Is the USA a pseudo-fascist state? (Police constantly abusing people)

[Alex_Spider]

Where I live, we already have that. AND I believe in life after death!

Winning!t:

Canadian? Yeah, but you still pay for health care in some form through your taxes maybe and a percentage of your income It isn't totally free. I could be wrong though.

 

[Alex_Spider]

I like you, even though we disagree.

Oh, come on we don't disagree that much. Hey, I am a big fan of the Fleischer Superman t:

 

[DeadPresident]

Quote from movie, Inception -

That quote indicates why it's so difficult to get anyone to change their behavior. An idea already has taken hold - The wrong one.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

Canadian? Yeah, but you still pay for health care in some form through your taxes maybe and a percentage of your income It isn't totally free. I could be wrong though.

Not Canadat: yeah, but it's free enough even though some of the hospitals are horrible

Oh, come on we don't disagree that much. Hey, I am a big fan of the Fleischer Superman t:

Good! People who don't like Fleischer's Superman (or Batman: The Animated Series) are soulless!

 

[Alex_Spider]

That quote indicates why it's so difficult to get anyone to change their behavior. An idea already has taken hold - The wrong one.

You know there is hope when men like in this video are supporting the idea of a unified world living in harmony with nature.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCz-AMcb8WY

Good! People who don't like Fleischer's Superman (or Batman: The Animated Series) are soulless!

Actually I consider the Fleischer Superman to be the definitive version and superior to the newer TAS and live action depictions of him.

 

[Teelie]

I shouldn't, but I'll entertain you, since I'm not arguing to be a prick or because I subjectively believe I'm right or out of any sense of ego. Objectively, you can't compare something like a harmless form of physical exertion to the concept of a show like Jerry Springer or Honey Boo-Boo where we consume, ridicule and perpetuate dangerous and maladaptive behaviours that masquerade as entertainment. We watch talk shows exploiting someone else's pain, televise court proceedings while the public bays for someone's blood and discuss wars from our arm chairs like they're drawings in a kid's sketchbook. In reality, how far are we really from the savages watching public hangings and behaving like philistines?

Some of the most banal, everyday things that we've come to accept so passively are literally the things pulling society apart.

And yet you can't see anything besides your own determination that television is all around bad. You selectively choose the worst examples and cite it as proof that television has no value.

I can say what redeeming value does twerking have? Or any number of other dances that can be considered offensive. Saying that television offers nothing but Jerry Springer and faux reality and bad news is easily countered with shows that actually teach and educate or are informative in some other way.

So your example fails to impress me.

 

[DeadPresident]

And yet you can't see anything besides your own determination that television is all around bad. You selectively choose the worst examples and cite it as proof that television has no value.

I can say what redeeming value does twerking have? Or any number of other dances that can be considered offensive. Saying that television offers nothing but Jerry Springer and faux reality and bad news is easily countered with shows that actually teach and educate or are informative in some other way.

So your example fails to impress me.

As you were man, not trying to convince anyone of anything. You definitely showed me

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

Honey Boo-Boo is awesome. It's clearly fake...Sugar Bear is probably one of the richest guys in America.

 

[Alex_Spider]

And yet you can't see anything besides your own determination that television is all around bad. You selectively choose the worst examples and cite it as proof that television has no value.

I can say what redeeming value does twerking have? Or any number of other dances that can be considered offensive. Saying that television offers nothing but Jerry Springer and faux reality and bad news is easily countered with shows that actually teach and educate or are informative in some other way.

So your example fails to impress me.

Of course tv has some quality and informative programs like nature documentaries and science based stuff. Thing is, why pay mega station networks and give them a motive to exist when you can find everything you want in the internet for free.
Not to mention that tv is a tool that gets easily manipulated by the political status quo to serve its agenda and distract the public.

 

[Teelie]

As you were man, not trying to convince anyone of anything. You definitely showed me

Maybe I should have used books instead? A medium full of useless drivel (Twilight) and stuff of deep meaning (Shakespeare) to prove my point.

