Is "white boy" a racial slur?

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This was on the front page of the Chicago Sun-Times today. I do agree with her to an extent.
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Is 'white boy' a slur? It sure isn't a compliment

July 20, 2006

BY MARY MITCHELL SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

Is "white boy" a racial slur? Judging from some of the debates that have occurred over the use of "white boy" by African Americans, I'd say the description is certainly heading in that direction. Until Roland Burris described his field of opponents as "unqualified white boys" during his Democratic primary race for governor in 1998, he was the front-runner. A day after making those comments before a predominantly black audience, Burris' political aspirations took a dive.

Despite the fact that he has always been labeled as "not black enough" for some black voters, white voters were absolutely outraged by his use of "white boy."

I'm bringing this subject up because of what happened to Ryan Rusch, the 14-year-old Beverly boy who was robbed and badly beaten, allegedly by three black youths. Rusch, who suffers from a heart defect, is in serious condition at an area hospital. He was taken from the scene of the crime -- a neighborhood park -- in an ambulance.

Two 16-year-old boys have been charged with aggravated battery and robbery. And a 17-year-old, Micha Eatman, was charged with one count of robbery and aggravated battery. Eatman is in jail on a $300,000 bond.

One of the juveniles apparently told police that Rusch was beaten and robbed because he was a "goofy-looking white boy," and police are continuing to investigate the incident as a "hate crime."

So far, the Cook County state's attorney's office has rejected charging the teens with a hate crime. Apparently, prosecutors are operating on the belief that the attack was motivated by robbery rather than hate.

But charging the teens with a hate crime reflects a community's outrage over intolerance, and I believe it has to be considered whenever race, gender, ethnicity and sexual orientation appear to be a motivation.

Slur or insensitive description?

In this instance, because the suspects are already charged with felonies, designating the attack as a hate crime wouldn't ratchet up the class of the crime. It would, however, give a judge more leeway in sentencing and would force these teens to deal with the underlying motivation for their purported attack.

It would also go a long way toward dispelling the perception that there is a double standard when it comes to police charging someone with a hate crime.

For example, there was little doubt that hate was the motivation when black youth Lenard Clark was brutally beaten in Bridgeport because the neighborhood already had the reputation of being hostile to blacks.

But the motivation wasn't as clear when Keith P. Radloff was tracked down and murdered by Matthew Givens, a black bicycle messenger with whom Radloff had had a confrontation a day earlier.

It also wasn't clear when Roy Trumblay, a 56-year-old White Sox fan, was beaten to death by 19-year-old Thomas D. Cooper, a black man who was determined to be mentally ill.

That's why figuring out whether "white boy" is a slur or just an insensitive or inappropriate description of white people will likely become part of the discussion about whether the teens in the Rusch case will be charged with a hate crime.

We need to be just as clear

Like the dreaded n-word, "white boy" means something different depending on who is saying it and when. Although the term doesn't carry nearly the negative weight as the n-word, it's picking up some heft.

Earlier this month, a black commissioner in Orlando, Fla., Daisy Lynum, stumbled into a fire storm when she said she didn't want "some white boy shooting my son or Tasing," as she argued that her son had been racially profiled by police. Despite fierce criticism, the commissioner stuck by her words, telling a local television station:

"In the last week, I've been called [expletive] more times than I have ever been called, probably in my life, for calling a white boy a white boy. Now when did that become a racial slur?"

Ironically, the taunts that sealed the fate of a Nicholas Minucci, the Howard Beach man who was found guilty of a hate crime in the baseball bat attack on a black man last summer (the man had admitted going to the all-white neighborhood to steal cars), included both racial descriptions:

"What's up, n-----s?" Minucci allegedly yelled at a group of would-be thieves before chasing them. "We'll show you not to come and rob 'white boys.' "

In defending himself against the hate-crime allegation, a charge that could enhance his sentence, Minucci argued he used the n-word as a greeting rather than a slur. That argument didn't fly, and he was sentenced to 25 years in jail.

We need to be just as clear about "white boy."

When the pop group Wild Cherry sang the lyrics: "Play that Funky Music, White Boy" in 1976, it wasn't a putdown. But over the years, "white boy" has evolved into a subtle dig on white males. Black people know this.

White people are starting to figure it out.
 
Well, only if "black boy" is a racial slur.
 
Does 'cracker' = 'white boy'? Or is it worse? I don't hear people say it very often though.
 
^Meh, I wouldn't expect you cracka ass crackas to understand the struggle. :o

And that is the title of the actual story, so you know...me being slovenly.
 
terry78 said:
so you know...me being slovenly.
Lol, you're a credit to your race.:up:

I wouldn't expect you (not your skin's melanin content, but you, as an individual) to understand my struggle. Even.

