J.J. Abrams' Super 8

[kedrell]

I liked Star Trek except for the lens flares and the stupid blackhole/villain plot which made absolutely no sense. To me it was a dumb fun movie.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Star Trek was cool, but I'm in no hurry for a sequel.

 

[Sentinel X]

I don't think Star Trek was a dumb fun movie....I think it was a fun movie. I really liked the way they tied the two universes together and therefore expanding the star trek universe instead of starting from scratch. Its pretty cool...it actually got me watching the original star trek series just to see how things unfolded in the alternate time line.

Also, I know JJ has made lens flare his trademark but I think its getting a bit excessive. It worked in some scenes in Star Trek but in that Super 8 clip it seems like overkill

 

[kedrell]

I don't they Star Trek was a dumb fun movie....I think it was a fun movie. I really liked the way they tied the two universes together and therefore expanding the star trek universe instead of starting from scratch. Its pretty cool...it actually got me watching the original star trek series just to see how things unfolded in the alternate time line.

Also, I know JJ has made lens flare his trademark but I think its getting a bit excessive. It worked in some scenes in Star Trek but in that Super 8 clip it seems like overkill

I like that they DID this. I just don't like HOW they did this. You know, the whole plot conveniece black hole thing. It does one of two things depending on what the plot needs: it'll make you time travel or it'll destroy you. Uh, yeah. That's crap. And then the villain plot that really makes no sense. The "You tried to help us but failed so now I'll get my revenge on you for failing instead of taking this time travel opportunity to correct your failures" plot. Double ugh!

 

[Octoberist]

Star Trek was a very fun movie but I wish they kept in the deleted scenes.

 

[Sentinel X]

I like that they DID this. I just don't like HOW they did this. You know, the whole plot conveniece black hole thing. It does one of two things depending on what the plot needs: it'll make you time travel or it'll destroy you. Uh, yeah. That's crap. And then the villain plot that really makes no sense. The "You tried to help us but failed so now I'll get my revenge on you for failing instead of taking this time travel opportunity to correct your failures" plot. Double ugh!

lol...I guess you're right, I never thought about it that way. In all honesty though...a lot of movie are like this, for example: In Terminator why doesn't John Connor send a robot to go back in time and kill the founder of skynet that way humanity doesn't have to worry about killer robots? Or in The Ring why don't people just throw their TVs away?

 

[marvelman2006]

I loved the new trek movie but like some have said with the black hole thing. I think the black hole device works like this. If its detonated in the core of a planet like with spocks it will destroy a planet. if its detonated in space with nothing around it then a time travel whole is created. I dont know though it hurts my head to think about it.

Super 8 looks great though, I love the old spielberg feel to it. I had to correct a family member because he was telling my aunt that spielberg directed it.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

lol...I guess you're right, I never thought about it that way. In all honesty though...a lot of movie are like this, for example: In Terminator why doesn't John Connor send a robot to go back in time and kill the founder of skynet that way humanity doesn't have to worry about killer robots? Or in The Ring why don't people just throw their TVs away?

Terminator : because someone else would have created it as you can see in T2 or T3.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

Star Trek had a good look to it but I thought that the characters were weak (they left me feeling neutral) and that it was too bland. I thought that some of the dialog was really awful (young Spock talking about choosing).

 

[Fanticon]

i liked the lens flares in star trek.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I loved the new Star Trek... really don't know how anyone could think the characters were weak (maybe some of the ones that got less screentime were, but they had to cram a lot in there, so it's only natural). The only weakness I found was in the Nero/Old Spock plot. I wish Abrams and his team had the balls to make Spock the one who destroyed Romulus. Not intentionally of course, but I wish his antimatter (red matter) device had accidentally destroyed Romulus as he was trying to save it.

It still leaves a little bit of a goofy motivation for Nero since he went back in time and could have saved his planet theoretically, but I suppose you could argue that he didn't care because he showed up years before he was born and the people he loved didn't exist yet.

 

[kedrell]

lol...I guess you're right, I never thought about it that way. In all honesty though...a lot of movie are like this, for example: In Terminator why doesn't John Connor send a robot to go back in time and kill the founder of skynet that way humanity doesn't have to worry about killer robots? Or in The Ring why don't people just throw their TVs away?

Maybe he didn't have that information. Granted, ever since T2 it all started getting more convoluted(which is one of the reasons I like T1 the best). No time travel plot device in movies ever makes 100% sense but some are worse than others.

And I never saw The Ring so I can't speak to that.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Yeah, the Terminator time travel stuff gets so convoluted. It's like, once Dyson gets killed in T2, the two Terminators should cease to exist, right? But maybe not, since they came from an alternate timeline. Okay, I can buy that. But if that's the case, why is John Connor so worried about blinking out of existence in T4 when the Terminators try to kill Kyle Reese?

Time travel is cool in movies but it always creates plot holes.

 

[kedrell]

Yeah, the Terminator time travel stuff gets so convoluted. It's like, once Dyson gets killed in T2, the two Terminators should cease to exist, right? But maybe not, since they came from an alternate timeline. Okay, I can buy that. But if that's the case, why is John Connor so worried about blinking out of existence in T4 when the Terminators try to kill Kyle Reese?

Time travel is cool in movies but it always creates plot holes.

Because even if we're talking alternate timelines/universes that doesn't mean that Connor understands that. That's my best guess. Essentially he's worried for nothing.

And going the alternate timeline route is almost always the best way to go. If any problems arise, well then you can just say that this isn't the same universe as before the time travel stuff started. The time traveller 'by definition' creates a new reality when he/she arrives because they weren't here originally. Journeying back in time to the same universe's past would therefore be impossible.

 

[Carnotaur3]

Connor worries because the timeline can still be changed. If you can't stop judgment day, your next goal is to preserve the future because in the original timeline, the Resistance won.

 

[kedrell]

He's probably so many timelines removed from the original who sent Michael Biehn back it's not even funny at this point. You could argue 'who cares?' because in the real universe they still won and all Skynet did was try to create an alternate universe where it won.

 

[Fanticon]

this thread just became the train wreck of super 8

 

[kedrell]

Yeah, off topic city indeed.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It doesn't matter who did or didn't like Star Trek because this is a Super 8 thread.

 

[kedrell]

But the same guy directed both and so it IS germane to the discussion in terms of his directing style.

 

[faceplant]

not one mention of the monster/alien in any of those tweets!! can't wait to see this movie

 

[SuperBatman]

Early Buzz: JJ Abrams’ ‘Super 8′

Why am I not Surprised Devin is the only hater?

 

[Solidus]

Eh it's Devin, I have never cared for him at all. Even though sometimes are opinions may be on the same page one in a great while, I just don't care for him as a critic.

 

[faceplant]

i've been looking for spoilery reviews, haven't found anything, anybody see any?

 

[faceplant]

dupe, sorry