Television is just an easy scapegoat to point at because you fall in line with that kind of thinking.

 

[Snow Queen]

Of course tv has some quality and informative programs like nature documentaries and science based stuff. Thing is, why pay mega station networks and give them a motive to exist when you can find everything you want in the internet for free.
Not to mention that tv is a tool that gets easily manipulated by the political status quo to serve its agenda and distract the public.

Okay, so if everyone were to watch them online, then the shows will get cancelled because they're losing money because everyone's just watching them for free.

 

[Alex_Spider]

Okay, so if everyone were to watch them online, then the shows will get cancelled because they're losing money because everyone's just watching them for free.

You got a point t:
Still, there are a ton of non profit movies and documentaries that get released in the web for free and people are making all kinds of videos today in the blink of an eye thanks to the advancement of the camera devices and video editing software.
There is also a huge library with thousand of stuff that got released in tv prior and is available online now.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

But I want real Batman movies, not fan films

 

[Alex_Spider]

But I want real Batman movies, not fan films

Well that's a price I am willing to pay
Actually, I have lost a bit my interest on the Hollywood movie spectacle. Most movies that get released are disappointment after disappointment.
Hey, don't loose hope though. I am sure in some years, thanks to the advancement of computers and cgi software, we will be able to produce our own photorealistic movies, as if they were done by professional filmmakers with real looking actors and sets. Well, maybe not 100% photorealistic, but still

 

[MrsKent26]

Well, if people keep talking about those things through the internet the sooner it will happen a reality and I don't care if I am not alive until then. I'd like to grow old and die thinking that I contributed for a better world for our children and grand children.



There was a day when societies were conditioned to burn alive other people for witchcraft and that was a normality and they thought that would never change.
Or in ancient Rome with the gladiators and the christians being fed to the lions.
The same applies to today's world. Things seem impossible to change, but once an idea is expanded and talked about then change is a mathematical certainty.

You're clearly very passionate about this and there's nothing wrong with that, but my consumerism doesn't bother me. I'm greedy, materialistic and unconcerned. But...I want to believe in something better. I'm just lazy for the time being and somewhat carnivorous.

 

[Alex_Spider]

You're clearly very passionate about this and there's nothing wrong with that, but my consumerism doesn't bother me. I'm greedy, materialistic and unconcerned. But...I want to believe in something better. I'm just lazy for the time being and somewhat carnivorous.

Well, you should know that consumerism affects our environment in negative ways and depletes Earth's resources. I mean, how in the world do we expect to consume infinitely in a planet with finite resources?

It is not enough to believe in something better. You got to take some action towards it and be more informed about the repercussions that our modern lifestyle has in the world around us.

As a great movie line says: "it's not who i am underneath but what i do that defines me"

 

[MrsKent26]

Well, you should know that consumerism affects our environment in negative ways and depletes Earth's resources. I mean, how in the world are we except to consume infinitely in a planet with finite resources?

It is not enough to believe in something better. You got to take some action towards it and be more informed about the repercussions that our modern lifestyle has in the world around us.

As a great movie line says: "it's not who i am underneath but what i do that defines me"

I don't know what to say. Clearly, some folks are more motivated than me. I'm kind of a pessimist. It seems whenever I try to change anything or make a stink about something I believe is wrong, it goes nowhere and just leads to arguing. Sometimes I'm simply too lazy to argue.

 

[Alex_Spider]

I don't know what to say. Clearly, some folks are more motivated than me. I'm kind of a pessimist. It seems whenever I try to change anything or make a stink about something I believe is wrong, it goes nowhere and just leads to arguing. Sometimes I'm simply too lazy to argue.

