James Bond 24 - Part 3

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I prefer the henchmen to be memorable by being well written. By having an actual personality or having great dialogue. I don't want a gimmick or a grandiose deformity. These Craig-era films haven't indulged in that kind of cheese. It's too late to start now.

You had a guy who cried blood and another who whose face was actually destroyed by cyanide. They have indulged in that "cheese".

 

[Dark Raven]

I prefer the henchmen to be memorable by being well written. By having an actual personality or having great dialogue. I don't want a gimmick or a grandiose deformity. These Craig-era films haven't indulged in that kind of cheese. It's too late to start now.

Zzzzzzzzzz

 

[chamber-music]

Nanotech, cybernetic enhancements, a cyborg limb?

I say go less high tech. Have Dave's right hand replaced with a hammer and his left hand replaced with a screwdriver

 

[Rodrigo90]

I prefer the henchmen to be memorable by being well written. By having an actual personality or having great dialogue. I don't want a gimmick or a grandiose deformity. These Craig-era films haven't indulged in that kind of cheese. It's too late to start now.

They're returning to the more classic roots of Bond movies. Anything could be possible.

And I don't remember any of the well written henchmen in the last couple of movies.
Would Tee Hee have been memorable without his metal arm?
Would Zao have been memorable without his diamond encrusted face?
Would Jaws have been memorable without his metal...jaws - teeth?
Would Odd Job haven memorable without his bowler hat?
Even Whisper, with his whispery voice, is memorable.
Nick Nack was memorable for being a midget.

The gimmicks and deformities and whatnot are what makes Bond villains and henchmen stand out. I look forward to every movie to see what he's up against, with all their respective quirks.

 

[Marvolo]

You had a guy who cried blood and another who whose face was actually destroyed by cyanide. They have indulged in that "cheese".

There is an actual physical condition called Haemolacria that causes people to produce tears composed of blood.

The cyanide thing was out there, but far from cheese imo. Cheese is goofy and silly. There was nothing silly about a man removing a prosthetic jaw and revealing his rotten ****ed up teeth. Creepy and revolting would be a more apt description of that scene.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

There is an actual physical condition called Haemolacria that causes people to produce tears composed of blood.

The cyanide thing was out there, but far from cheese imo. Cheese is goofy and silly. There was nothing silly about a man removing a prosthetic jaw and revealing his rotten ****ed up teeth. Creepy and revolting would be a more apt description of that scene.

I used cheese in a sarcastic manner. Real or not, they're still gimmicks. Craig's Bond never got rid of physically deformed or unique henchmen.

With that said, my favorite henchman is still Red Grant, mostly because they spent so much time showing that he was Bond's equal in almost every way, and had a personality too. Hell, he would have been successful against Bond if he never got greedy.

 

[Dark Raven]

Red Grant still had some distinguishing physical traits. He was very blond and Arian-looking. They've tried to copy that look a bit since with the likes of Stamper.

I wouldn't mind getting the ugly old hag trope back in Bond as well with someone like Rosa Klebb.

 

[Rodrigo90]

I forgot about Red Grant.

But still he was physically unremarkable (not through his physical capabilities) and that's why I didn't remember him

 

[regwec]

It doesn't have to be a physical deformity, but a little visual serif adds a nice distinctive touch. Consider Locque's octagonal glasses in FYEO.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Yeah. Just a little unique quirk of some kind. Nothing over the top. Just something that leaves an impression on your mind when you think back on them
"Oh that guy with the hook on his stump"
Or being less greedy -
"Oh that guy with the scar on his cheek"

Just something like that, you know?

 

[Warhammer]

You had a guy who cried blood and another who whose face was actually destroyed by cyanide. They have indulged in that "cheese".

Zzzzzzzzzz

There is an actual physical condition called Haemolacria that causes people to produce tears composed of blood.

The cyanide thing was out there, but far from cheese imo. Cheese is goofy and silly. There was nothing silly about a man removing a prosthetic jaw and revealing his rotten ****ed up teeth. Creepy and revolting would be a more apt description of that scene.

There we go.

 

[Octoberist]

I forgot about Red Grant.

But still he was physically unremarkable (not through his physical capabilities) and that's why I didn't remember him

He didnt need to look remarkable because he was freaking Robert Shaw.

 

[Rodrigo90]

 

[Pink Ranger]

Yeah. Just a little unique quirk of some kind. Nothing over the top. Just something that leaves an impression on your mind when you think back on them
"Oh that guy with the hook on his stump"
Or being less greedy -
"Oh that guy with the scar on his cheek"

Just something like that, you know?

Batista's basically a walking bundle of quirk, he doesn't need any makeup or special effects.

 

[StarLord]

His name should just be "Dave".

Now that's a henchman's name!

 

[Rodrigo90]

Batista's basically a walking bundle of quirk, he doesn't need any makeup or special effects.

So true!

 

[jmc]

Does this thing have rumoured title yet?

 

[Pink Ranger]

Die Another Dave

 

[titansupes]

Does this thing have rumoured title yet?

Death Leaves An Echo is the rumoured title, or was last time I looked a few days ago.

 

[Ajendo]

As long as Bautista doesn't wear skinny jeans in the movie I'm happy


The Rock's dad played a Bond villain. Papa Johnson kicked Sean Connery's ass.

It was actually his grandad.

 

[The Endless]

All of Bond's best villains have had quirks or distinctive traits, whether physical or with their personalities. The likes of Almaric's villain in QoS are just completely forgettable because they lack anything that makes them stand out.

 

[regwec]

Bond girls probably also need a particular image to make them memorable, too. Ursula Andress emerging from the sea in that bikini is an obvious example, and that is why it was copied in DAD. Barbara Bach walking through the desert in her evening dress was another classic, which was again copied using Olga Kurylenko in QoS. I would also include Daniela Bianchi appearing ready in bed in FRWL.

Other examples?

Edit: Crap, how could I forget Shirley Eaton's gold-painted body in GF, copied using an oil-covered Gemma Arterton in QoS?

 

[Dark Raven]

All of Bond's best villains have had quirks or distinctive traits, whether physical or with their personalities. The likes of Almaric's villain in QoS are just completely forgettable because they lack anything that makes them stand out.

In all honesty that whole film lacked anything memorable that made it stand out. It was as if they were trying to actively distance themselves from anything that made it a Bond film. Maybe part of why Skyfall was so popular was the nostalgia factor and reintroducing elements that audiences had been sorely missing for a few years.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Other examples?

 

[regwec]

Good one! I would also add May Day's thong-clad playfight with Christopher Walken. Frankly, a bizarre scene, but hardly forgettable.

Bond Girls need that one big, iconic image; Bond Villains need a memorably creepy look.