BvS Jesse Eisenberg IS Lex Luthor - Part 10

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kedrell said:
But we don't see his mouth actually say the words.
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Yes we do. We see him say it to the senator while he's in his office, holding a glass of whine and dressed in that trendy little cardigan, and we also see him say it while he's in a crowded hallway, full of people bustling around behind him. I imagine it's a catchphrase of his, or even a running gag.
 
No, it's actually the tone in which he says it both times. Listen to the CC trailer and then the new one and you'll hear the difference.
 
Jettisoned said:
Yes we do. We see him say it to the senator while he's in his office, holding a glass of whine and dressed in that trendy little cardigan, and we also see him say it while he's in a crowded hallway, full of people bustling around behind him. I imagine it's a catchphrase of his, or even a running gag.
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I'll check again just I thought the lip movement didn't exactly match what he was saying. This is common in trailers, BTW.
 
Angel0fDeath said:
No, it's actually the tone in which he says it both times. Listen to the CC trailer and then the new one and you'll hear the difference.
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They also use multiple takes in trailers. I'm sure he said that line more than once in different takes, even if he says it only once in the actual film.


See IJ:KotCS and the 'part time' comment by Indy.
 
kedrell said:
I'll check again just I thought the lip movement didn't exactly match what he was saying. This is common in trailers, BTW.
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You mean like the guy in the opening of the trailer that says "you must be new here" or whatever he says :woot:
 
kedrell said:
They also use multiple takes in trailers. I'm sure he said that line more than once in different takes, even if he says it only once in the actual film.


See IJ:KotCS and the 'part time' comment by Indy.
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Good point. Might be just that.
 
But they're completely different scenes. In this instance, it wouldn't merely be a case of alternate takes.
 
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BH/HHH said:
You mean like the guy in the opening of the trailer that says "you must be new here" or whatever he says :woot:
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I didn't focus on him very much as he's a bit player.
 
Because it wasn't a close up. With a close up it's easy to match lips to what you hear. Without the close up tough they can get away with all kinds of misdirection.
 
Yes it was a close up. Both ti-Are we watching completely different trailers here?
 
Jettisoned said:
Yes it was a close up. Both ti-Are we watching completely different trailers here?
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Which one are you using when you say this? I'm going off this newest one mostly and it was not a close up that would be of any help.
 
Jettisoned said:
Yes we do. We see him say it to the senator while he's in his office, holding a glass of whine and dressed in that trendy little cardigan, and we also see him say it while he's in a crowded hallway, full of people bustling around behind him. I imagine it's a catchphrase of his, or even a running gag.
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Angel0fDeath said:
No, it's actually the tone in which he says it both times. Listen to the CC trailer and then the new one and you'll hear the difference.
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Yeah, even the tone is different. Unless they cut out an entire scene, it does seem he's going to say it at least twice in the film. Once, in his goofy public persona and then in his serious tone at home.
 
BH/HHH said:
"That's a three syllable word for any thought too big for little minds."

If that line doesn't scream Lex Luthor than I don't know what does.
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I liked that one - but I was bothered by the mincing, squeaky, jokey tone of Eisenberg's earlier appearance. I have no idea what that characterization is trying to accomplish other than make Lex look like a total stooge.

I get that it's a new characterization, and it may work in context, but it's just a dumb way to start a trailer - especially since the dialogue seems a tad wonky.
 
Bruce Malone said:
I feel like Snyder saw Moriarty in the BBC Sherlock and felt that was the way to go with their Lex.

I liked that Moriarty, so far nothing I've seen from Lex gives me thought that i'll like this take of him.
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Yeah, but Moriarty was very austere and dry with his eccentricity - it's the bouncy flamboyance of that scene that bothers me.

It's just one scene, though - maybe he's mocking them or something, and it makes sense in context. I liked what we had previously seen from Luthor, in part because it was more like Moriarty.
 
Weren't there rumors awhile back that the scenes they were shooting at that location involve Bruce getting violent towards Lex?
 
KRYPTON INC. said:
The thing is... To me it's obvious that the "wink wink" going on in the first view of Luthor with Clark and Bruce, ISN'T to the audience. It's Luthor mooning our heroes. It's Luthor quite obviously playing the role of the smarmy jackass, but that's not who he is. He's not really trying to be this persona. It's a false front. The REST of the trailer, that dialog? Yeah, this is the genius, amoral Lex, people just have the IMAGE of Brown and Rosenbaum in their heads I think. But what he says:

"The oldest lie in America is that power is innocent."

"That's a three syllable word for any thought too big for little minds."

"Man cannot kill God... Then the Devil will do it."

Seriously... That feels NOTHING like Luthor to anyone else out there?
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Delivery is key.
 
Oh Jesus. :o
 
And then people would be complaining that they were the "safe and predictable" route, you can bank on that. And again, I point out the last trailer, where most of his dialogue was much more creepy/sinister, as was his line to Lois here. So people, surprise surprise for fanboys, are making A LOT of assumptions.

This seems to be a movie where "dual identities" is a running theme, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if Lex has one as well, in a sense.
 
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