DC Television James Gunn's Suicide Squad Spinoff ‘Peacemaker’ Starring John Cena on HBO Max

[Adrian Chase]

I'm the same. Didn't like the new intro song at first, now I love it.

S2 Intro > S1 Intro

I will die on this hill.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

S2 Intro > S1 Intro

I will die on this hill.

A few weeks ago I would agreed. Not now. Season 2 intro has more Eagly too.

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

It’s funny to see Eric Nally/Foxy Shazam featured so prominently in this show. No joke I used to work with his mom. Small world!

 

[Primal Slayer]

Well....alrighty then

 

[flickchick85]

Perfectly fine finale, but people are gonna hate it because it didn't fulfill their shared universe wishes. I am actually encouraged because it kept in line with Gunn's "you don't have to watch one project to understand what's happening in the next" mantra more than I expected, as I was worried about all the "it sets up Man of Tomorrow" talk. I just don't want that to become a thing, personally. Straight-up killed the MCU for me. This resolved a lot of character stuff pretty nicely, I thought.

I'm just sad there was no Lanterns trailer. Knight of the Seven Kingdoms supposedly ends on March 1st so I'm kinda expecting Lanterns' premiere date to be March 8th, or somewhere around there. I guess Welcome to Derry is our next best hope for a trailer. In that instance, I'm just waiting for it to pop up online, cuz no way I'm watching that.

 

[TheGDBatman]

Perfectly fine finale, but people are gonna hate it because it didn't fulfill their shared universe wishes. I am actually encouraged because it kept in line with Gunn's "you don't have to watch one project to understand what's happening in the next" mantra more than I expected, as I was worried about all the "it sets up Man of Tomorrow" talk. I just don't want that to become a thing, personally. Straight-up killed the MCU for me. This resolved a lot of character stuff pretty nicely, I thought.

I'm just sad there was no Lanterns trailer. Knight of the Seven Kingdoms supposedly ends on March 1st so I'm kinda expecting Lanterns' premiere date to be March 8th, or somewhere around there. I guess Welcome to Derry is our next best hope for a trailer. In that instance, I'm just waiting for it to pop up online, cuz no way I'm watching that.

It was more of a standard ending than I expected. I thought it felt a bit choppy in the back half, but overall all the character beats worked for me.

Episode 7 was my favourite overall I think. Really enjoyed this season. It could have maybeeee used one more episode (divide this one up and add a bit more connective tissue).

 

[donuts]

Yes!

Great finale.

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I was hoping for Checkmate! I guess that's going to be the follow up series to Peacemaker and also going to reintroduce Amanda Waller, instead of her solo series?!

 

[Weather Witch]

Great character beats, understated cameos and some nice teases for future projects. I do think Gunn needlessly hyped up the last three episodes and fuelled the fires a few too many times. That said, the show feels very connected to the DCU without being homework. Can't wait to see what's next!

 

[donuts]

Great character beats, understated cameos and some nice teases for future projects. I do think Gunn needlessly hyped up the last three episodes and fuelled the fires a few too many times. That said, the show feels very connected to the DCU without being homework. Can't wait to see what's next!

As promised. But I do think that as a fan of DC Comics one would be excited about the introduction of

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Checkmate and Planet Salvation - which I thought to be Dino Island - for a second there at the end. As well as for where this takes other characters, such as Rick Flag and ARGUS teaming up with Lex Luthor.

Sometimes I feel like Marvel's cameo-ville trailer for the next thing kind of approach has badly messed with fans' understanding of good storytelling.

And mind you, there HAS been great storytelling IN the MCU , but I've also never been quite a fan of Kevin Feige 's "keep teasing them with the bigger picture even though we have a half assed movie" kind of approach. Oh wow, Charlize Theron will play so and so in the MCU. What a surprise! Dang! Harry Styles! Wowza. Hercules! Bazinga!

Not happening here. Batman's not popping up for the sake of it in this season finale.

And yet, BIG THINGS have been brought into the DCU here , while providing a fitting conclusion to the characters' story this season.

And that weird

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fairytale dimension

? Absolutely loved that!

