It Starts: Bad news for Blu-Ray

[Topdawg]

But Blu-Ray makes the PS3 expensive, which in turn causes Sony to lose some support.

Microsoft's position won't help HD-DVD win the war, but it means their standalone 360 is reasonably priced. Less than half the price of the PS3 in the UK.

but in business you have to take risks.
they did the same with the DVD.

 

[Addendum]

But DVD was the natural progression from VHS, while the movie buffs has Laser-Disc for a good while

 

[Timstuff]

Laser disc offered superior picture quality to VHS, but it was a somewhat flawed format. It was very inconvinient since the discs were gigantic, and you had to flip them over halfway through.

VHS was actually a very crappy format, but it remained dominant for years just because Laserdisc was not practical for mainstream consumers. Blu-Ray however, offers the same convinience as DVD, except that it's currently more expensive. However, the prices will go down over time, just like they did with DVD.

 

[블라스]

You could kill people with a Laserdisc

 

[Addendum]

Laser disc offered superior picture quality to VHS, but it was a somewhat flawed format. It was very inconvinient since the discs were gigantic, and you had to flip them over halfway through.

VHS was actually a very crappy format, but it remained dominant for years just because Laserdisc was not practical for mainstream consumers. Blu-Ray however, offers the same convinience as DVD, except that it's currently more expensive. However, the prices will go down over time, just like they did with DVD.

And HD-DVD has the same conveinience as DVD, hence it's too early to say HD-DVD or Blu-Ray is better

 

[SpiderFan17]

The problem with these next-gen formats as far as built-in drives go is the fact that if the format fails, for the games to be backwards compatible, it will cost more money using outdated technology to emulate it. Sony fanboys, put your bias aside for 5 seconds and answer this question honestly. Assume that blu-ray fails... what do you think Sony will have to do in order to have bd-roms play in the PS4? The answer is obvious here, but I want someone else to say it.

At least if HD-DVD fails, Microsoft isn't completely screwed out of a generation of games being playable (at least without putting in obsolete equipment).

 

[LongDong]

WHO'S "EVERYBODY"? I DON'T RECALL MANY PEOPLE BEING UPSET ABOUT THE CD FORMAT, WHEN IT CAME OUT. IT WAS A BRAND NEW TECHNOLOGY, MORE RELIABLE, AND REASONABLY PRICED COMPARED TO TAPES.

WHen CD's wee coming out the general consensus was that they were overpriced and overhyped. It was thought that tey would last 5 years at the max before they were worn out and needing to be replaced, that they were too scratchable and too big.

Time has proven the doubters wrong of course

 

[LongDong]

The problem with these next-gen formats as far as built-in drives go is the fact that if the format fails, for the games to be backwards compatible, it will cost more money using outdated technology to emulate it. Sony fanboys, put your bias aside for 5 seconds and answer this question honestly. Assume that blu-ray fails... what do you think Sony will have to do in order to have bd-roms play in the PS4? The answer is obvious here, but I want someone else to say it.

At least if HD-DVD fails, Microsoft isn't completely screwed out of a generation of games being playable (at least without putting in obsolete equipment).

backwards compatibility and Microsoft go together like oil and water. If the PS3 is not able to match up with the PS4 in the compatibility department, you are in the same boat that the MS consumers are in.

Until MS actually cares enough about its fan base to make this an option on their systems, using that as an argument against the Blu-Ray makes no sense.

 

[Zenien]

I know this is probably better suited for the Movie Forum, but it's just as relevant for PS3, as it is as reliant on Blu-Ray succeeding as anything else:



Source: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2017527,00.asp



So it begins...

Any guesses on who's next to jump ship and take HD-DVD's hand?

Universal was never with Blu Ray.

 

[THWIP*]

Universal was never with Blu Ray.

THANKS AGAIN, 'CAPTAIN OBVIOUS'........HE NOTED AS MUCH IN HIS 2ND POST.

 

[Timstuff]

That "news" is basically like going "ZOMG! PS3 is going to fail because Bill Gates says that Xbox 360 is better!" It's not a surprise by any stretch of the imagination. Universal is basically coming out and re-confiming how much distaste they have for any HD format that isn't HD-DVD, which we already knew full well. If this "news" means that Blu-Ray is doomed, then we've known it was doomed since the beginning.

But, I'm sure Universal will come around eventually, if Blu-Ray begins to eclipse HD-DVD by a signifigant margin. They'll come back with their tails between their legs, and say "Okay, so maybe we were wrong."

