BvS Jesse Eisenberg IS Lex Luthor - Part 10

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His performance was nothing short of amazing.
And it deserves to be held in such high regards.

But, because of Heath's death, and TDK being one of the most groundbreaking experiences in the last ten years, it was always going be a challenge to knock him off that pedestal, especially with those two factors gluing firmly on there.

Saying that, however, Heath's Joker was a truly unique interpretation and it'll never be topped, because you'll never see another one quite like it again.

There's no challenge for Jesse like there is for Jared Leto, because it's up to him and Ayer to put their Joker up there with Heath's.

Jesse's only challenge is to breath that same, entertaining life into the performance as Heath did with his respective role. Will that make Jesse as beloved as Heath - Lex as beloved as the Joker? Well, that question will be answered in 3 months time.

I still reckon and hope that Jesse's performance as Lex will leave as great an impact on the character of Lex in cinema as Heath's performance did for the Joker character. I don't need Jesse to be on Heath's level but I do hope he gives a remarkable performance as Lex. And he's absolutely capable of doing so.
 
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I still reckon and hope that Jesse's performance as Lex will leave as great an impact on the character of Lex in cinema as Heath's performance did for the Joker character. I don't need Jesse to be on Heath's level but I do hope he gives a remarkable performance as Lex.

Jesse does have the chance to really leave his own mark on the role and bring forward new expectations of the character. Because it is interesting how much of an impact Heath made, not just on cinema, but on the Joker. I do hope Jesse can create an impression like that for himself and Lex.
 
Jesse does have the chance to really leave his own mark on the role and bring forward new expectations of the character. Because it is interesting how much of an impact Heath made, not just on cinema, but on the Joker. I do hope Jesse can create an impression like that for himself and Lex.

Agreed through and through. :up:
 
if they just had lex be modeled after corporate clancy brown animated version, even the greatest jesse comical lex fan would be applauding that they finally gave live action businessman lex though!
 
if they just had lex be modeled after corporate clancy brown animated version, even the greatest jesse comical lex fan would be applauding that they finally gave live action businessman lex though!

Not I. I've always found that portrayal to be a little boring.
 
Lex needs to have a public and private persona very different, and the trailers suggest enough to show that's the case. It's the absolute right way to go.
 
What I liked most with the trailer was how clever the scene actually was - the scene between Clark, Bruce and Lex.

Tension rises between Clark and Bruce, they begin as themselves, but through escalation and heat, you can start seeing Superman and Batman break through the cracks, even just by a tiny fraction, and as the silence holds between them, creating more tension, allowing the alter-egos of these two juggernauts to potentially unravel further, Lex and his public persona comes into the mix and breaks the ice...
It was comedic but that's not even the point, as the trailer goes on to show just much this "little dandelion" is not to be underestimated as he can make both gods like Batman and Superman feel fear... I loved that.

The persona masks a truly dangerous and ruthless mind and, judging from that trailer, Jesse is set to plays both sides with complete fire...
 
Jesse does have the chance to really leave his own mark on the role and bring forward new expectations of the character. Because it is interesting how much of an impact Heath made, not just on cinema, but on the Joker. I do hope Jesse can create an impression like that for himself and Lex.

Ledger's Joker is a milestone from the approach angle of giving us a truly fresh and unexpected interpretation for the villain, at least in film. The character was unshackled to become something truly horrifying that we hadn't see before. I would argue that Hardy's Bane follows in those footsteps, although for some reason that was to the chagrin of some fans who wanted more of a CB-faithful version of the character. Jesse's Lex continues in that tradition. I think Leto's Joker probably will as well.

Someone had to be the first one to do it, and Ledger was brilliant--and he tragically died before release. Anyway, all that cemented his place on the CBM Mount Olympus.

I think that maybe the legacy of Jesse's Lex will be to help normalize that its not only acceptable but a Very Good Thing to creatively reinterpret some of these CBM characters. There are certain core ingredients to characters that should remain unchanged, features that will always "make them who they are." But so much can be done to surprise and delight us with characters. I wonder if Jesse's portrayal will herald a new normal that we may ironically come to expect a fresh and boldly inventive interpretation as a new standard, rather than getting the same old versions of characters.
 
Ledger's Joker is a milestone from the approach angle of giving us a truly fresh and unexpected interpretation for the villain, at least in film. The character was unshackled to become something truly horrifying that we hadn't see before. I would argue that Hardy's Bane follows in those footsteps, although for some reason that was to the chagrin of some fans who wanted more of a CB-faithful version of the character. Jesse's Lex continues in that tradition. I think Leto's Joker probably will as well.

Someone had to be the first one to do it, and Ledger was brilliant--and he tragically died before release. Anyway, all that cemented his place on the CBM Mount Olympus.

