Far From Home Jake Gyllenhaal is...Mysterio?

I'd like Mysterio's voice to sound like the rabbit from Donnie Darko (hehe), calm but eerie and distorted.

Taking inspiration from Frank the Bunny would actually be perfect for Mysterio.

You've got this ridiculous looking outfit that can still be quite ominous and scary for both the audience and characters. I'd totally dig something like that.
 
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Taking inspiration from Frank the Bunny would actually be perfect for Mysterio.

You've got this ridiculous looking outfit that can still be quite ominous and scary for both the audience and characters. I'd totally dig something like that.

Exactly. His voice is usually how I picture Mysterio's, low and calm but also unsettling. A lot of other media tends to make it more bombastic though, so it could go either way, Gyllenhaal is capable of both.
 
It's all in the execution and how fully they commit to it. He can still look goofy but be totally sinister. One's perception changes of a thing once it emotionally affects you. Something can look initially silly but when it has actually scared you, you don't think of it as silly anymore. After all, many people are scared of clowns. They're often just people in a gaudy circus costume with white make-up, a red nose and a wig. They could look ridiculous and goofy, but why do people find them so creepy?

And the 70s TV Incredible Hulk could seem goofy and rather B-movie-ish if you simply looked at pictures, but when you watch the actual series, it is really quite tense and like a psychological horror. That version is actually far scarier than any of the more monstrous versions from the films.

So Mysterious can easily have a fishbowl and theatrical costume. On the surface he could look silly, but once he's scared the **** out of Spider-Man (and possibly the audience) that is not going to look silly anymore.

Correct. The horror aspect of the Hulk was very well done on that show.
 
Never mind.
 
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Just add a cape and this is more or less how I'm expecting him to look.

If they're going the more tech-based look I hope they go for that or this, just add the cape and we're good to go.
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The big question is, how goofy should Mysterio be vs. how sinister should he be?

A little mix of both. Mysterio is a character who screams hammy. He enjoys being a “super villain”. Maybe more serious when the “mask” is off but more deliberately hammy when the costume is on; Beck is essentially playing a character he created.
 
I guess the real question is, do we want to see him as a tragic villain or something else? Marvel love their tragic villains at the moment but I’m not sure how that would work. Maybe they could do a haunted mask type thing where he looses his identity when he puts the costume on and he can’t recognise himself anymore.

Plus, obviously they can’t kill him off so it will be interesting to see how spidey finishes him. It would be fun to do an ambiguous ending like mysterio is carted away by the police and then we see Quentin blake walk off in a different direction
 
The thing is, Mysterio shouldn't be grounded in reality. His entire theme is that he is this mysterious, fantastical being. That is part of the illusion. It would be stupid to try and ground him into reality like the Vulture. The point of the character is that he is not based in real life- He's based in theatrics and special effects. Now unless they completely change Quentin Beck' s character then there is zero reason to apply real world logic to Mysterio's look. He is nothing like Vulture who In the comics was MEANT to be practical.

Jon Watts trying to make Mysterio look like something that could exist in real life would mean he has missed the point of the character entirely. Vulture having a grounded look made complete sense in Homecoming and was true to the character

Yeah, from my [limited] knowledge of Mysterio, while he is in fact tech based, he wants to appear supernatural to his enemies. So a suit like this...
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...immediately betrays that. He might as well hold a big sign saying "I'm not actually magic!"

And in a world where Dr Strange, Thor, Loki, etc exist something like this...
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...is not that out there design-wise, this isn't the Nolan Batman where mysticism was completely removed. Beck might even be partly inspired by Dr Strange

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I guess the real question is, do we want to see him as a tragic villain or something else? Marvel love their tragic villains at the moment but I’m not sure how that would work. Maybe they could do a haunted mask type thing where he looses his identity when he puts the costume on and he can’t recognise himself anymore.

Plus, obviously they can’t kill him off so it will be interesting to see how spidey finishes him. It would be fun to do an ambiguous ending like mysterio is carted away by the police and then we see Quentin blake walk off in a different direction

He doesn't have to be tragic or even sympathetic, they just have to make him multifaceted and nuanced. I didn't find Thanos sympathetic at all but he was written and acted so convincingly that I was affected nonetheless.
 
