Is There Anything Wrong With BTAS?

[Hellstormer]

Honestly? I've been getting to see episodes more frequently on Jetix (besides the DVDs) and honestly there's nothing I can find wrong with BTAS. The only problem I've ever noticed is sometimes the episodes were grainy but that's outside their power and BT has said he liked to keep the grain for nastalgia. Does anyone have any big griefs with the show.

TNBA does not apply to this since I know there are some people who were not pleased with that show.

 

[Saved]

I love BTAS. Aside from a few odd episodes (which turned out well in the end anyway), I find no faults either.

 

[DeGenerate10]

I just wish the episodes were more connected some how. Like every episode was random. There was no sense of series.

 

[Hellstormer]

Yea, but that's how comics started so it makes sense to not screw with the formula.

 

[Saved]

Yeah, I see what you mean by that. The season finale's were never anything like, "Wow! What will happen next?!" But, that's not the format of the show.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

I would say a lot of the first episodes were kiddy to the point of pure cheesiness ("I've Got Batman in My Basement," for example). Other then that, yeah, I'd say it was an extremely well-crafted series from most of the beginning all the way through to Gotham Knights.

 

[Saved]

Well, Batman fighting penguin with a screw driver was...depressingly sad. But the majority of first season episodes were still very good. It's, like I said earlier, just that a few episodes here and there were odd.

 

[DeGenerate10]

Yeah, I see what you mean by that. The season finale's were never anything like, "Wow! What will happen next?!" But, that's not the format of the show.

I know but I think it would've been better if there was some continuality (SP?) to it.

 

[Saved]

I know but I think it would've been better if there was some continuality (SP?) to it.

Like JLU, JL, or even Superman TAS at times.

 

[Hellstormer]

I know but I think it would've been better if there was some continuality (SP?) to it.

Continuity. And I agree. That's one thing I don't like about watching the show and the only aspect some of the other Timm shows have over Batman.

On the other hand, it also makes it nice when you're going back because you don't need to start at a specific spot. Plus during JLU I started getting tired of the constant overall arc. It got to be a bit grinding.

 

[javi1024]

originally they didn't start with any form of continuity, but then i'd say after 10-15 episodes you began to see a serial approach. they'd acknowledge in later episodes Poison Ivy dated and tried to kill Harvey Dent in her first episode. Batman fights the Penguin in one episode and like 3 episodes later he reads the Penguin has been released from prison and is seen again a couple episodes later. and Batman's entire relationship with Talia runs very much like a comic book.

other than having stories i didn't care for (the man in the sewers kidnapping children, Bruce ending up working in a mine for example) the show was damn near flawless. the only thing i can think of now was the fight scene animation was usually limited compared to what we see today, and i preferred the look of the show before The New Batman Adventures season.

 

[Two-Face]

I love this show, it brings back memories from my childhood.

Two-Face was done justice next to Eckhart's

 

[Tree27]

I worship Bruce Timm, TAS is great, don't feel bad for loving it.

100% honest; my first memmory EVER is of the TAS Joker standing on the top of the moddel train in Mask of the Phantasm, heh.

 

[jabbatheridge]

The only thing wrong with BTAS is they cancelled it and it's not still on the air, other than that it's perfect IMHO.

 

[C. W. Saturn]

Nothing wrong, by far the best Batman representation outside the comics and actually far superior to the things that happened IN the comics at that time. And so did the comic book spin-off "Batman Adventures". What I miss: more outstanding episodes and some villains like The Spook (would've fit perfectly).

 

[GamerSlyRatchet]

It's only flaw: being perfect.t:

Really, though. The only flaws this show had were some forgettable episodes, and sometimes, the animation was too clunky and the character's designs sometimes were off. Otherwise, it was perfect, and certainly the best Batman series yet.

 

[Frontier]

The only flaw I ever found in B:TAS was the limits on how far they could go into the adult world. The level of violence they could show, the words they could use, and such. They could not say that Joker killed someone, even if it was evident. They just had to gloss over it really. Same with blood. Mask of the Phantasm was a great experience for that whole group because it finally gave them the chance to kill people, and to show some blood. To be a little more real.

Honestly, though, when the only flaw of a show is that it has to be appropriate for all edges content wise, and yet it still manages to be such an adult show and still appeal to kids... I mean... that's just not a problem at all. The show was pure spun gold, IMHO. Even the rare "bad" episodes are more enjoyable to me than a lot of other Batman incarnations.