I think you will find very interesting these videos and might help you get a better picture about what's really going on. Cheers

Imagine A World Without Money
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1CVyUlFkyI

Visionary and self-taught architect, Jacques Fresco explains his ideal world that incorporates a resource-based system. No money, or other form of bartering exchange. A world without money is more than just imagination; it is very possible. Jacque Fresco believes if we decide to do this today, all things about this world can be achieved within only 10 years!

Look at our world and all the unnecessary suffering at the hands of the monetary system. Money is a flawed system that is holding humanity back. Just watch this. I'm sure you will all agree.

Paradise or Oblivion
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KphWsnhZ4Ag

This video presentation advocates a new socio-economic system, which is updated to present-day knowledge, featuring the life-long work of Social Engineer, Futurist, Inventor and Industrial Designer Jacque Fresco, which he calls a Resource-Based Economy. This documentary details the root causes of the systemic value disorders and detrimental symptoms caused by our current established system. The film details the need to outgrow the dated and inefficient methods of politics, law, business, or any other "establishment" notions of human affairs, and use the methods of science, combined with high technology, to provide for the needs of all the world's people. It is not based on the opinions of the political and financial elite or on illusionary so-called democracies, but on maintaining a dynamic equilibrium with the planet that could ultimately provide abundance for all people.



Paradise or Oblivion, by The Venus Project, introduces the viewer to a more appropriate value system that would be required to enable this caring and holistic approach to benefit human civilization. This alternative surpasses the need for a monetary-based, controlled, and scarcity-oriented environment, which we find ourselves in today.

Earthlings - Full length documentary (multi-subtitles)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce4DJh-L7Ys

EARTHLINGS is the single most powerful and informative documentary about society's tragic and unforgivable use of nonhuman animals, narrated by Joaquin Phoenix with soundtrack by Moby. Directed by Shaun Monson, this multi-award winning film by Nation Earth is a must-see for anyone who cares about nonhuman animals or wishes to make the world a better place.

101 Reasons to Go Vegan
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-F8whzJfJY

 

[Teelie]

Something to consider: Meat consumption is down in the United States but skyrocketing in China. Maybe you should learn Chinese and start there?

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

Read somewhere that we should stop eating tomatoes etc. Because they have feelings. Not making this up.

 

[Alex_Spider]

Something to consider: Meat consumption is down in the United States but skyrocketing in China. Maybe you should learn Chinese and start there?

The US has a great potential to reach a high level of non meat eaters, contrary to Chinese people americans are more open to revolutionary ideas. One of the things I loved when I was in NY last year was the great number of vegan food chains that is growing steadily and the options it offers for some healthy dietary choices. I wish I lived there just for that .

Read somewhere that we should stop eating tomatoes etc. Because they have feelings. Not making this up.

Feelings? lol That's a bit of a stretch. Tomatoes just as all fruit, is what nature produces for us, a nutritious food without a mother and a father, intestine, blood, flesh, brain etc, just precious juices that eventually will fall off the tree and will rot anyways if we don't consume them.

 

[NickNitro]

I think its about time.....goodbye my friends

 

[MrsKent26]

I think you will find very interesting these videos and might help you get a better picture about what's really going on. Cheers

Imagine A World Without Money
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1CVyUlFkyI


Paradise or Oblivion
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KphWsnhZ4Ag


Earthlings - Full length documentary (multi-subtitles)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce4DJh-L7Ys


101 Reasons to Go Vegan
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-F8whzJfJY

Those were very interesting, but I have to admit that it's mostly academic interest. I'm not motivated to change just yet and am not much of an idealist. But, your time wasn't wasted because I did watch them at least.

Read somewhere that we should stop eating tomatoes etc. Because they have feelings. Not making this up.

Huh?

 

[Senator Pleasury]

Wow. They shouldn't have mentioned they found one line of cocaine in the dressing rooms.

 

[Alex_Spider]

Those were very interesting, but I have to admit that it's mostly academic interest. I'm not motivated to change just yet and am not much of an idealist. But, your time wasn't wasted because I did watch them at least.

That's a good start