Mysterio always has some motivation, but it doesn't have to be cliche.
 
The thing is with Mysterio is that, if not handled correctly, he can very easily turn into a classic, generic, monologuing bad guy, which is fine and all for the comics and other media but doesn't cut it in a movie, especially with the recent run of great villains Marvel has produced. You can have the trademark theatricality without turning him into a Buffy villain.
 
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Maybe we should mention bad guys we already know who he might be similar to?

I could see him as a ra’as al ghul character who always keeps you guessing
 
Also, careful who you call ugly in high school...

 
So how does everyone expect Gyllenhaal and Keaton to act together? Its so interesting to think these are actors from my childhood, who could've easily ended up in a Tim Burton movie together, and yet have never acted together (that i'm aware of). And now they may be part of the sinister six together.

11 year old me wouldn't have believed you.
 
I've floated the idea a few times here that I'd like to see there be two Mysterios pretending just to be one as a sort of play on the stage magician and his assistant/double act. I think it would be a fun twist if we thought Jake to be the main Mysterio only to find out he's Daniel Berkhart and that someone like Bruce Campbell is Quentin Beck.
 
So how does everyone expect Gyllenhaal and Keaton to act together? Its so interesting to think these are actors from my childhood, who could've easily ended up in a Tim Burton movie together, and yet have never acted together (that i'm aware of). And now they may be part of the sinister six together.

11 year old me wouldn't have believed you.

Maybe mysterio is the one who breaks him out of prison? That would be a very cool scene.

Hey, how do you think they will explain the name? Like it’s his stage name, or the newspapers called him that, or it’s a code name like 007 for a shadowy private arms industry mysterio belongs to (which would tie in silver sable), or its actually an acronym (M.y.s.t.e.r.i.o) or they will just call him Quentin beck throughout the movie.

Or maybe he’s like the zodiac killer and he leaves it as a clue hoping Spider-Man would catch him. That would be fun and perfect for casting Jake for
 
Vulture may stay in prison the whole movie.

Someone else suggested, and it makes sense, that Mysterio could be a Kamar Taj drop out who is a stage magician. Something a long the lines of "Now You See Me" but with a Marvel twist.
 
I don’t know, seems like unnecessary linkage. Maybe they could keep his origin mysterious. Is he an alien? Wizard? Just a great illusionist? Or something else entirely.

I wonder how they will explain why he has to wear the fishbowl? I hope he doesn’t need it to breath. That’s such an obvious way to beat a villain (spidey gives him a bif, he falls over and breaks the bulb and lies there gasping.)
 
Why does there need to be a "why"?

He's a crazy-ass magician freak, and he can use it to project weird visuals onto. Just have it be the same thing as the box they can "cut assistant ladies in half with" or the "hat with the rabbits and streamers in it", a tool. Only he's a flamboyant lunatic so takes it all to extremes.
 
I think his origins should remain mysterious for most of the movie. Have Peter trying to figure out how he is doing what he is doing and testing theories. Don't just say very early on Beck is an outcast wizard or something. Peter can suspect it, sure. But in the end, it should be sleight of hand.
 
Yeah it’ll be so much fun to do stuff like they lift the bulb and there’s no one there. And then there’s several mysterios
 
The thing is with Mysterio is that, if not handled correctly, he can very easily turn into a classic, generic, monologuing bad guy, which is fine and all for the comics and other media but doesn't cut it in a movie, especially with the recent run of great villains Marvel has produced. You can have the trademark theatricality without turning him into a Buffy villain.



That's exactly what Mysterio should be. A Buffy villain.
 
That's exactly what Mysterio should be. A Buffy villain.

To each their own I guess. I'm not really into Buffy or much of anything Joss has done save for The Avengers. Cabin in the Woods was cool tho.
 
Yeah it’ll be so much fun to do stuff like they lift the bulb and there’s no one there. And then there’s several mysterios

I liked that part from TAS where he rolled his helmet around and turned it into an exploding basketball.
 

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