Is anyone not excited about Spider-man in the MCU?

[Arach Knight]

Spider-Man is their crown jewel.

For licensing revenue, sure, but for film? Not anymore. Guardians of the Galaxy and The Winter Soldier brought in more money than the last two Spider-Man films. Marvel has effectively proven that they can function without Spider-Man, and even beat him at the box office.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

For licensing revenue, sure, but for film? Not anymore. Guardians of the Galaxy and The Winter Soldier brought in more money than the last two Spider-Man films. Marvel has effectively proven that they can function without Spider-Man, and even beat him at the box office.

Well hopefully we'll see Spider-Man return to glory. But since Spider-Man is simultaneously still at Sony, I expect to see a more a level playing field for all of Marvel's characters. Marvel wants Spider-Man to succeed but they also don't want to sell short what they've accomplished without him.

 

[Arach Knight]

Well hopefully we'll see Spider-Man return to glory. But since Spider-Man is simultaneously still at Sony, I expect to see a more a level playing field for all of Marvel's characters. Marvel wants Spider-Man to succeed but they also don't want to sell short what they've accomplished without him.

That sounds about right. And hopefully, we do see Spider-Man done right.

 

[starscream22]

After a few days and after finally getting the really understanding of this "deal" I've decided I don't care for this agreement. I feel like there really isn't much of a change. Sony is still in control and will still make crappy Spider-man films but the only upside is that Spidey can do cameo's in the MCU.

So I guess I'll just look forward to the MCU cameo's while continuing to skip the Spidey films till it's TRULY a Marvel property.

 

[CaptainWagner]

For licensing revenue, sure, but for film? Not anymore. Guardians of the Galaxy and The Winter Soldier brought in more money than the last two Spider-Man films. Marvel has effectively proven that they can function without Spider-Man, and even beat him at the box office.

Well, those movies weren't part of the MCU, so it's not really comparable...

 

[Tony Stark]

After a few days and after finally getting the really understanding of this "deal" I've decided I don't care for this agreement. I feel like there really isn't much of a change. Sony is still in control and will still make crappy Spider-man films but the only upside is that Spidey can do cameo's in the MCU.

So I guess I'll just look forward to the MCU cameo's while continuing to skip the Spidey films till it's TRULY a Marvel property.

Gotta disagree with you here starcream, the production team on the Spidey films is headed by Feige. Tolmach and Arad were basically fired. Sony is still in charge in the sense that they control the budgets, but the production team is basically what you had on the MCU films.

Anyone associated with the crappy Webb reboots is gone.

 

[Tony Stark]

Well hopefully we'll see Spider-Man return to glory. But since Spider-Man is simultaneously still at Sony, I expect to see a more a level playing field for all of Marvel's characters. Marvel wants Spider-Man to succeed but they also don't want to sell short what they've accomplished without him.

In some ways this is good, because they get to make the movie using Sony's money with Marvel's production team. It's not a perfect scenario, but I think it's the best of what can be made of the situation for right now.

I still want Spidey back at Marvel, but all of the crappy things we weren't looking forward to about the Sony Spider-man plans are essentially scrapped.

This won't be a re-telling of the origin, but it will be a soft reboot ala The Incredible Hulk. They are going to explore new ground, while they can acknowledge things like the death of Uncle Ben, the death of Gwen without directly connecting to things of the Webb films, like Oscorp creating all the villains, Peter's dad, etc.

 

[starscream22]

Gotta disagree with you here starcream, the production team on the Spidey films is headed by Feige. Tolmach and Arad were basically fired. Sony is still in charge in the sense that they control the budgets, but the production team is basically what you had on the MCU films.

Anyone associated with the crappy Webb reboots is gone.

I was thinking of the Spidey-verse as a whole specifically the spin-offs which Feige is said to have nothing to do with. Which is just Sony being greedy and wh###ing out more Marvel characters.

Reboot #3 could be alright, I just don't wanna see Parker's high school years again. So to me they're already starting off wrong.

 

[Tony Stark]

I was thinking of the Spidey-verse as a whole specifically the spin-offs which Feige is said to have nothing to do with. Which is just Sony being greedy and wh###ing out more Marvel characters.

Reboot #3 could be alright, I just don't wanna see Parker's high school years again. So to me they're already starting off wrong.

You're talking about the sinister six stuff? Yeah Feige won't produce those and there's nothing Marvel can do to stop that stuff. I agree with you there, but I think what will happen is that, those films are going to die off on their own. No one cares about a Spider-man spin off without Spider-man. You're right that's Sony being greedy.