I think that maybe the legacy of Jesse's Lex will be to help normalize that its not only acceptable but a Very Good Thing to creatively reinterpret some of these CBM characters. There are certain core ingredients to characters that should remain unchanged, features that will always "make them who they are." But so much can be done to surprise and delight us with characters. I wonder if Jesse's portrayal will herald a new normal that we may ironically come to expect a fresh and boldly inventive interpretation as a new standard, rather than getting the same old versions of characters.

Absolutely agree! :up:

And that's what I'm wondering too. The public's collective consciousness was redefined by The Dark Knight and Heath's Joker. It created and opened up floodgates as to what a comic book world could craft. People went nuts over Heath's Joker for many reasons; his performance, how fresh the take was, and how he was written.
It's left a lasting-impact and any writer for the character, in any given medium, couldn't help but want to emulate that greatness Heath and Nolan provided for the Joker.

Ayer and Jared's Joker is also part of that revision of the character - what they can bring new to the table. But, despite the tattoo complaints, he's still very much the Joker. As far as I've seen and read, he hasn't lost any of the core elements. Just molded differently and refreshingly.

And nor has Jesse's Lex. They've simply been molded to a contemporary era. You can still see the evil genius at work in the clips, you can still see his well-educated and very twisted mind coming into play...
And yes, we can see a bit of Hackman in his public persona, which I think is going to be a clever and respectful lover-letter to the classic, and that's all it will be.

Honest to God, when we see the full performance, I think most, if not all fans, will be begging to see more of him - which would be a luxury we never got with Heath.
 
I wish with hair, they'd of gone this look for JessLex
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There is 0 chance this performance is put in the same ball park with Ledger. I don't think many are hoping for such epicness. Is Eisenberg even a method actor? People were excited with Ledger through the roof once they first heard his laugh in the trailer. This trailer has people already not fans of his interpretation. I just hope it's a good performance and not bad like some are predicting. Just be good. I'm not high on this casting, so I'll take good at this point rather than bad obviously. If he's epic and great that's amazing. This movie stakes ride on his shoulders unfortunately. Please deliver Jesse.
 
^ I dunno, there have been great movies with weak villains. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade comes to mind.
 
There is 0 chance this performance is put in the same ball park with Ledger. I don't think many are hoping for such epicness. Is Eisenberg even a method actor? People were excited with Ledger through the roof once they first heard his laugh in the trailer. This trailer has people already not fans of his interpretation. I just hope it's a good performance and not bad like some are predicting. Just be good. I'm not high on this casting, so I'll take good at this point rather than bad obviously. If he's epic and great that's amazing. This movie stakes ride on his shoulders unfortunately. Please deliver Jesse.

Eisenberg absolutely is a method actor (virtually every modern actor is) in the sense that he employs the techniques of Strasberg's method. The term "method" gets thrown around a lot and is often incorrectly associated with actors who change their physicality, voice, and/or mannerisms for a role (which does not necessarily equal a good performance and can even detract from a performance if it is not required).
 
^ I dunno, there have been great movies with weak villains. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade comes to mind.

GotG comes to mind, though a weak villain is not what I would aim for. Ultimately, those movies succeeded despite their villains, not because of. Regardless, I think Eisenberg will be great.
 
I didn't expect the quirky facade on top of him being the younger silicon valley rich businessman. I was thinking just a serious, manipulative, and cold Lex. Surprised they went this route and kind of hoping the comical facade portion, will not take up too much of his portrayal.
 
Eisenberg saying Lex is a real villain and that he's glad he's not a real person but he had no trouble getting into the role, tickles me.
 
^^ Indeed. Eisenberg also said that Luthor is "the best part he ever got to play"

[YT]/watch?v=o2lmJ8KrX0A&feature=youtu.be[/YT]

High compliments from an Oscar nominated actor.
 
Eisenberg absolutely is a method actor (virtually every modern actor is) in the sense that he employs the techniques of Strasberg's method. The term "method" gets thrown around a lot and is often incorrectly associated with actors who change their physicality, voice, and/or mannerisms for a role (which does not necessarily equal a good performance and can even detract from a performance if it is not required).

:up:
 
He seems like a very likable guy.
 
^^ Indeed. Eisenberg also said that Luthor is "the best part he ever got to play"

[YT]/watch?v=o2lmJ8KrX0A&feature=youtu.be[/YT]

High compliments from an Oscar nominated actor.
He actually seemed quite adorable in this vid.
 
I suppose that's the Luthor charm working its way before he stabs you in the back and spits on your corpse. :sly:
 
I suppose that's the Luthor charm working its way before he stabs you in the back and spits on your corpse. :sly:

Easy there lol

I want to see more bald Lex. How much screentime do you think bald lex will have in this movie? Things are pointing that it's minimal and near the end... but I really want more bald Lex.
 
I think it's possible that we do get a bit of Lex sans hair, and that going into the future Lex is done covering up his true self in more ways than one thus in future appearances Jesse will sport the chrome dome.
 
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