Is Batman And Robin the worst comic book film ever made?

[Kane52630]

One can handle the Adam West et al tv serial for knowing itself for what it was, B&R is simply just bollocks.

Batman and Robin knew what it was too, so did Batman Forever even though that was nowhere near as campy as B&R. The mission statement for the Schumacher films was to go lighter than the Burton films as a knee-jerk reaction to parents complaining about how dark Batman Returns was.

Mandon should come back to us after he's read Zebra Batman.

 

[Solid]

The thing is that all of these films are considered crap -- I've seen a very vocal minority of fans of Burton films (nothing wrong with it) that say that Forever and Robin are supposed to be superior to Rises and Begins, lol.

That makes me dislike it even more, because Batman And Robin makes The Amazing Spider-Man 2 look like The Godfather if we are being honest, there's nothing that works in the film, and i dislike how Bane was just a dummy in that film.

I wouldn't sit one time again in most of this films, that users mentioned in the thread but there's no doubt that Batman and Robin damaged the character itself far more than Elektra, Suicide Squad and many other bad comic book films did for their own.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Legend has it, Uma Thurman still has back pain from carrying this movie.

 

[Kane52630]

The puns, oh the puns.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I wouldn't sit one time again in most of this films, that users mentioned in the thread but there's no doubt that Batman and Robin damaged the character itself far more than Elektra, Suicide Squad and many other bad comic book films did for their own.

I mean yeah the movie was a joke but I wouldn’t consider it that damaging. Put it to you like this, it’s now 2021 and we’re about to see 3 Batmen on film in the wake of B&R compared to Elektra who only had one movie ever.

The puns, oh the puns.

 

[henzINNIT]

Batman & Robin's greatest crime was predating memes.

Hahaha I was about to mention BvS but I thought I’d give Snyder a break for once. I don’t know if it’s actually a worse movie but I can laugh at B&R. BvS just makes me facepalm.

You have more restraint than I, ha.

 

[Drizzle]

It's good for a laugh. I actually think it's more enjoyable to watch than Forever, which is not as funny and stuck in this shadow of the better movie that it could've been.

I've always preferred B&R over Forever mostly because Forever was grappling with itself on what the tone was.

When I last rewatched it, I realized that Forever kind of falls apart once Riddler and Two-Face meet because of how obvious it is that Tommy Lee Jones is trying to one-up Jim Carrey. I enjoyed Carrey as Riddler just because it was when he was in his prime, but it was still stunt casting and because of that, he's very much a distraction. Robin Williams was just as big a name as Carrey was, but if he had been Riddler we might have seen a character that was truer to the comics and maybe Jones would have played ball and not made Two-Face as over the top.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

This is the film that made Batman a cartoony laughing stock, with so many silly and dumb plot elements such as the so-called "Bat Nipples" or "Bat card" and were just awful, for one of the coolest superhero in cinema, whether you think other superheroes had lows such as The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Hellboy reebot and others i can't find a superhero film as insulting and bad as this one.

How some people can find this film good, amazes me.

In my view, absolutely YES. For what the character is and stands for, and it's original concepts, yes, without a shadow of doubt.

I can't say it's poorly made (I'm sure there's worse in that regard) but I've never been so disappointed in a movie as I was coming out from seeing B&R. I loathed it then, I loathe it now. It took one God-almighty crap on my favourite franchise. I own every Bat-movie other than that one. I'd even suffer watching the TC of JL again (something I've sworn never to do) before rewatching B&R. Utter garbage. I will never forgive it.

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So, that's a yes.

 

[Deck Rickard]

When I last rewatched it, I realized that Forever kind of falls apart once Riddler and Two-Face meet because of how obvious Tommy Lee Jones is trying to one-up Jim Carrey. I enjoyed Carrey as Riddler just because it was when he was in his prime, but it was still stunt casting and because of that, he's very much a distraction. Robin Williams was just as big a name as Carrey was, but if he had been Riddler we might have seen a character that was truer to the comics and maybe Jones would have played ball and not made Two-Face as over the top.

I can’t fault Jim Carrey for Tommy Lee Jones’s performance. I don’t care how much he hated working with him. TLJ gave the worst performance in his career and it’s not like he was good in the scenes he had apart from Carrey. He should be ashamed of himself. He seemed to think he was playing the Joker or something.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

When I last rewatched it, I realized that Forever kind of falls apart once Riddler and Two-Face meet because of how obvious Tommy Lee Jones is trying to one-up Jim Carrey. I enjoyed Carrey as Riddler just because it was when he was in his prime, but it was still stunt casting and because of that, he's very much a distraction. Robin Williams was just as big a name as Carrey was, but if he had been Riddler we might have seen a character that was truer to the comics and maybe Jones would have played ball and not made Two-Face as over the top.