 

[Primal Slayer]

If i cared more about these characters more id probably enjoy it more but i don't so it felt like a lot of wasted space. Ending Earth X two episodes before the finale was a mistake imo. They could've done that for the finale and still hit a lot of these moments imo

 

[donuts]

If i cared more about these characters more id probably enjoy it more but i don't so it felt like a lot of wasted space. Ending Earth X two episodes before the finale was a mistake imo. They could've done that for the finale and still hit a lot of these moments imo

They ended it one episode before the finale.

 

[Weather Witch]

Sometimes I feel like Marvel's cameo-ville trailer for the next thing kind of approach has badly messed with fans' understanding of good storytelling.

Yeah, I think that's the difference. Aside from the one character appearing in Creature Commandos (Clayface), it hasn't felt like the DCU prioritizes the next project(s) over the current one. We just get to spend more time with some of these characters.

Plus, we still had an insane amount of returning characters. Flag Sr, Flag Jr, Hawkgirl, Guy Gardner, Maxwell Lord, Lex, Otis, Sydney, the other people from Luthor Corp, and Mori from the DOD. That's a level of interconnectivity that most MCU shows can't even dream of.

And yet, BIG THINGS have been brought into the DCU here , while providing a fitting conclusion to the characters' story this season.

That's honestly the most important part for me. I can't wait to see these characters again.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Best episode of the season for me. Just all around great character work and acting from the main group; I really love all of these characters and this episode really showed off why they work so well together.

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And now with new additions to the 11th Street Kids (Sasha, Fleury and Judomaster) Checkmate will be awesome to see. I was hoping that’s here they were going and I’m glad it is. Also, they did a pretty good job of keeping you guessing where Flag was going with his plans or whether he was truly a good or bad guy. At this point, he’s awful. I can almost justify what he did to Chris because of what happened to his son but doing all of this to send metahumans to an offworld prison is despicable. Hopefully Superman and Checkmate can team up to stop it.

Now just give me Anson Mount as King Faraday!

 

[solidsnake86]

The character work was great. Overall I just didn't care too much for where they went with the story this season. I actually think there was more setup for the dcu then there needed to be but that is just a personal preference as I like these stories to be self contained.

 

[DCDAVE]

The finale was not what I was expecting. I thought maybe we would get a bigger cameo. It does set up Luther’s return in MOT without the casuals having to watch Peacemaker. Not a fan at all at how they introduced Checkmate but they at least made Peacemaker self contained as I can’t imagine these characters in the DCU movies. I love how Flagg Sr. has turned to the dark side. That was a cool way to end season 2.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Did they give any reason why the Kids decided to call it Checkmate? I guess it doesn’t matter but I was wondering if the name was a reference to something that happened this season that I missed. Obviously they chose that name because Sasha and Chris are members in the comics but in-universe I’m not sure why they called it that.

If Ads and Judomaster played chess instead of Scrabble that would have been a good opportunity but they didn’t so I’m not sure why they picked that name. It doesn’t matter but I’m curious.

 

[donuts]

The finale was not what I was expecting. I thought maybe we would get a bigger cameo. It does set up Luther’s return in MOT without the casuals having to watch Peacemaker. Not a fan at all at how they introduced Checkmate but they at least made Peacemaker self contained as I can’t imagine these characters in the DCU movies. I love how Flagg Sr. has turned to the dark side. That was a cool way to end season 2.

I'm pretty sure these characters WILL pop up in future DCU movies.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Yeah I mean, some of them already have.

 

[Stringer]

I didn't care for the finale padding the runtime by making much of it a concert episode with 2 full songs being played, but maybe that's on me because I don't find Peacemaker and Harcourt much of a compelling romance. Still some good moments and a solid ending to the season.

 

[dhandler01]

Did they give any reason why the Kids decided to call it Checkmate? I guess it doesn’t matter but I was wondering if the name was a reference to something that happened this season that I missed. Obviously they chose that name because Sasha and Chris are members in the comics but in-universe I’m not sure why they called it that.

