BvS It's always Darkest before The Dawn... Chris Terrio IS the Script Writer

[BatLobster]

Gorgeous.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Really?

I thought parts of Man of Steel looked great.

 

[MrsKent26]

MOS was still a beautiful film, despite the desaturation. Were the colors in MOS a big deal to me? No. Do I wish they would up the saturation for BvsS? Yes.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Really?

Pwetty. And not because of Diane Lane and Cav-El.

 

[BatLobster]

If the rest of the movie looked more like those shots, there'd be less complaints.

In addition to the desturation though, I thought it was a bit too contrasty too. Ah well, it's all taste.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

I'm in the minority who loved the way MOS looked. *Shrugs*

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

I loved the overall look of the movie as well. (here are some screenshots I took)

but I still much prefer Phister's work in TDKT.

 

[MrsKent26]

I liked its look, it just wasn't ideal. A simple tweak would have solved it too. There were still some stunning scenes.

 

[BatLobster]

Actually my issue with the MoS look was more the overabundance of flares and extremely bright white light everywhere than anything. Also some of the shaky cam and snap zooms.

Make no mistake though, there are still some stunningly gorgeous images in the film. Snyder has a great visual eye and I'm not taking that away from him at all. But I think reigning in certain things could make a huge difference next time around. Here's hoping working with Larry Fong again will help.

 

[Kevin Smith]

I liked the "train on a farm" thing too. Mainly because that's something I could believe a trained warrior saying in a battle with someone who...grew up on a farm. I liked when Zod swung superman around by his cape for the same reason. Who wouldn't do that to a dude wearing a giant cape if they could? Superman was asking for both of those insulting things, lol.

I liked that Zod grabbed him by his cape and did that because yes that is something the audience thinks of (MOS should have addressed most if not all elements of the mythos like that - what's the audience always been curious about and wondered about Superman? Things like how he would shave or how/why the kryotonians spoke English...I'd have had them speaking in an alien language at the beginning of the film and zoomed and done a camera trick after establishing it's an unknown language they were speaking and still speaking in but it'd now sound like English to us as in reality the characters are carrying on in their alien language - kind of like what Bryan Singer did at the beginning of Valkyrie with the Germans speaking German and subtitles on the screen suddenly switching to English audio for the audience, things like that are what should have been done with MOS and what I was expecting going into it), an opponent would totally attack Superman by doing the not cool move of touching his cape, so I like that they did that, but I also liked that they showed Superman shrugged it off like "**** your cape attack" and showed he doesn't give a **** and his cape is cool and epic and awesome to put to rest the "no capes rule" that they can be grabbed and he can handle it. That was well done, IMO. Whenever the character handles the audience's doubts about him and shrugs them off, moments like that are what build them up and make the audience dig them.

(Long and jumbled post, I apologize, I'm tired)

 

[Kevin Smith]

I loved the overall look of the movie as well. (here are some screenshots I took)

but I still much prefer Phister's work in TDKT.

Love those images.

 

[Axl Van Sixx]

Say what you will about MOS, but the cinematography was beautiful and downright stunning in parts. So many images from that movie stay with you.

Another poster a few months back noted that Snyder puts huge effort into making every shot look like an Alex Ross painting, and I think that more than anything is what makes me glad he's the director in charge of building the DC Cinematic Universe.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Say what you will about MOS, but the cinematography was beautiful and downright stunning in parts. So many images from that movie stay with you.

Another poster a few months back noted that Snyder puts huge effort into making every shot look like an Alex Ross painting, and I think that more than anything is what makes me glad he's the director in charge of building the DC Cinematic Universe.

You could also see some Jim Lee inspiration in some of the shots too.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Cinematography on the whole was great.

But it was just soured by a few shots in the Smallville fight (when he's walking towards Faora), and the last Metropolis fight, where the lighting was very flat and dim. I could see what they were going for with the dusk setting, which matched the tone of the scene, but it still could have used a bit more 'pop'. Combined with some sub-par CG at times, there were some really ugly shots in there that I'm surprised made the cut.

 

[sf2]

I think only the interrogation and the last fighting scenes have the desaturation problem. The rest looks awesome.

 

[DA_Champion]

Some of these complaints about the dialogue...(shakes head)

But then "Where did you train? On a farm" is an example of great dialogue?

Whatever.

Sometimes I think people just want more quips.

Conversations, dialect and observations are "terrible". But "one liners"? That's where its at.

A lot of people do just want more quips though. Hence the popularity of the avengers, a lot of people have argued it's a hilarious movie.

 

[MrsKent26]

A lot of people do just want more quips though. Hence the popularity of the avengers, a lot of people have argued it's a hilarious movie.

Meh.

Marvel overloads on the quips. I'd like some quips and banter for Daily planet scenes, but otherwise, I just want more meaningful dialogue between characters.

 

[DA_Champion]

I visualize Superman shaving by pouring liquid nitrogen on his face to weaken the facial hairs, and then using a specially designed razor, made by Gillette, the Gillette Mach Titanium 5,752, a razor blade kind of like the Gillette Mach 3, but with 5,752 blades made of titanium alloy. He then uses burning coal as aftershave.

Either that, or I figure he shaves himself in the same way everybody else does. Hair is not living tissue, it is dead tissue, why would anybody think Superman's hair is made up adamantium?

 

[MrsKent26]

^ Huh? Was that meant for another thread? How did you get on that topic? Just random musings?

 

[DA_Champion]

I was responding to Kevin Smith, post #812.

 

[Jekecy]

Meh.

Marvel overloads on the quips. I'd like some quips and banter for Daily planet scenes, but otherwise, I just want more meaningful dialogue between characters.

I would argue MOS' greatest faults is focusing too much on 'meaningful dialog'. It took away from the human element of simple interaction. Practically every other line only served to progress the story or impose life maxims through forced monologues.

The sequel could use moments of levity and pure, "unimportant" exchanges.

 

[MrsKent26]

I was responding to Kevin Smith, post #812.

Ah. Makes sense.

 

[MrsKent26]

I would argue MOS' greatest faults is focusing too much on 'meaningful dialog'. It took away from the human element of simple interaction. Practically every other line only served to progress the story or impose life maxims through forced monologues.

The sequel could use moments of levity and pure, "unimportant" exchanges.

For me "meaningful" means character exchanges like two people sitting down and talking about their situations/feelings rather than those story progressors or life maxims. Basically, normal conversation between two people. To me, this is more meaningful than hearing Jor explain Kal's powers. It shows who these people are. So, I guess we really agree on this.

 

[DA_Champion]

For me "meaningful" means character exchanges like two people sitting down and talking about their situations/feelings rather than those story progressors or life maxims. Basically, normal conversation between two people. To me, this is more meaningful than hearing Jor explain Kal's powers. It shows who these people are. So, I guess we really agree on this.

And a great writer can have scenes accomplish both tasks simultaneously

 

[MrsKent26]

And a great writer can have scenes accomplish both tasks simultaneously

I'm hoping that the Goyer and Terrio combo can be those writers because movies like MOS frustrate me at times. If MOS was just some complete turd like GL or SR, I wouldn't bother to analyze it's flaws or hope for something better. I'd just throw my hands up and say "forget it, I hate that movie." But MOS was so close to greatness. So many things going for it and some of those things worked out nicely. But the dialogue just wasn't quite "there." If they can correct this in BvsS, it will be magic.