Sci-Fi Avatar: The Way Of Water

[Dr. Evil]

I had zero interest in a sequel.....until they announced it was going to be underwater. That has got me interested.

 

[psylockolussus]

How about the volcanoes and other biome ? Maybe they could feature those in the third film.

 

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James Cameron, Jon Landau Land In New Zealand For ‘Avatar’ Restart – Deadline

 

[psylockolussus]

Didn't they start filming back in 2017? I knowthey are filmig twofilms but its already 2020.

 

[:eek:]

Didn't they start filming back in 2017? I knowthey are filmig twofilms but its already 2020.

They began with all the motion capture-stuff and then they started with the live action scenes last year. I think.

 

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David Thewlis Discusses Avatar 2 Character Details

 

[psylockolussus]

Would be cool if they are already filming Avatar 4 and 5.

 

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Thewlis Clarifies His "Avatar" Involvement - Dark Horizons

 

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Cadence13 & Epicleff Media Produce James Cameron Podcast – Deadline

 

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"Avatar" Sequels Have Resumed Production - Dark Horizons

 

[Albright]

Just a room with a lot greenscreens - I bet, there are movies, that are more fun to shoot

 

[Flash525]

Just a room with a lot greenscreens - I bet, there are movies, that are more fun to shoot

Green screens are movies these days. It's a real shame. I know it's easier on cost, but when you/we realise that most of what we're seeing is set in a studio with four walls, it kinda' takes away the awe of it.

It's understandable in heavy science fiction and/or superhero films, but not so much when you're doing shots that could be filmed in a jungle/forest/city/desert etc

 

[terry78]

With this type of film it was a foregone conclusion.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Just a room with a lot greenscreens - I bet, there are movies, that are more fun to shoot

More to it than that for the actors. 40:30.

 

[Albright]

That‘s why the new Starwars movies, look so much more authentic - because they were shot on real locations
Most of the MCU movies had also iconic scenes shot on real locations ir great authentic sets.

Avatar was a great demonstration, what is possible with SFX nowadays, but it never looked real to me.
I‘m afraid the sequels also, no matter how impressive the effects will look like.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Most of the MCU is all green screen as well.

 

[Blade Hoarder]

Yeah. The mcu films are a terrible example.

The Craig Bond films however.

 

[Albright]

erm no they aren‘t (a terrible example) lots of scenes were shot outside - though georgia is wakanda
you know some scenes were shot on real locations, because you see the spy reports.
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[Kane52630]

Avatar was a great demonstration, what is possible with SFX nowadays, but it never looked real to me.
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Looked great to me.

 

[Drizzle]

I always thought Neytiri looked a lot more realistic than Jake's avatar (even though the CGI for him looked good too) but I suppose that was the point since he wasn't a natural born Na'vi.

 

[DarkKnight88]

erm no they aren‘t (a terrible example) lots of scenes were shot outside - though georgia is wakanda
you know some scenes were shot on real locations, because you see the spy reports.
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Everything has location shoots, even Avatar shot in real locations. That doesn’t mean there still wasn’t a ton of green screen work as evidenced by 75% of the rest of the films. Your points don’t hold much water.

 

[Broseph44]

Looked great to me.

 

[Detective Conan]

Looked great to me.

That’s Jim Cameron for you. Always ahead of his time. Heck, T2’s special effects hold up extremely well for a 30+ year old movie. I’d argue it’s better than a lot of modern CGI in today’s movies.

 

[Drizzle]

That’s Jim Cameron for you. Always ahead of his time. Heck, T2’s special effects hold up extremely well for a 30+ year movie.

A lot of credit has to be given to Stan Winston there too. He played a big part in the VFX work on Cameron's films like Terminator, T2 and Aliens. He also worked on Avatar before he passed. He's also one of the reasons why the special effects for Jurassic Park still hold up after nearly three decades along with ILM.

I really miss Stan Winston. His work really brought a lot of blockbusters to life. As much as I love the MCU I can admit that the overly CG Iron Man suits in Phases 2 and 3 don't compare to the suits from the first Iron Man film. There was a weight and realness to them that's been kind of lost since then. Stan played a big part in that and it shows.

 

[matrix_ghost]

Looked great to me.

Thanks Kane for your excellent post.
I often think that this is a problem with people giving bad examples of certain shots in movies when comparing VFX jutst to fit the narrative of what they are saying when many other factors need to be considered,