Okay, yes, I know... this should have been placed in the IC thread. But since that thread attempts to discuss the current events of IC and can often turn into a mess of unrelated conversations, I figured it wouldn't hurt TOO much to start a new thread for this.
Since IC is nearly coming to a close, and most of it's "big secrets" have been revealed, I was just curious what parts everybody thought were the "highlights" and the "low points" of the series. All in all, I think it's been pretty good... there have definitely been some problems (most likely the result of re-writes and last minute changes) but its certainly kept a good bit of us guessing and discussing and eagerly anticipating the next installment, and I think that says a lot about the story.
Some of my favorite moments were:
1. Batman's breakdown in IC # 3. Often, Batman is portrayed as emotionless and cold... and I think he has to be at times because his life is his work. Hence the reason he has such trouble establishing personal relationships. So when his humanity DOES creep in, it can be a very powerful moment. I think anyone who has pulled a 13 hour day at work can relate to feeling the same way... just wanting to throw in the towel because you can't take it anymore. This was very well done, I thought.
2. Black Adam killing Psycho Pirate. By far, the most badass and appropriate death scene I think I've EVER seen in a comic book. Sometimes, a villain needs to die. Someone like Psycho Pirate simply will never stop doing what he does because he can't... so there's pretty much only one solution. I loved when Barry beat him to a pulp in COIE... but the way Adam took him out even surpassed that.
3. Villains United... the whole damned series. This mini was so good, I didn't want it to end. I wasn't sure about it at first, but after issue #2, I was hooked and it just kept getting better as the series went on. Catman is now one of my favorite characters... I can't wait for the VU special and the Secret Six series. Gail Simone rocks my world.
Now... things I didn't like...
1. Alex and Superboy Prime being turned into villains. This was a bold twist to the story, I'll give them that. And the two of them are certainly powerful enough to be a genuine threat... but I just felt like it was a bit of a cop-out on DC's part. They were heroes in COIE... and I just feel like Didio and Johns were like, "Well, we haven't seen them in 20 years... no one really cares... let's turn them evil (sort of ) and have them try to destroy the universe." It wreaks of the whole Parallax thing, only I think it's a little worse because at least with Parallax and Zero Hour, we saw more of a progression of Hal turning to the dark side. This was just kinda like, BOOM, they're the villains. By the way, they've been f**king things up all year, we just didn't allude to it at all (making me think that maybe there was something else going on originally that DC decided to nix at the last minute and go with this idea instead).
2. Jason Todd's return. I don't mind that he's back. I don't even mind the whole 'Superboy punching the wall of reality" thing. I just don't like the two being put together. I really, REALLY wanted a good, mind-blowing explanation as to why Todd was still alive... and for a brief time I thought we were going to get it. We didn't, at least not in my opinion. It wasn't as horrible as some people made it out to be, but it really wasn't very good either.
Okay, I'll shut up now. Your opinions?
Since IC is nearly coming to a close, and most of it's "big secrets" have been revealed, I was just curious what parts everybody thought were the "highlights" and the "low points" of the series. All in all, I think it's been pretty good... there have definitely been some problems (most likely the result of re-writes and last minute changes) but its certainly kept a good bit of us guessing and discussing and eagerly anticipating the next installment, and I think that says a lot about the story.
Some of my favorite moments were:
1. Batman's breakdown in IC # 3. Often, Batman is portrayed as emotionless and cold... and I think he has to be at times because his life is his work. Hence the reason he has such trouble establishing personal relationships. So when his humanity DOES creep in, it can be a very powerful moment. I think anyone who has pulled a 13 hour day at work can relate to feeling the same way... just wanting to throw in the towel because you can't take it anymore. This was very well done, I thought.
2. Black Adam killing Psycho Pirate. By far, the most badass and appropriate death scene I think I've EVER seen in a comic book. Sometimes, a villain needs to die. Someone like Psycho Pirate simply will never stop doing what he does because he can't... so there's pretty much only one solution. I loved when Barry beat him to a pulp in COIE... but the way Adam took him out even surpassed that.
3. Villains United... the whole damned series. This mini was so good, I didn't want it to end. I wasn't sure about it at first, but after issue #2, I was hooked and it just kept getting better as the series went on. Catman is now one of my favorite characters... I can't wait for the VU special and the Secret Six series. Gail Simone rocks my world.
Now... things I didn't like...
1. Alex and Superboy Prime being turned into villains. This was a bold twist to the story, I'll give them that. And the two of them are certainly powerful enough to be a genuine threat... but I just felt like it was a bit of a cop-out on DC's part. They were heroes in COIE... and I just feel like Didio and Johns were like, "Well, we haven't seen them in 20 years... no one really cares... let's turn them evil (sort of ) and have them try to destroy the universe." It wreaks of the whole Parallax thing, only I think it's a little worse because at least with Parallax and Zero Hour, we saw more of a progression of Hal turning to the dark side. This was just kinda like, BOOM, they're the villains. By the way, they've been f**king things up all year, we just didn't allude to it at all (making me think that maybe there was something else going on originally that DC decided to nix at the last minute and go with this idea instead).
2. Jason Todd's return. I don't mind that he's back. I don't even mind the whole 'Superboy punching the wall of reality" thing. I just don't like the two being put together. I really, REALLY wanted a good, mind-blowing explanation as to why Todd was still alive... and for a brief time I thought we were going to get it. We didn't, at least not in my opinion. It wasn't as horrible as some people made it out to be, but it really wasn't very good either.
Okay, I'll shut up now. Your opinions?
