Is Tim Drake a genuis?

[SouLeSS]

I mean seriously, he's only what, 15ish and he's making semi-sucessful attempts at cloning Conner?

The dudes not even done with highschool and he's trying to clone. Thats a bit out of the norm for anyone if you ask me.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

he's 17 now and he's a prodigy. and he hasnthad any semi-sucess with the cloning at all.

 

[SouLeSS]

He's still got the whole "robin-cave" thing going on though.

 

[yenaled]

Yes he is, he has Batman level smarts at the least.

 

[drastic_quench]

A genius would've tapped Rose Wilson - twice.

 

[Anubis]

But a smart man would have known that that chick is more trouble than she's worth.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

^^^ doesnt stop batman from getting with catwoman.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Ehhh... I'll say Tim's extremely gifted. But cloning isn't exactly something new there. And there's a GOOD chance Batman has tons o' info on that stuff. All he has to do is put together the proven information, especially since he knew Kon's lineage.

 

[Darthphere]

^^^ doesnt stop batman from getting with catwoman.

Shes worth the trouble.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Shes worth the trouble.

Actually, a genius is considered "crazy". Batman's willing to date Catwoman. That's crazy.

Tim, a teenage boy with raging sexual hormones, won't even THINK about going for it with a naked girl on top of him already kissing him? Maybe that's crazy too. Or maybe that just kind of insinuates into his already odd obsession with Superboy?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Shes worth the trouble.

Actually, a genius is considered "crazy". Batman's willing to date Catwoman. That's crazy.

Tim, a teenage boy with raging sexual hormones, won't even THINK about going for it with a naked girl on top of him already kissing him? Maybe that's crazy too. Or maybe that just kind of insinuates into his already odd obsession with Superboy?

 

[Spectre722]

i don't care if his cloning has been unsuccessful so far, for a 17 year old kid to even understand what he needs to clone somebody is impressive.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

i don't care if his cloning has been unsuccessful so far, for a 17 year old kid to even understand what he needs to clone somebody is impressive.

The information is already there for him.

A middle school drop out could make Killer Mustard Gas if the instructions were right in front of him and the supplies provided.

I'm not saying Tim's not smart. He's extremely smart. Batman even said he'll be a way better detective than he is one day. I'm just not going to give a kid credit where credit isn't really due I feel.

 

[Darthphere]

The information is already there for him.

A middle school drop out could make Killer Mustard Gas if the instructions were right in front of him and the supplies provided.

I'm not saying Tim's not smart. He's extremely smart. Batman even said he'll be a way better detective than he is one day. I'm just not going to give a kid credit where credit isn't really due I feel.

Funny thing is, its so easy to clone people by your perception right though the Brain until recently hadnt been able to do it.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Funny thing is, its so easy to clone people by your perception right though the Brain until recently hadnt been able to do it.

I...actually don't understand what you're trying to say, but it sounds like you're saying he couldn't do it up until now. To which, I'll say that he hasn't had a heavy desire to go around cloning his lost friends up until now.

 

[Darthphere]

I...actually don't understand what you're trying to say, but it sounds like you're saying he couldn't do it up until now. To which, I'll say that he hasn't had a heavy desire to go around cloning his lost friends up until now.

Ummm OYL no one has been able to do it, The Brain only was able to complete it recently, but youre saying its as easy as opening up a copy of CLoning for Dummies, apparently it isnt.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Ummm OYL no one has been able to do it, The Brain only was able to complete it recently, but youre saying its as easy as opening up a copy of CLoning for Dummies, apparently it isnt.

Cloning had been done before. Hence, how Kon-El came around the first time. So the info was a bit on the old side on how to do it. And, like I said, Batman would most likely have this kind of information on hand for review. Seeing how Batman would be the type to want to know it for whatever crazy reason Batman would. But really, people don't clone like crazy in the DCU. So really, it's just not rampid, so the ability to clone is probably a lot more common than one would think. That and I believe Lex was utilizing a cloned body. But with that one, I may be wrong.

