Is it true about the PS3 backwards compatibility?

[kainedamo]

I watched this clip here...

http://www.1pstart.com/ps3s-backward-compatibility-issues-revealed/

Is it true?? If so, its an utter disgrace. It actually makes your last gen games look like turd.

 

[Ice-man]

yes that is true, but a firmware update is now being looked into.

 

[Aiden]

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LaWlZ!

 

[Fenrir]

I watched this clip here...

http://www.1pstart.com/ps3s-backward-compatibility-issues-revealed/

Is it true?? If so, its an utter disgrace. It actually makes your last gen games look like turd.

Yes, it's true. All those Sony fanboys who had been consistently screaming about the PS3 having "superior backwards compatibility" can now kiss my ass. At least the Xbox games look much better running on the 360.

 

[Zenien]

Firmware updates will fix it (hopefully!), it looks like some sort of rushed upscalling stuff or something. Eitherway PS3 BC still is a better solution then 360 BC... but not by much.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Good thing everyone who has a PS3 has a PS2.

 

[Fenrir]

Eitherway PS3 BC still is a better solution then 360 BC.

Right now it isn't. No one in their right minds would play their PS and PS2 games on the PS3 only to have them looking worse than how they looked on their native platforms. "Better solution" my ass.

 

[L.A.]

Firmware updates will fix it, it looks like some sort of rushed upscalling stuff or something. Eitherway PS3 BC still is a better solution then 360 BC.

BC? Before Christ?

 

[Fran]

Firmware updates will fix it (hopefully!), it looks like some sort of rushed upscalling stuff or something. Eitherway PS3 BC still is a better solution then 360 BC... but not by much.

Well, I'd rather wait for them to fix my game to get ready for 360 BC than to get a craptacular, rushed version of BC for PS3.

 

[Zenien]

Well to be fair Sony is hopefully going to be working on it, and we don't know how much more BC Microsoft is going to add since Peter Moore has already said that Microsoft underpromised and overdelivered on BC compatibility way back like 7 months ago.

I haven't actually looked at the video yet, so well see... which game is it.

 

[lars573]

A bunch. A still form what I think is MGS2, and a cut scene from FFX with the game runnin onPS3 on the left of the screen and PS2 on the right.

But it appears that the PS3 doesn't upscale or filter the PS2 images. So 480P images look like crap on a 1080P screen.

 

[Spider-X]

yeah, it's true...but that video there makes it look much worse than it really is.

I was wondering if it was just my system...now i know.

But it really isn't that noticable. it doesn't take me out of the game.

 

[imdaly]

Well to be fair Sony is hopefully going to be working on it, and we don't know how much more BC Microsoft is going to add since Peter Moore has already said that Microsoft underpromised and overdelivered on BC compatibility way back like 7 months ago.

Well they DID just add something like 30-some games to the list a couple days ago, so I'd say it's continuing on.

 

[Aiden]

Firmware updates will fix it (hopefully!), it looks like some sort of rushed upscalling stuff or something. Eitherway PS3 BC still is a better solution then 360 BC... but not by much.

Rushed? They had a year's advantage over the 360 yet they still done a half assed job...

 

[Zenien]

Including the EE+GS isn't half assing it. SOme cleanup in the output just needs to be made, and really, Xbox games that are on the 360 aren't exactly perfect when they're added to BC.

 

[Fenrir]

Including the EE+GS isn't half assing it. SOme cleanup in the output just needs to be made, and really, Xbox games that are on the 360 aren't exactly perfect when they're added to BC.

They still look better than PS and PS2 games running on the PS3. Really Zenien, it's almost pathetic that every single Sony **** up is answered by you with the usual "Oh but MS didn't do any better" crap. As if the blunders of another company will somehow compensate for Sony's own mess.

 

[kainedamo]

But I thought Xbox games actually look better when played on the 360??

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

What is weird, if this is true, from what i´ve read, Sony wants to make PS1 and PS2 games downloadable from PS3network.
If that is true, isn´t that weird for them to look bad when played on it?
Does Sony want them games to be downloadable, but look like crap?
It doesn´t make sense, so, once again, if that rumour is true, Sony might fix it.

 

[Addendum]

But I thought Xbox games actually look better when played on the 360??

From what I've read, they do.

The only thing that's different with the 360 Backwards Compatibility is that different companies were used to make the graphics chip: NVIDIA for the Xbox and ATI for the 360.

There are various corporate laws in place that prohibit Microsoft from simply placing the graphics chip that NVIDIA designed in the 360.

 

[Zenien]

They still look better than PS and PS2 games running on the PS3.

At least they play, if a simple firmware update will fix it, then we'll probably see one considering the breakneck pace that Sony has been releasing firmware updates for the PS3 (AKA: Not half assed).