Take "I've Got Batman in My Basement" an episode many fans lament, but which I have to admit, I enjoy more so than the Burton films, the Schumacher Films, the Adam West crap, or the 2000's "The Batman" animated series.

I'll take a bad episode of BTAS over a good episode of a lot of other shows any day.

 

[Hellstormer]

So everyone agrees that the show is overall perfect, now can someone explain to me why other kid shows can't be like this? Everytime I watch a kid show (now even more so) it always seems like they're talking down to me and my cousin (8 years) actually agrees. I think Avatar's the only show that comes close to the BTAS for the new generation.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I would say NO, I loved almost every episode I ever saw!

 

[I-T-B]

So everyone agrees that the show is overall perfect, now can someone explain to me why other kid shows can't be like this? Everytime I watch a kid show (now even more so) it always seems like they're talking down to me and my cousin (8 years) actually agrees. I think Avatar's the only show that comes close to the BTAS for the new generation.

There's a LOT more censorship today than there was back in the early nineties, and a lot more studio interference. Take The Batman, for example. For starters, the violence had to be toned down, and the only type of gunfire that can be used is of the laser variety, and even that must be used sparingly. In addition, Warner Brothers thinks of the program as a marketing vehicle. That's why The Batman changes his suit more often than previous incarnations, although in some cases (like his lead-lined suit when battling Phosphorous) it makes sense. Not to mention characters like Gordon, Lucius, and Alfred. Older men with little input into the action aren't deemed kid-friendly characters, they're not somebody that WB thinks will sell well as an action figure. Hence the slow phasing out these characters experience as the series went on.

So, while I still enjoy The Batman, it was hampered by censorship B:TAS didn't have to contend with. Now, I know that less restrictions isn't the ONLY reason B:TAS was so good. It had brilliant minds like Timm, Dini, Radomski, etc. working behind the scenes, and the show is something truly special. But people need to realize when they're criticising modern cartoons, ESPECIALLY Saturday morning cartoons, that creators these days already have several strikes against them. Of course, the fact that a lot of hacks are working on cartoons these days doesn't help things either, but I digress...

 

[BubbaGump]

Is there anything wrong with BTAS?

Yes. Plenty. Inconsistent animation, some episodes with bad writing, chunky character designs, etc. But would I change a thing? Nevah! The show that we love is the show that it IS.

 

[Gilpesh]

Is there anything wrong with BTAS?

Yes. Plenty. Inconsistent animation, some episodes with bad writing, chunky character designs, etc. But would I change a thing? Nevah! The show that we love is the show that it IS.

Yeah, when I was thinking of picking up a season or two... looking at the back of the box made me wonder if it was going to stand up or not. And those pictures they picked weren't the best to prove it.

 

[Hellstormer]

There's a LOT more censorship today than there was back in the early nineties, and a lot more studio interference. Take The Batman, for example. For starters, the violence had to be toned down, and the only type of gunfire that can be used is of the laser variety, and even that must be used sparingly. In addition, Warner Brothers thinks of the program as a marketing vehicle. That's why The Batman changes his suit more often than previous incarnations, although in some cases (like his lead-lined suit when battling Phosphorous) it makes sense. Not to mention characters like Gordon, Lucius, and Alfred. Older men with little input into the action aren't deemed kid-friendly characters, they're not somebody that WB thinks will sell well as an action figure. Hence the slow phasing out these characters experience as the series went on.

I actually liked their interpretation of Gordon. It was nice to see a younger Gordon. Mine you I only saw a handful of his episodes. The costumes got a bit excessive. I remember that the reason for making Batman Beyond was for a toy line and it was great.

The BTAS interpretation of Gordon, though. That's legendary. Did Timm base that design off the comics or did the comics get it from BTAS? Cause it always seems like the comics got it from BTAS. In fact, the whole GCPD was taken from that show, whether they edited characters or brought in the new ones.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Its Batman: The Animated Series...





Nuff' said!!!!

 

[The Joker]

Of course there are some things wrong with BTAS. Nothing is perfect.

It had some awful episodes like I've got Batman in my basement, Critters, and The Last Laugh. There was no real sense of continuity in the series.

It had it's faults, but they were minor ones, and didn't prevent the show from being awesome.