You have no soul. That’s when the movie got real to 5 year old me!

 

[Drizzle]

I can’t fault Jim Carrey for Tommy Lee Jones’s performance. I don’t care how much he hated working with him. TLJ gave the worst performance in his career and it’s not like he was good in the scenes he had apart from Carrey. He should be ashamed of himself. He seemed to think he was playing the Joker or something.

The loud colorful half-animal striped suit didn't really do him any favors either.

You have no soul. That’s when the movie got real to 5 year old me!
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Even as a kid watching it, that tone shift was jarring going from Two-Face being kinda scary and murdering Robin's family to this:



I've always wondered why those security guards were just standing there. Sure, they were outnumbered and couldn't have done anything anyway but damn, at least run away or something.

 

[Detective Conan]

These are the top contenders for worst comic book movies ever made. All these movies are way worse than B&R.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

The loud colorful half-animal striped suit didn't really do him any favors either.


Even as a kid watching it, that tone shift was jarring going from Two-Face being kinda scary and murdering Robin's family to this:



I've always wondered why those security guards were just standing there. Sure, they were outnumbered and couldn't have done anything anyway but damn, at least run away or something.

I swear I always said the same thing too.

I also want to know how in B&R, Poison Ivy had enough time to create her own lair, bust Freeze out of Arkham, create a side in her lair to accommodate Freeze and have a new hairstyle in each of her scenes.

That damn Joel Schumacher. God rest his soul.

 

[Brother Jack]

I can’t fault Jim Carrey for Tommy Lee Jones’s performance. I don’t care how much he hated working with him. TLJ gave the worst performance in his career and it’s not like he was good in the scenes he had apart from Carrey. He should be ashamed of himself. He seemed to think he was playing the Joker or something.

And it's a shame because he could've played a great Two-Face under different circumstances. Jim Carrey could have done something deeper with Riddler too if the film was allowed to be darker, even though the performance as it stands is peak 90's Jim Carrey and it's entertaining in that way.

 

[Drizzle]

I also want to know how in B&R, Poison Ivy had enough time to create her own lair, bust Freeze out of Arkham, create a side in her lair to accommodate Freeze and have a new hairstyle in each of her scenes.

It's easy when you have a hulking man-servant to do your bidding.

I still can't with that hat.

 

[Kane52630]

I still can't with that hat.

The best part about that was when they showed those spy pics.

 

[Drizzle]

The best part about that was when they showed those spy pics.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I really want to get inebriated and have a Forever/B&R double feature. That joint would be hilarious.

HBO Max don’t fail me now.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I have a friend who will still dissect this Batgirl/Ivy fight.



To this day he still wonders why that flower ate Ivy when she has control over them. I’m like bro nothing in this toy commercial makes sense LOL.

 

[Drizzle]

I have a friend who will still dissect this Batgirl/Ivy fight.



To this day he still wonders why that flower ate Ivy when she has control over them. I’m like bro nothing in this toy commercial makes sense LOL.

And that's just Ivy's lair. I can't even try to make sense of Freeze's hideout. Why is it in an abandoned ice cream factory that's out in the open? You mean to tell me that neither Batman nor even the cops of Schumacher's Gotham, as bumbling as they are, thought to investigate the place? Why do his henchmen hang out there all the time if the temperature is well below freezing? Why does he make them sing? What's the deal with Vivica Fox's character and why is she even there if Freeze is completely uninterested in her? The insane thing is that his henchmen wearing ice skates makes the most logical sense of anything else due to his freeze gun.

 

[Drunken Rider]

Is it still the worst superhero movie? Oh yes, but it doesn't mean it's the end of the world afterwards. This kind of thing pave way for different entries, like.......umm....yeah.

 

[Mandon Knight]

Its simply a f**king mess and I couldn't hate it more if I tried.

 

[The Batman]

In my view, absolutely YES. For what the character is and stands for, and it's original concepts, yes, without a shadow of doubt.

Meh. The goofier, sillier Batman that B&R emulates was created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane themselves.

Much as people like to act as if silly Batman is less legit than dark Batman, the truth is, Batman's actual creators invented and endorsed that vision of the character.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

Absolutely not. Batman and Robin is a studio-sanctioned parody of the Batman mythos, and on those merits it hits every mark that its going for.

Contrast this with something like, Spider-Man 3, which is just an incredibly tedious and boring movie to sit through. Give me B&R any day of the week.