If Ads and Judomaster played chess instead of Scrabble that would have been a good opportunity but they didn’t so I’m not sure why they picked that name. It doesn’t matter but I’m curious.

They didn't give a reason but I don't think we need one until next season...and it only needs to be like a small explanation.

Character 1: "Why Checkmate?"

Ads: "because we are a check against Flagg and the world attacking Metas..."

Adrian: "Yeah its like CHECKMATE mfer!!!"

Ads: "ADRIAN!"

BTW...

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I think it is pretty obvious how Lex gets redeemed. He has totally played Flagg, used his hatred of Smith to shift him to hating all Metas and basically become a defacto member of Team Luthor. Flagg is going to push the government (either before MOT or after he helps save the day with Supes) to pardon Luthor to help with the Salvation Project...maybe even getting him a position at Argus or in the Government. (Office of Metahuman Affairs perhaps) He will then use his access to continue his original plan probably culminating in President Luthor down the line.

Just my feelings for now.

I loved the season and the finale was probably the best way to end it. If it had done the MCU ending I would have gagged. This needed to tie off loose ends and lead to a fresher start and it did!

Oh and the

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Lollipop Dimension

I swear I saw that on another show years ago. Same character dedign and everything only they were all gray not colorful. Stargate maybe?

 

[king666]

Finale was fun!

I think people are focusing way too much on this idea that Peacemaker is a major Man of Tomorrow setup.

If I had to guess I'd say Salvation is going to be an important element of the DCU but not its' main focus or plot point. The "setup" was Luthor and Flag Sr. working together, and the villain of MOT is not directly linked to this TV show.

 

[TheGDBatman]

Finale was fun!

I think people are focusing way too much on this idea that Peacemaker is a major Man of Tomorrow setup.

If I had to guess I'd say Salvation is going to be an important element of the DCU but not its' main focus or plot point. The "setup" was Luthor and Flag Sr. working together, and the villain of MOT is not directly linked to this TV show.

Honestly, the finale felt like more of an epilogue to me. People are whining about setup, but the setup felt like a natural extension of the characters and their respective journeys.

I think the reason the finale landed for me is because the emotional beats did. It didn't need to be action laden to be effective.

I know people are complaining about the mini concerts or whatever, but I thought the Nelson one was necessary. The Foxy Shazam one felt a bit indulgent (even if I like the song/band). Although I can see why he thought it was necessary to use it as a bit of a parallel to the first concert scene. Again, these wouldn't have bugged me as much if it was spread out over two episodes. My only other annoyance was the overabundance of slow mo with music.

But the good was good. Seeing the characters wrap up their storylines in satisfying ways was, well, satisfying. Particularly liked Adebayo's speeches.

Time to do some reading on Salvation! Not something I'm overly familiar with... but the concept excites me.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

Jennifer Holland and Danielle Brooks really killed it this season and Cena has definitely made this role his own. The core cast in this show is perfection and I really enjoyed the new additions this season too like Tim Meadows, Sol Rodriguez and Frank Grillo.

Michael Rooker was fun too but I wish he was in it more and I also wish they did a bit more with other characters and the Earth X stuff but overall I really enjoyed this season.

It definitely gets me more excited about what's to come in Gunn's greater DCU as well.

 

[Mani-Man]

Seeing some Twitter discourse and its pretty clear that a lot of DC fans are not better than the Marvel Fanboys who just want their toys slapped together with a loud bang.
The Finale was a nice Character focus finale without feeling the need to Slam dozens of exclamation mark onto everything while stuff explodes all around.

But there absolutely needs to be a Third season, especially with the way it ended.
You cant end it on this.

 

[Stringer]

Seeing some Twitter discourse and its pretty clear that a lot of DC fans are not better than the Marvel Fanboys who just want their toys slapped together with a loud bang.
The Finale was a nice Character focus finale without feeling the need to Slam dozens of exclamation mark onto everything while stuff explodes all around.

But there absolutely needs to be a Third season, especially with the way it ended.
You cant end it on this.

While I'm sure there's some of that going on in places, X and the like are nothing but a pool of negativity.