Really Zenien, it's almost pathetic that every single Sony **** up is answered by you with the usual "Oh but MS didn't do any better" crap.

Except I... don't...

As if the blunders of another company will somehow compensate for Sony's own mess.

Seems to work for the Xbots now doesn't it.

 

[Kritish]

This is why I got a 360 this generation.
I'll let sony try to convince me again when the PS4 comes out.

 

[Fenrir]

At least they play, if a simple firmware update will fix it, then we'll probably see one considering the breakneck pace that Sony has been releasing firmware updates for the PS3 (AKA: Not half assed).

Yes, they play...looking like crap. If I am a PS3 owner who paid $500 or above for this hunka junk only to get a dumbass "at least they play" answer for something that should have looked even better than it's native platform, then by all means Sony and their collective ****es can go **** themselves. Together.

Except I... don't...

Except you...do.

Seems to work for the Xbots now doesn't it.

I bet you didn't like that you own words came back to bite you in the ass. "Superior backwards compatibility"? Psh, yeah.

 

[Zenien]

Yes, they play...looking like crap. If I am a PS3 owner who paid $500 or above for this hunka junk only to get a dumbass "at least they play" answer for something that should have looked even better than it's native platform, then by all means Sony and their collective ****es can go **** themselves. Together.

Actually there's no precident that a legacy game running on new hardware should look better. The General expectation is that it plays then any major glitches are the 'failure' criteria for the expectation of a title working on the newer machine. At the end of the day it's better to have every PS2 game running with some minor glitches and looking uglier (in a manner that alledgedly can be fixed with a firmware update)then it is to have about 200 titles in your library having minor glitches looking marginally better thanks to a higher resolution.

If the BC issue is so easy to be fixed then it probably will be, hence no need to blow it totally out of proportion with sensationalism like calling the PS3 a peice of junk and using its price at every turn to undermine it.

Except you...do.

Nope.

I bet you didn't like that you own words came back to bite you in the ass. "Superior backwards compatibility"? Psh, yeah.

Using the PS2 hardware so every game plays with some glitches and looking uglier (that allegdgedly can be fixed with a firmware update) along with the company alledgedly working on full emulation so they can one day take out the EE/GS > Only a handful of titles working and looking cleaner thanks to resolution.

Obviously. We're talking about Backwards compatibility here.

You're really getting bent out of shape over this. Keep up your jihad if you want.

 

[Fenrir]

Actually there's no precident that a legacy game running on new hardware should look better. The General expectation is that it plays then any major glitches are the 'failure' criteria for the expectation of a title working on the newer machine. At the end of the day it's better to have every PS2 game running with some minor glitches and looking uglier (in a manner that alledgedly can be fixed with a firmware update)then it is to have about 200 titles in your library having minor glitches looking marginally better thanks to a higher resolution.

So you'd rather compromise great games looking uglier with having each and every single crap game in the PS and PS2 library? LOL.

If the BC issue is so easy to be fixed then it probably will be, hence no need to blow it totally out of proportion with sensationalism like calling the PS3 a peice of junk and using its price at every turn to undermine it.

Crapping on the PS3 because of it's extravagant price is a perfectly valid point and I know it causes you unbearable pain whenever someone bring it up (of course, why else would you be "responding" to me?)- right now, none of it's titles seem significantly superior to the 360's at least not enough to justify an extra 100-200 bucks (in fact, technically speaking a lot of them are inferior). Secondly, it can't even do the one thing people expected it would do completely right - backwards compatibility.

Nope.

Just to reiterate something that's already passed in this thread...

Typical argument against PS3: "The PS3's backwards compatibility sucks"
Typical Zenien response: "The 360's is worse"

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Using the PS2 hardware so every game plays with some glitches and looking uglier (that allegdgedly can be fixed with a firmware update) along with the company alledgedly working on full emulation so they can one day take out the EE/GS > Only a handful of titles working and looking cleaner thanks to resolution.

"Only a handful of titles working"? Yes, only in Zenien's bizarro land do 250 plus backwards title that includes almost every single hit game on the Xbox amount to "only a handful". You're really reaching now, sweetie.

Obviously. We're talking about Backwards compatibility here.

You're really getting bent out of shape over this. Keep up your jihad if you want.

Actually, this wouldn't have been such an issue if Sony ****es kept their trap shut about the 360's backwards compatibilty problems, in spite of knowing of the hardware complications in the console and not touting the PS3's "superior" backwards compatibility beforehand. Guess Sony really don't have a clue as to what they're doing when MS can get games looking better on a COMPLETELY different hardware using software emulation yet Sony can't do the same with their own hardware.

 

[Fenrir]

But I thought Xbox games actually look better when played on the 360??

Of course they do, especially when you're running them in 720p.