Jay Z or Eminem???!!!

Who is the best emcee overall????

  • Eminem

  • Jay Z


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I agree, but ignorance is not necessarily a negative thing. To say Eminem Sucks, you are ignorant to his music and Hip Hop in general and no NOTHING of Hip hop. It's like saying Bruce Lee was a horrible martial artist...What the ****???? that's how I feel about that. They would have to be ignorant to Martial Arts to say such a misguided statement. Now if you don't like Bruce Lee's style, That is understood, but to question his ability to do what he does GREAT, then that is ignorance.

C'mon kiddies, it's time for Opinions 101 with Mr. Bamfer!

Whether rap, or Eminem, or Jay Z is bad, or good, or great is up to you! That's an opinion - something that can't proven. Opinions are not fact. So, you are allowed to think that Eminem and what he does is "GREAT", but others are allowed to think that Eminem and what he does "sucks".
 
*comes in expecting half the thread to be an argument about rap's credibility as a musical art form*



*leaves knowing things haven't changed*

We're arguing about totally different things :cmad:

Saying I don't like NIN is not the same as saying NIN sucks without any reason to justify such a bland and irrelevant statement.

I already6 explained the ignorance thing so you can go back and read some of that.

Oh for gods sake, this is just semantics. When we say "they suck" we don't mean "they are talentless." Of course it's just a way of saying "I do not like this performer." Maybe you're the one still in high school, or more likely, elementary school.
 
C'mon kiddies, it's time for Opinions 101 with Mr. Bamfer!

Whether rap, or Eminem, or Jay Z is bad, or good, or great is up to you! That's an opinion - something that can't proven. Opinions are not fact. So, you are allowed to think that Eminem and what he does is "GREAT", but others are allowed to think that Eminem and what he does "sucks".

I agree, but anyone who understands the schematics of Hip Hop would never use those words on these two. maybe on Soulja Boy or Young Jeezy, but not these guys. It's ok, opinions are like A-holes...you know the rest.
 
When we say "they suck" we don't mean "they are talentless." Of course it's just a way of saying "I do not like this performer."
I'm sure this is something we can all agree with. Can we get the thread back on topic now? :o
 
C'mon kiddies, it's time for Opinions 101 with Mr. Bamfer!

Whether rap, or Eminem, or Jay Z is bad, or good, or great is up to you! That's an opinion - something that can't proven. Opinions are not fact. So, you are allowed to think that Eminem and what he does is "GREAT", but others are allowed to think that Eminem and what he does "sucks".

Oh gee willikers Mr. Bamfer!
 
*comes in expecting half the thread to be an argument about rap's credibility as a musical art form*



*leaves knowing things haven't changed*

You can't leave yet. You know you need a good laugh to end the day with.
 
We're arguing about totally different things :cmad:



Oh for gods sake, this is just semantics. When we say "they suck" we don't mean "they are talentless." Of course it's just a way of saying "I do not like this performer." Maybe you're the one still in high school, or more likely, elementary school.

The word suck is childish. I use it too, but when I feel EVERY angle of that thing that sucks is BAD. Batman and Robin the movie SUCKS!!!! A word that can be mistaken for different meaning should not be used so loosely.
 
I agree, but anyone who understands the schematics of Hip Hop would never use those words on these two. maybe on Soulja Boy or Young Jeezy, but not these guys. It's ok, opinions are like A-holes...you know the rest.

How can you say that? So, you the people who agree with you understand the schematics of Hip Hop? And those who don't agree with you don't understand the schematics of Hip Hop?

Do you understand the schematics of common sense?
 
I agree, but anyone who understands the schematics of Hip Hop would never use those words on these two. maybe on Soulja Boy or Young Jeezy, but not these guys. It's ok, opinions are like A-holes...you know the rest.

If you dont want peoples opinions, why did you start an opinion poll?:confused:?
 
I know the schematics of septic tanks and attics.
 
How can you say that? So, you the people who agree with you understand the schematics of Hip Hop? And those who don't agree with you don't understand the schematics of Hip Hop?

Do you understand the schematics of common sense?

Not actually cause I can understand why people would say that Jay Z or Nas are better than Eminem and they could even be bigger Hip Hop heads than I. I would not agree but I would understand that argument. I find Eminem suits what I feel embodies an Emcee to the core, where as they may see that in Jay or Nas. They may still understand the schematics of Hip hop or even if someone says Lauren Hill is iller than all of them. I wouldn't agree but she is one of my favs of all time.
 