Two thoughtless bastards on a message board.:)
 
I've never actually met a white individual.
 
It's an insult and assholish, and is a tad racist, since it uses the person's race itself to talk down to them. However, it doesn't have a history of being often used by oppressive people like n***a, ch**k, etc, so I don't put it in the same catergory.

The fact that race came up probably makes the kid being beaten up a hate crime anyway, though. I'm pretty sure it does the other way around.
 
The idea that "hate crimes" are somehow worse than "CRIMES" is freaking embarrassing.

PC-bulls***.:down

If a guy burns down your house because you're Black, how is it any BETTER for you, if a guy burns down your house because he's a local arsonist?:confused:

Crime is Crime.
 
Haha! People need to get thicker skins. My neighbors used to have a bunch of their friends over playing basketball and whenever I'd come home from work they'd all go "Hey, ya cracka mutha-f**ka! How was work?" and stuff like that. I'd burn 'em back, joke around with 'em, we'd all have a laugh, exchange some high 5's and slap some skin, and then get on with our lives. Yeah, we're of a different melatonin pigment. So what?

jag
 
jaguarr said:
Haha! People need to get thicker skins. My neighbors used to have a bunch of their friends over playing basketball and whenever I'd come home from work they'd all go "Hey, ya cracka mutha-f**ka! How was work?" and stuff like that. I'd burn 'em back, joke around with 'em, we'd all have a laugh, exchange some high 5's and slap some skin, and then get on with our lives. Yeah, we're of a different melatonin pigment. So what?

jag

What a beautiful story:confused:
 
jaguarr said:
Haha! People need to get thicker skins. My neighbors used to have a bunch of their friends over playing basketball and whenever I'd come home from work they'd all go "Hey, ya cracka mutha-f**ka! How was work?" and stuff like that. I'd burn 'em back, joke around with 'em, we'd all have a laugh, exchange some high 5's and slap some skin, and then get on with our lives. Yeah, we're of a different melatonin pigment. So what?

jag

Don't make so much sense!:eek:

Dave.gif
 
When I use to play football in the local youth squad, the term 'white boy' was used as a racial slur against me all the time. I was playing in a team that came from a mostly white/hispanic neighborhood, and about half the kids were caucasian or light-skinned hispanics, so we were often threatened and referred to as 'white boys' by the opposing team.
 
Tangled Web said:
If black boy is then so is white boy.

This would be more powerful if several other people hadn't already said it.
 
IAmHe9 said:
When I use to play football in the local youth squad, the term 'white boy' was used as a racial slur against me all the time. I was playing in a team that came from a mostly white/hispanic neighborhood, and about half the kids were caucasian or light-skinned hispanics, so we were often threatened and referred to as 'white boys' by the opposing team.
You should have kicked their asses.
 
JLBats said:
This would be more powerful if several other people hadn't already said it.
Yeah, but I'm giving the Hispanic perspective on this.
 
Tangled Web said:
You should have kicked their asses.

I usually left the aggression for the football field.
 
jaguarr said:
Haha! People need to get thicker skins. My neighbors used to have a bunch of their friends over playing basketball and whenever I'd come home from work they'd all go "Hey, ya cracka mutha-f**ka! How was work?" and stuff like that. I'd burn 'em back, joke around with 'em, we'd all have a laugh, exchange some high 5's and slap some skin, and then get on with our lives. Yeah, we're of a different melatonin pigment. So what?

jag
If a friend greets you with "cracka mother****er", then that person is not your friend, jag.
 
Tangled Web said:
If black boy is then so is white boy.
Yeah, but see...if people a hundred years before I was born were verbally mean to the great, great, great, great grandfathers of people I run into on the street today,....then it gives them license to verbally ridicule/attack ME!

...don't you see?...'cause we all have to be color blind!:up:
Except for when it comes to pale-folk.

That's how it works.:)


And I just love this s***, seeing as how for 3 years my superior at work was a gay, Black man, and how now, my superior is a Black woman (Who is almost never at work because she's had TWO pregnancy-leaves and gets "sick" at the drop of a f***ing HAT!).

Yeah, it's really rough out there.
Unless you have the presence of mind to say "ASK" instead of "AXE".

:down

Sorry, cry elsewhere.
 
I don't think it's so much a racist thing as you're going around calling people "boy". That's condescending and an insult to anyone.
 
Honey Vibe said:
If a friend greets you with "cracka mother****er", then that person is not your friend, jag.

Nahhh. You had to hear the intonation and the way they did it. At first they were trying to piss me off, but when I just rolled with it and gave 'em **** right back they figured I was alright and everything was copasthetic. Ordinarily I would agree with you, though.

jag
 

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