I get what you mean about going back to the teen years. I do think it makes sense to go to a younger actor. I think the best timeline for Spidey is Peter as a grad student early to mid 20's, but I don't have a problem casting a 19 year old so they can get some mileage out of the actor.

Garfield was way too old for the role, and even more ridiculous that he's a 30 year old playing a high school senior.

 

[DawnWarrior]

While I do wanna see Spidey in Civil War, I can't quite get excited for another solo movie, even an MCU one. (Maybe that'll change when they release the first teaser.) I wanna see Spidey on TV. That would suit him much better.

 

[Kar]

Rumors suggests MCU Spider-Man will be Miles Morales

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Please stop with the Jeff Sneider nonsense.

 

[BoredGuy]

Outside of Spidey being in an Avengers film, I still fail to see the benefit here
not sure how much a Marvel-'produced' Sony Spiderman film will improve on whats been done before, and if it infringes on Marvel's growing diversity (I don't mean racial/sexual diversity really, I'm talking diversity of the types of characters) then its really not worth the tradeoff imo

 

[starscream22]

Rumors suggests MCU Spider-Man will be Miles Morales

Peter Parker or PASS!

 

[Shikamaru]

Even if the spinoff films happen, the potential is infinitely times higher now that they're in the MCU. I could actually see it working this time, potentially through a Marvel prison breakout film where Spidey's rogues are the protagonists, or maybe even have the project evolve into a Thunderbolts film (which we know James Gunn wants to do).

 

[Protar]

Rumors suggests MCU Spider-Man will be Miles Morales

I don't really see the appeal of Miles Morales if you don't have his arc taking up Peter's mantle. I mean you could just have a black Peter I suppose, although then that would feel like Morales would be being snubbed.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

One reason to not be excited: Tom Rothman is now head of Sony Pictures.

 

[BoredGuy]

Oh wow
That could not have gone any worse for Marvel
But hey, maybe Feige can slap him around a bit and get him to chill the f out

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I'm not now. Marvel should see if they can void this deal.

 

[Shikamaru]

Please let it be a prank...

Please.

Everything was going SO good the past few weeks...it would be a shame.

 

[Jason Kane]

I don't really see the appeal of Miles Morales if you don't have his arc taking up Peter's mantle. I mean you could just have a black Peter I suppose, although then that would feel like Morales would be being snubbed.

Oh, crikey NOO!!

Racebending, no matter the color, is dumb and redundant. Would Asian fans or readers cheer at DC or someone like Greg Berlanti or Josh Trank (or Akiva Goldsman though undetermined at the moment regarding Titans) for racebending Barbara Gordon as an Asian girl when they could easily use a far more superior Batgirl in Cassandra Cain? I ****ing well think not.

Even Dan Slott's tweet reinforces my stance on the topic.

 

[Jason Kane]

One reason to not be excited: Tom Rothman is now head of Sony Pictures.

I'm convinced Arad twisted some CEO/shareholder testicles to get Rothman the job

 

[sleekstereo]

Rumors suggests MCU Spider-Man will be Miles Morales

I can see this working if...they kill off Peter Parker in Civil War. Miles Morales then becomes the new Spider-Man in the stand-alone films and moving forward in the MCU.

 

[Protar]

Oh, crikey NOO!!

Racebending, no matter the color, is dumb and redundant. Would Asian fans or readers cheer at DC or someone like Greg Berlanti or Josh Trank (or Akiva Goldsman though undetermined at the moment regarding Titans) for racebending Barbara Gordon as an Asian girl when they could easily use a far more superior Batgirl in Cassandra Cain? I ****ing well think not.

Even Dan Slott's tweet reinforces my stance on the topic.

Usually I'm fine with changing white characters to ethnic minorities, so long as it doesn't result in a tokenistic stereotype and so long as the character's original ethnicity is not central to the story (I'm less okay with changing ethnic characters to white characters simply because that reduces diversity, rather than increases it.). But in this case I don't like the idea, simply because there's already a black spiderman who is his own character. And also having a black person take up the mantle of a cultural icon who was white is thematically very powerful in story imo. I'd like to see both Parker and Miles.

 

[Jason Kane]

I can see this working if...they kill off Peter Parker in Civil War. Miles Morales then becomes the new Spider-Man in the stand-alone films and moving forward in the MCU.

Very unlikely.

There is a bright side to this: Feige, Goddard/Whedon/whoever could use the Ultimate SM's Death of story (albeit tweaked at some compacity) and Miles beginning thus us and Marvel Studios will be free from entertaining the thought of infamous storylines coming to the big screen (Hello, Clone Saga!) as film #3