And really OYL, just because it seems like nobody has been able to do it doesn't make Tim the new top geneticist of all Earth just because he's the first one to try it since then.

 

[DGrayson]

Yeah a teenager who is trying to clone someone and has all the resources tod o it it's a little over the top. Plus the fact that people always say how smart he is or will be makes him such a difficult character to relate to.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Yeah a teenager who is trying to clone someone and has all the resources tod o it it's a little over the top. Plus the fact that people always say how smart he is or will be makes him such a difficult character to relate to.

That part doesn't bother me. I could easily see a smart kid grasping several parts about the genetics, or even all of it really. Just not him. He's an awesome detective. Pretty much the best. But just... he's not an awesome geneticist.

 

[crazy monkey]

Ummm OYL no one has been able to do it, The Brain only was able to complete it recently

Do you mean this Brain?

'Cause, that episode was the best, when The Brain tried to clone Superboy as his personal minion, but since he was a clone of a clone the DNA was degraded and the only thing 'Super' about him was his teenage angst and moodiness (and he looked like a caricature of Tom Welling, LOL!) and The Brain can't take it so he ships him off to Military school. Then Pinky wanted a super-clone of his own, so he cloned Bat-Mite and names him Bat-Mite Forever and they went around saying "Narf!" in unison at everything, annoying the hell out of the Brain, who gets sick of being surrounded by all the stupidity and tries to clone himself as his new sidekick. But Pinky and Bat-Mite Forever are practicing their Irish step-dancing in the lab and screw up the experiment and the clone turns out to be Bizzaro-Brain! And Pinky and Bat-Mite Forvever think his Bizzaro speak is hilarious, so they all start talking in Bizzaro-speak and The Brain snaps and buys a gun and tries to shoot Pinky but Bat-Mite Forever takes the bullet for him, and then Brain realizes what he's become and shoots himself in the face. Then the episode ends with Pinky asking Bizzaro-Brain, "So, Bizzaro-Brain, what are they not going to do this morning?" and Bizzaro-Brain goes, "Same thing they never do every morning, Pinky -- not try to take over the world!"

Classic. It wasn't recent, though. That show is pretty old.

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[Harlekin]

I like how people usually harp on the whole Robin-cloning-Superboy-thing for giving Robin smarts he shouldn't have. Did we all read the bit where's he already failed about a hundred times, and it's a computer doing the work for him?

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

^^exactly. he's not doing much of anything, the computer is.

 

[Citizen56]

Eh, If he was that smart, he would have chucked Kon's body in the Lazurus pit already.

jk.

 

[Darthphere]

I like how people usually harp on the whole Robin-cloning-Superboy-thing for giving Robin smarts he shouldn't have. Did we all read the bit where's he already failed about a hundred times, and it's a computer doing the work for him?

Yeah, though I assume its a lot more complicated than push big red button to begin.

 

[Tropico]

Funny thing is, its so easy to clone people by your perception right though the Brain until recently hadnt been able to do it.

Bizarro is a clone.
Cadmus has had success with clones for years.
Luthor is currently in a cloned body (unless that was retconned).
The Guardian (not the 7 Soldiers one) is a clone.
The (current) Newsboy Legion are clones of a group of scientists that work for Cadmus.
Kon-El was a clone.
Brain mentioned that they've been providing clones as part of the weaponry people have ordered from them for years. Granted, the clones are unstable and decay, but they ARE still clones like the Jay Garrick one.

Cloning has been around for years and is still around. What we're apparently lead to believe is that now that apparently Cadmus is non-existant (apart from the abandoned labs) no one knows how to make STABLE clones, but cloning is still possible.

In regards to Tim, I think that he's smarter than the average kid his age. I don't know if it's enough to say that he's a genius. Maybe he's very focused and that's what makes him appear to be a genius. In regards to his operating cloning machinery....doesn't anyone realize that he already had it when TT OYL started and that we don't know where he got it or who gave it to him? Could it be he's keeping it secret because someone he said he wouldn't work with again took his words back and is helping him? I don't know, food for thought.