is the budget good enough to make an epic DB

[JP]

LOL.

Critical praise, fanbase approval, moderate success, and a sequel.. that's no evidence!

 

[TLH]

What evidence? Rotten Tomatoes and some random internet poll? lol

Oh, I'm sorry. Last I checked, using hundreds of critics and is a solid piece of evidence. Not to mention that you've done nothing but state your opinion and providing nothing to back it up.

Exactly what kind of evidence would you consider legitimate and convincing, huh?

 

[JoseMP]

I see no evidence. Critics are idiots in my eyes, fanbase means that it was good for them, that doesnt mean it was good for non fans. Sequel?, Alien Vs Predator 2 was a sequel to a crappy movie: (Aliens Vs Predator 1).

Anyways, this discussion should end before mods lock this thread.

 

[JP]

Those silly critics. Saying Iron Man is amazing and Elektra is crap. They're so wrong.

 

[Comicfan]

Wow like Rotten Tomatoes means anything. You really care what critics say dont you?. Most people ignore them. Because critics are idiots. Sorry for my expression.

76% from users?, probably those who liked it. Internet polls are not always correct. Maybe hellboy was loved there in the USA but nobody liked it down here, and I would bet to add all Latin America as well.

Yeah that movie sucked and was dumb.

Just for the record, I live in Colombia, and I haven´t meet anyone who haven´t liked HB

Even a close female friend of mine who is a hard core christian was at first confused with the idea of a demonic hero, but now she chan wait for the sequel since she saw the trailer

 

[Adam]

lol @ religion.

 

[Rikxiepoo]

Hey to put the whole Hellboy and Rotten Tomatoes stuff to rest and get back on topic:

Hellboy 2 is being made because Hellboy one was praised and because fans want a sequel. Hellboy 1 made back enough money and the DVD sales and stuff convinced the studio to do the sequel. Guillermo is pretty dedicated to this franchise too, so he obviously wanted to make a sequel.

And Rotten Tomatoes is reliable because it takes a lot of official reviews by official reviewers like Roger Ebert and such and just gives the movie a percentage depending on the number of good reviews vs bad reviews. Plus you can read the reviews given to the film on the site so if the percentage dsnt convince you the reviews will.

Anyways back to Dragonball...

The 100 million is plenty for some great special effects (FF may have sucked but its special effects were pretty good for 100 million).

 

[Humpty Dumpty]

Those silly critics. Saying Iron Man is amazing and Elektra is crap. They're so wrong.

I agree with the judgment about Elektra, but Iron Man wasn’t all that great. I’ve found that critical opinion is generally more accurate when it’s obvious a movie is completely abysmal but not when a movie is just basically functional. Iron Man is a functional movie and has wonderful special effects, but as filmmaking, I don’t see why so many make so much of it. It makes me think many of the critics were bribed, which doesn’t seem too far fetched given the tendencies of the entertainment industry observed in past scandals. As a music person, I can at least tell you with a good amount of confidence the score was terrible.

To me, the best predictor of whether a movie will be good or not is the reputations of the director and other key players in the filmmaking process, not critical opinion. For instance, if John Williams wrote the score, I already know the score is going to be good, even before I hear it. If Martin Scorsese is the director, then I know the movie is probably going to have been put together pretty well, even though Scorsese and I don’t always share the same tastes in subject matter. I can already tell you that Crystal Skull is going to be great because Steven Spielberg has established himself as one of today’s leading directors. I will even go so far as to say that it’s probably going to be better than Iron Man, despite Rotten Tomatoes not giving it as high of a mark.

 

[JP]

Well, that's where the misconception of Rotten tomatoes comes in. The average rating is about a 7-8/10. However since there are so many critics giving that rating, and all of which are considered positive, the percentage increases.

 

[Humpty Dumpty]

Well, that's where the misconception of Rotten tomatoes comes in. The average rating is about a 7-8/10. However since there are so many critics giving that rating, and all of which are considered positive, the percentage increases.

Even in the Metacritic system, which takes into account the specific rating of each review, I think Iron Man still received way too high of a score. People forget that critics are just a bunch of goofballs who were hired to write columns in newspapers, and as I said before, they are probably not always even so honest about their opinions either.

Here's another good comparison where I think critical opinion is way off: Minority Report and Donnie Darko, which are both movies concerned with presenting their narratives in a nonlinear fashion. Both likewise received critical acclaim, though Donnie Darko received just a bit more than Minority Report. Donnie Darko is a convoluted mess of a movie whose plot can only be deciphered properly by reading some articles written by Richard Kelly, the film's director, on the internet (I'm not kidding). The overall experience one gets from the movie isn't that outstanding either. Minority Report, on the other hand, is expertly directed by Spielberg, and its plot is ingeniously constructed, having been based on a short story by Philip Dick, an author who was once derided for his association with the science-fiction genre but is now, in retrospect, coming to be regarded as one of the giants of recent literature for the profound philosophical messages communicated in his best work.

 

[JP]

Well, I don't look at the ratings like that. I see 93% FOR Iron Man and I think "Wow, a lot of people liked that movie". I don't, however, think "Wow, that filming is rated higher than such and such film, meaning it must be a better film."

That just isn't true and shouldn't be looked at that way.