 

[THWIP*]

That "news" is basically like going "ZOMG! PS3 is going to fail because Bill Gates says that Xbox 360 is better!" It's not a surprise by any stretch of the imagination. Universal is basically coming out and re-confiming how much distaste they have for any HD format that isn't HD-DVD, which we already knew full well. If this "news" means that Blu-Ray is doomed, then we've known it was doomed since the beginning.

But, I'm sure Universal will come around eventually, if Blu-Ray begins to eclipse HD-DVD by a signifigant margin. They'll come back with their tails between their legs, and say "Okay, so maybe we were wrong."

OR THE EXACT OPPOSITE COULD HAPPEN.

LIKE I SAID, THE "FENCE RIDERS" ARE THE REAL PLAYERS HERE.

 

[Avalanche]

The problem with these next-gen formats as far as built-in drives go is the fact that if the format fails, for the games to be backwards compatible, it will cost more money using outdated technology to emulate it. Sony fanboys, put your bias aside for 5 seconds and answer this question honestly. Assume that blu-ray fails... what do you think Sony will have to do in order to have bd-roms play in the PS4? The answer is obvious here, but I want someone else to say it.

At least if HD-DVD fails, Microsoft isn't completely screwed out of a generation of games being playable (at least without putting in obsolete equipment).

PS4 will be backwards compatible. Sony are known for it. Even if Blu-Ray should fail, Sony will include the necessary technology and emulations with which to provide backwards compatibility.

 

[Timstuff]

OR THE EXACT OPPOSITE COULD HAPPEN.

LIKE I SAID, THE "FENCE RIDERS" ARE THE REAL PLAYERS HERE.

What do you think will determine which side the "fence riders" ultimately side with? It will be based around which format is more successful with consumers. PS3 is going to be huge, and everyone who owns a PS3 will automatically be a potential Blu-Ray disc buyer. If there are more potential Blu-Ray buyers than potential HD-DVD buyers, then the "fence riders" will side with Blu-Ray.

 

[THWIP*]

What do you think will determine which side the "fence riders" ultimately side with? It will be based around which format is more successful with consumers. PS3 is going to be huge, and everyone who owns a PS3 will automatically be a potential Blu-Ray disc buyer. If there are more potential Blu-Ray buyers than potential HD-DVD buyers, then the "fence riders" will side with Blu-Ray.

YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

 

[ampersand]

PS4 will be backwards compatible. Sony are known for it. Even if Blu-Ray should fail, Sony will include the necessary technology and emulations with which to provide backwards compatibility.

That wasn't his point. What he was trying to say was that PS4 will be chock full of obsolete technology if Blu Ray fails.

 

[Timstuff]

YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

Prove me wrong.

 

[THWIP*]

That wasn't his point. What he was trying to say was that PS4 will be chock full of obsolete technology if Blu Ray fails.

IF 'BLU-RAY' FAILS, THERE WON'T BE A 'PS4'.

 

[THWIP*]

Prove me wrong.

LOL....PROVE YOU'RE RIGHT, CHIEF.

 

[ampersand]

IF 'BLU-RAY' FAILS, THERE WON'T BE A 'PS4'.

Very possible.

 

[Avalanche]

That wasn't his point. What he was trying to say was that PS4 will be chock full of obsolete technology if Blu Ray fails.

By that point the technology will be cheap, and small. They can fill it with obsolete technology all they like so long as it doesn't impact upon my PS4 playing experience.

 

[Timstuff]

LOL....PROVE YOU'RE RIGHT, CHIEF.

I have the two most successful game consoles in history to back up my belief. Playstation is to videogames what iPod is to music, there's no reason to believe that PS3 will break this trend.

 

[THWIP*]

Very possible.

THE VOLATILITY OF THE 'SONY' STOCKHOLDER'S DEMEANOR IS AT AN ALL-TIME CRITICAL MASS......THEY WON'T STAND FOR ANOTHER BIG RISK, IF 'PS3'/BLU-RAY FAILS. EVEN 'SONY' KNOWS THIS.

 

[THWIP*]

I have the two most successful game consoles in history to back up my belief. Playstation is to videogames what iPod is to music, there's no reason to believe that PS3 will break this trend.

ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE YOU TO SOMEONE....

PRIOR SUCCESS, SAYS NOTHING ABOUT THE FUTURE.

 

[Fran]

DUDE, the GameCube wasn't THAT bad.

Do you remember the Atari Jaguar?

Same case.