cheesy camp the next. And none of it meshes. Some characters seem like they belong in a completely different show than others. Plus the ridiculous inclusion of all of Batman's rogues so early makes it seem like it just really wants to be a Batman show, but can't. And the writing for some of the characters' arcs has been straight-up atrocious. Ok, I have a lot of problems with Gotham, it turns out.

I'd take the worst of Flash and Supergirl over it in a hearbeat. Maybe not the worst of Arrow though, lol.

 

[Snow Queen]

Gotham's the only one I'm still watching this season, and yet it's also the one I think is the worst. But it's like I just have to know what crazy thing it does next, and it's rather fun. On the topic of the Berlanti stuff though, I enjoyed it as kinda filler shows, but my patience with them wore thin towards the end of last season and I just couldn't be bothered watching the last fourth or so of the season for Arrow, Flash and Supergirl. And still, I feel no urge to pick them back up, so seems I'm done with them for the time being.

 

[Bayne]

Gotham is nowhere near as good as Arrow or Flash at their best IMO.

Arrow is nowhere near as good as Gotham at its best. Or worst, actually, since Arrow is basically unwatchable. The Berlanti shows are some of the worst written, worst produced on tv. When they're good, it's mainly only because of the cast being strong enough to save the material (which the Arrow cast simply isn't strong enough to do). And even the best of the Berlanti shows (the Flash) is often dragged down by idiotic plotting, bad writing and wildly inconsistent characterization (yes, worse than Gotham's, sometimes).

At least Gotham looks nice and has some great drama among the wackiness (like Bruce/Alfred, Gordon/Bullock, etc). The Berlanti shows try to subsist exclusively on colorful action (which only the Flash actually even manages to do well) and terrible romance/soap opera drama (which none of them do well).

 

[Cobblepot]

Yeah they went the wrong direction with the DC shows. The only show that's is remotely enjoyable is The Flash.
The Marvel Netflix series are leagues ahead of them, I wish DC had the balls to do it that way.
Just imagine a Comm. Gordon series on Netflix.

 

[CaptainWagner]

I'd take Gotham over Arrow on the number of quality performances alone. In Arrow, a good actor is hard to find, despite Gotham's many flaws, it's for the most part very well-acted.

 

[Steyin]

I like them all still, but they, like several shows, reek of 90s sitcom formula. Many shows on TV I feel have not adopted to modern times. Netflix/HBO shows are on a whole other level. I even think the Marvel Netflix shows are better than the films.

 

[John Locke]

The Berlanti shows are the only network superhero shows that I watch because I like the characters. I still watch AoS and Gotham but I watch them because they keep bringing in new characters like Ghost Rider and Poison Ivy.

 

[WereCoyote]

Ugh, this is why I dislike so many people in the Comic fandom. We gripe for years there are no shows based on comics, then we get an explosion of them, and all we do is complain and say we're tired of them. Not me, I watch them all and when a season ends I can't wait for the next one. Are there things I don't like, sure, but I don't stop watching, because I'm afraid if a bunch of us stop, they'll stop making comic based shows, and it'll go back to the crap we had before.

 

[Slade W]

Arrow is nowhere near as good as Gotham at its best. Or worst, actually, since Arrow is basically unwatchable. The Berlanti shows are some of the worst written, worst produced on tv. When they're good, it's mainly only because of the cast being strong enough to save the material (which the Arrow cast simply isn't strong enough to do). And even the best of the Berlanti shows (the Flash) is often dragged down by idiotic plotting, bad writing and wildly inconsistent characterization (yes, worse than Gotham's, sometimes).

At least Gotham looks nice and has some great drama among the wackiness (like Bruce/Alfred, Gordon/Bullock, etc). The Berlanti shows try to subsist exclusively on colorful action (which only the Flash actually even manages to do well) and terrible romance/soap opera drama (which none of them do well).

Fair enough, but I do not agree. At their peak, Arrow and Flash received mostly praise from their viewers and critics alike. Criticisms were drowned out by praise. That was never the case with Gotham.

 

[Boom]

Frankly, I don't care for any of these shows, but at least I can get a good laugh out of the melodrama that Arrow and Flash have to offer. Gotham is just bad. Someone take it out back and shoot it.