James Bond 24 - Part 3

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IMO, I think that initially, the producers wanted to distance themselves from OHMSS, so with DAF they essentially acted like that movie didn't happen. IF they had that view, they obviously changed their mind by the time TSWLM was produced.
 
So the literary Bond's characterisation of handling Tracy's death was utilised in CR and QOS, for Vesper's death instead?

I guess there's no point in attempting that again then.

Yeah, to an extent, but QOS is a poor substitute for the novel version of YOLT. The first half of the book is like the first half of Skyfall. Bond is in total shambles, total drunk, can't do his job, bungling assignments. Sitting at the park looking at the trees and ponds when he is supposed to be at the office pm duty. M assigns him one last near impossible assignment in Japan to try and shake him out of it. The object of that assignment turns out to be Blofeld in disguise and Bond goes on a suicidal revenge mission, which culminates in an epic katana duel in an ancient castle.

So the the arc of the Blofeld trilogy (Thunderball, OHMSS, YOLT) has never been done justice on screen, but none is not the time asamny key elements were re-appropriated for CR, QOS, and SF.

The film version of CR did an interesting thing as portraying Vesper as the women who broke and therefore made James Bond, but yeah, it's different in the book. Vesper doesn't affect him that deeply, which is odd because he decides to quit so he can marry her like in the movie, but right when he is going to propose, she commits suicide in the bathtub and reveals her treason and reasons for it in her note. The result is that Bond just closes himself off more as a result.

The one plotline that I would love to see Bond girl-wise is the Gala Brand story. Bond's female equal in Scotland Yard. They come to grudging respect and feel for each other, her eventually falling for Bond's charms, but when the day is won and they have earned a vacation off together, Gala doesn't go with him because she is engaged to another man. Sadly, with the lack of the usual female conquest in QOS and SF, the effectiveness of Brand would greatly reduced. Especially given the numerous poor attempts to pull off a female Bond since TND.
 
That's the kick in the teeth.

At the end of Skyfall, it implies that things are going to hark back to the old days of Bond. He's a little perkier and his attitude with M reminds me of the cool, upbeat and professional attitude that you would see from him in the Connery and Moore days. Which I'm perfectly happy with. He lacked a lot of professionalism and manner with Dench's M, given that he was still wet behind the ears in Casino Royale, suffering from heartache in QOS, and attempting to piece himself back together in Skyfall.

And that was a brilliant, new and more literal take on Bond, which was a welcome change from what Brosnan and the movies in general were starting to become - a parody of 007.

Craig's Bond has battled the issues that the literal Bond had to deal with, and won, which will result in Craig's take taking on the movie Bond persona of the past...

And with that, it brings me to the women. As you said, there hasn't been a proper decent attempt or succesion in forming a female character, that can be considered on the same page as Bond. For what she was worth, I really enjoyed the character of Camille Montes. She was going through the same emotional turmoil and revenge mission as Bond was. And give praise that she was one of the few Bond girls that 007 never had fun with, which was obviously because of the context of the story. But I really liked her character a lot.
The women in Skyfall? Beautiful as they are, and even surprising because one of them is actually Moneypenny, they were totally forgetful.

Severine, I liked her backstory and I was pretty moved by her fate. It's odd because most women last with Bond right throughout the movie, and so I didn't like what she was reduced to, because she seemed interesting. Her apperance, given that story, only would've worked in what she was in and not beyond that. (But it reinforced Silva as more of an ******* than he was, and he was a spectacularly over the top villain anyway, and one that I don't think any of us will forget...even if he hadn't of killed Severine and M.)

But now that we're most likely getting Bond returning to classic movie form, what will happen with the women?

I have no doubt that they'll be written just as strong, most of them anyway. But the women in the past 3 films were written to match Bond's characterisation and to strengthen his journey.
Now that the journey has more or less come full circle, how will they be wrote now? Back to the good old days also? Physically strong and skilfull with martial arts and weaponry? Written to match and challenge his dry wit and sarcasm?
Will they go back to being less interesting? Granted not all of the previous Bond women were unsuccessful at being his equal, in terms of character structure and writing.

But it will be interesting to see where they go from here.
 
I was just watching the fantastic ending to "Skyfall" on youtube

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Since we have Ralph Fiennes as "M" we need Alan Rickman in some role. Not a villain because that would be cliche
 
If "Butt face" Radcliffe ever becomes Bond I am emigrating and renouncing my British citizenship.
 
If "Butt face" Radcliffe ever becomes Bond I am emigrating and renouncing my British citizenship.

You don't think a 5'4" Bond with camera tricks would be convincing as a secret agent? :o
 
Maybe if he wasn't 5'4" of pure vagina.
 
James Bond agrees, but that doesn't turn him into one.
 
Va-jay-james Bond

James Bond will return in...Vajazzle :wow:
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And in Octopussy, Bond's sidekick was called Vijay. :p
 
Well admittedly that's his name in real life: tennis pro Vijay Armitraj. He just used his own name as the character.
 
Sacha Baron Cohen as megalomaniacal evil Bond villain.
 
Does the Craig 007 blu-ray 3 pack come with special features or is it barebones? Asking for a friend that is finally biting on "new Bond".
 
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