Not actually cause I can understand why people would say that Jay Z or Nas are better than Eminem and they could even be bigger Hip Hop heads than I. I would not agree but I would understand that argument. I find Eminem suits what I feel embodies an Emcee to the core, where as they may see that in Jay or Nas. They may still understand the schematics of Hip hop or even if someone says Lauren Hill is iller than all of them. I wouldn't agree but she is one of my favs of all time.

You don't have to agree! It's one of the great things about our friends, the opinions!
 
On who is better Jay Z or Eminem and why maybe you think one over the other...NOTHING ELSE

Well, you should have known you would get people who dislike them both.
 
Well, you should have known you would get people who dislike them both.

This wasn't for those people. Good care less for their opinions. This poll is for one or the other and if that's not you M.O. then I don't care cause I din't ask anything else but that.
 
I know the schematics of septic tanks and attics.

I don't want my awesome skills to go unnoticed :cwink:

I know the habits of recovering alcohol addicts
As well as the max acid dose for some practice
Cause I’m a rockstar baby, a million dollars in plastic
I know the rich life, with fanatics and sadness
All you know are schematics for septic tanks and attics
 
I don't want my awesome skills to go unnoticed :cwink:

I know the habits of recovering alcohol addicts
As well as the max acid dose for some practice
Cause I’m a rockstar baby, a million dollars in plastic
I know the rich life, with fanatics and sadness
All you know are schematics for septic tanks and attics

pretty good
 
I don't want my awesome skills to go unnoticed :cwink:

I know the habits of recovering alcohol addicts
As well as the max acid dose for some practice
Cause I’m a rockstar baby, a million dollars in plastic
I know the rich life, with fanatics and sadness
All you know are schematics for septic tanks and attics

That is whack, son! Whack! Ooohhh....Snap! Seriously, slang term, man, slang term!
 
As I was saying earlier, if you want a rapper with awesome lyrics, one need look no further than MC Frontalot...


http://youtube.com/watch?v=-HhDTZNpa6c

ummmm hello! I was wondering, how goth is my frock?
see I got a thing for horror movies and mope rock
but I can't shock my hair up (I ran out of stock)
and just like that, frontalot ran out of talk
it was tragic, unheard of, never seen, me:
out of rhymes when they usually come indefatigably
but me here talk good? no, bad talk do!
like my tongue got encrypted right before I lost root
like my small talk got box-rox0red on a prior boot
it's moot, she only dates guys in chokes and boots,
not brutes lacking eyeliner like I lack
but look, I'll put a little on plus lip shellac
just to stand next to that and dream about love
of necessity, that has always had to be enough
cause I can't talk to goth girls, i just stare and stammer
my name is mc frimmer frammer
and damn her if she giggles damn her double if she laughs
goth girls like it when you double-damn it twice fast

Goth girls, goth girls: they're the girls that go
to see the nerdcore rapper with the geeked out flow
at the show, you can see the black lace on parade
I met a hundred dozen of 'em but I ain't got laid

Got shunned by her at the Rocky Horror premiere
she steered clear of the nerd crowd but I heard loud in my ear
the disdain that she held for my type
always geeking on the computron -- I get hype
on the stage, she might notice me then and observe
that I'm "ironically hip in some flip universe"
and her purse in patent leather held in fishnet glove
could then contain mp3 player with the Front filled up
her name is nyteshaed, yo don't call her cherry tomato
she look like paisley tinkle but poisonous like topato
she says her hair got attacked cause it's black and it's blue
she got a johnny the homicidal maniac tattoo
legs all deep in the boots, boots all up on the heels
yes, the kind to make a certain type of fetishist squeal
the ordeal that I endure: this close to her splendor
yet besieged by my shyness; try this: I surrender!
I'll render my intentions in the usual way
(home alone, suicidegirls up on the cathode ray)

(Chorus)

IRL, my woman tells me that I shouldn't be coveting
I tell her "yo, you better get in a coven then"
it's like eek, I get to sleep on the couch for a week
all watching old elvira videos on tv
yeah hee hee hee, laugh it up. you don't live like I do:
at the mercy of any sister with wrist scars and black eye goo
I tried to get into some cheerleaders and failed
banana repugnant and tanned, so bland and so stale
i avail myself of the local cafe, light a clove up
thumb through Camus (in French, which I can't read, but so what?)
I think that goth could flower in nerdcore's embrace
I converted Edward Gorey's lettering into a typeface
befriended vampires on LJ and MySpace
even put that spooky echo filter on the bass
but I can't talk to goth girls, i just stare and stammer
my name is mc frimmer frammer
and damn her if she giggles damn her double if she laughs
goth girls like it when you double-damn it twice fast

(chorus)

Goth girls, goth girls: they're the girls that got
their souls stuck somewhere between the kettle and pot
frontalot been enamored of 'em since I was young
I met a hundred dozen of 'em, never ever humped one


Now this man is a poet :o
 
As I was saying earlier, if you want a rapper with awesome lyrics, one need look no further than MC Frontalot...


http://youtube.com/watch?v=-HhDTZNpa6c

ummmm hello! I was wondering, how goth is my frock?
see I got a thing for horror movies and mope rock
but I can't shock my hair up (I ran out of stock)
and just like that, frontalot ran out of talk
it was tragic, unheard of, never seen, me:
out of rhymes when they usually come indefatigably
but me here talk good? no, bad talk do!
like my tongue got encrypted right before I lost root
like my small talk got box-rox0red on a prior boot
it's moot, she only dates guys in chokes and boots,
not brutes lacking eyeliner like I lack
but look, I'll put a little on plus lip shellac
just to stand next to that and dream about love
of necessity, that has always had to be enough
cause I can't talk to goth girls, i just stare and stammer
my name is mc frimmer frammer
and damn her if she giggles damn her double if she laughs
goth girls like it when you double-damn it twice fast

Goth girls, goth girls: they're the girls that go
to see the nerdcore rapper with the geeked out flow
at the show, you can see the black lace on parade
I met a hundred dozen of 'em but I ain't got laid

Got shunned by her at the Rocky Horror premiere
she steered clear of the nerd crowd but I heard loud in my ear
the disdain that she held for my type
always geeking on the computron -- I get hype
on the stage, she might notice me then and observe
that I'm "ironically hip in some flip universe"
and her purse in patent leather held in fishnet glove
could then contain mp3 player with the Front filled up
her name is nyteshaed, yo don't call her cherry tomato
she look like paisley tinkle but poisonous like topato
she says her hair got attacked cause it's black and it's blue
she got a johnny the homicidal maniac tattoo
legs all deep in the boots, boots all up on the heels
yes, the kind to make a certain type of fetishist squeal
the ordeal that I endure: this close to her splendor
yet besieged by my shyness; try this: I surrender!
I'll render my intentions in the usual way
(home alone, suicidegirls up on the cathode ray)

(Chorus)

IRL, my woman tells me that I shouldn't be coveting
I tell her "yo, you better get in a coven then"
it's like eek, I get to sleep on the couch for a week
all watching old elvira videos on tv
yeah hee hee hee, laugh it up. you don't live like I do:
at the mercy of any sister with wrist scars and black eye goo
I tried to get into some cheerleaders and failed
banana repugnant and tanned, so bland and so stale
i avail myself of the local cafe, light a clove up
thumb through Camus (in French, which I can't read, but so what?)
I think that goth could flower in nerdcore's embrace
I converted Edward Gorey's lettering into a typeface
befriended vampires on LJ and MySpace
even put that spooky echo filter on the bass
but I can't talk to goth girls, i just stare and stammer
my name is mc frimmer frammer
and damn her if she giggles damn her double if she laughs
goth girls like it when you double-damn it twice fast

(chorus)

Goth girls, goth girls: they're the girls that got
their souls stuck somewhere between the kettle and pot
frontalot been enamored of 'em since I was young
I met a hundred dozen of 'em, never ever humped one


Now this man is a poet :o


unique...ok back to Eminem and Jay Z now
 
This thread can't be for real. Eminem? Really?

Em was my #3 rapper a few years ago, following only Jay and Luda. Em's put out some great music but Jay's stuff means so much more. I live in Delaware so I get to see plenty of "crazy white boy wants to kill his mom". But I play "Meet The Parents" and the whole story Jay tells is vivid and crisp and unlike 97% of Em's work....not a gimmick.
 
I used to be a fan of rap, and I don't really listen to it much anyone but when I do I happen to listen it's usually Eminem, Jay-Z, or Camron. But to answer the question posed I think Eminem is a better rapper but not by much.
 

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