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Jim Starlins Death of the New Gods

Since you asked Spike x1, I know this is just a little conversation you and I are having, I got that definition of the word exclamation from Websters expanded dictionary for home, school or office.

Yes, you would use exclamation points anytime emotion, shouting, passion are being expressed, because it is the appropriate punctuation. But for clarification purposes, especially when writing or in this case typing on the internet, it is common knowledge and internet etiquette that capitals are used to indicate shouting.

The use of exclamations on the internet doesn't automatically indicate shouting, it could be confusing, as a result conversations like this very one, but capitals leave absolutely no doubt.
I still don't believe a word of that. How would you indicate that you are using an exclamation mark unless you're writing it out? Would you vocalize the fact that you're using the punctuation; "I like muffins, Exclamation mark."

I have never seen a book or other form of writing outside of the Internet to use capital letters to indicate that shouting is taking place. In fact, it seems to violate the rules that govern capitalization in English grammar (to be used at the start of a sentence, name, place, etc). Yes, capitals do give the impression of shouting on the internet (at the cost of bad punctuation), but so do exclamation points, and I haven't seen any definition to the contrary (I have the Gage Dictionary, dictionary.com, and the Oxford Concise Dictionary of Literary Terms here, and none of their definitions for "capitalization" or "exclamation" are in line with what you're saying). The point is that, no matter what form of writing you're using, exclamation marks do indicate that you're yelling, and not that the statement is meant to be sincere or whatever. Just use a period if you want sincerity to come across.
 
Spike x1, please understand I'm not agruing with you, on the internet I've been on many sites where someone typed in capitals and the other posters always asked them why they were shouting. It's understood on the internet, as soon as someone see capitals they know what it means.

Websters gives a passionate sentence as a definition for the word exclamation, so it doesn't necessarily mean someone is shouting. That definition would apply in my case because I wasn't, I was passionate about what I was sharing, but I wasn't shouting.

We all read comics, look at the many different uses for exclamations, it doesn't just mean shouting, in fact exclamations could be used to express a whole range of emotions! With the written word, the use of exclamations is the only appropriate way to express many of these different emotions.

Please know, I'm just another comic book lover sharing his opinion and I don't have a reason to shout at anyone!
 
Clearly you don't love comic books enough to read them before passing judgment on them.
 
I'm not concentrating on the actual comic book!

My disagreement is with the act of going against Kirbys wishes and eliminating his creations!
 
But they haven't eliminated them, wtf are you talking about?
 
You know you shouldn't, and it could get infected, but it's just too much fun.
 
Kerbyfan, while I won't even bother bringing up the fact that comic books have never been known for their adherence to rules of grammar and punctuation, I will point out that that the emotion behind an exclamation mark has never been the matter of issue with me; it's the fact that the punctuation indicates a burst of emotion, whether it's sadness, anger, whatever. So far, I have been using "shout" as a generalization of an exclamation point's usage, but you can even whisper something that would end in an exclamation mark in writing (ie: "My God!" is a whispered phrase seen often enough in fiction).

If you wrote an essay or a novel with exclamation marks only indicating sincerity ("I'm not shouting! I'm only being sincere!"), then you had better expect a lot of criticism to come your way regarding your writing, no matter how much you think that your usage of the punctuation is "common knowledge." If you don't want people to think that you're just randomly yelling like a crazy homeless person, then just use a period.
 
I'm not concentrating on the actual comic book!

My disagreement is with the act of going against Kirbys wishes and eliminating his creations!
So you don't care about whether the story is good, you care only about continuity and your favorite characters and your favorite creators.

Are you, like, some mystically-spawned avatar of all that is wrong with comic-book fans?
 
He's the physical embodiment of ignorant fanboyism?
 
I think he might be! Or perhaps the internet embodiment of it. We don't have any proof that he really exists in physical space. He could well be a ghost in the machine, an Onslaught-type manifestation of the worst parts of all of our comic-book-fan consciousnesses!
 
Has there been any mention of what connection, if any, there will be between the New Gods' Fifth World incarnations and the fifth-dimensional imps like Mxyzptlk, Qwsp, and the Thunderbolt?
 
Has there been any mention of what connection, if any, there will be between the New Gods' Fifth World incarnations and the fifth-dimensional imps like Mxyzptlk, Qwsp, and the Thunderbolt?
Bat-Mite will rule over all.
 
Kerbyfan, while I won't even bother bringing up the fact that comic books have never been known for their adherence to rules of grammar and punctuation, I will point out that that the emotion behind an exclamation mark has never been the matter of issue with me; it's the fact that the punctuation indicates a burst of emotion, whether it's sadness, anger, whatever. So far, I have been using "shout" as a generalization of an exclamation point's usage, but you can even whisper something that would end in an exclamation mark in writing (ie: "My God!" is a whispered phrase seen often enough in fiction).

If you wrote an essay or a novel with exclamation marks only indicating sincerity ("I'm not shouting! I'm only being sincere!"), then you had better expect a lot of criticism to come your way regarding your writing, no matter how much you think that your usage of the punctuation is "common knowledge." If you don't want people to think that you're just randomly yelling like a crazy homeless person, then just use a period.

Correct, well put old boy
 
Guys, think whatever you like, call me whatever you like, and criticize me all you like, that's your opinion!

But what I've shared with you is nothing but the truth, and it's very simple, using exclamations doesn't just mean shouting!

Now whatever you want to think is up to you!

From the beginning I've said shame on DC for getting rid of Kirbys creations, it was never about the actual comic book, It's about totally disrespecting the Kings creations by eliminating them! Some new version is not what Kirby created!
 
Superman's not currently the same as what Siegel and Shuster created, either. Batman's not the same as what Finger and Kane created. Very few heroes, in fact, are currently the exact same as what their creators created. It's the nature of the medium for concepts and characters to change and evolve over time.
 
You can either deal with it, or stick to reading novels.
 
The Corpulent1, to a degree I understand what you are saying, but did they ever totally eliminate Batman, superman, and then come back with some totally new and totally different version?

Sure they changed the costume temporarily, changed the hair temporarily, but even to this day Batman and Superman still look basically the same they did back in the 40s and 50s. They are still the characters that Cane, Shuster and Siegel created!

Now when we see these new versions of the New Gods will we automatically recognize them as the characters Jack Kirby created?

Now if this is all temporary and Jack Kirbys characters are coming back then ok, but if not?
 
Bat's and Supes look the same, but they certainly don't act the same. Supes used to fight for the little man, beat up slum lords and corrupt politicians. Throw wife beaters outta windows. Now? He's a completely different person. Don't even get started on Batman who used to carry a gun and kill people.
 
Anubis, I have no problem with personality changes or weapon changes or whatever. I have a problem with totally eliminating a persons creation, especially if that person didn't want that!
 
The Corpulent1, to a degree I understand what you are saying, but did they ever totally eliminate Batman, superman, and then come back with some totally new and totally different one?

Sure they changed the costume, changed the hair, but even to this day Batman and Superman still look basically the same they did back in the 40s and 50s. They are still the characters that Cane, Shuster and Siegel created!

Now when we see these new versions of the New Gods will we automatically recognize them as the characters Jack Kirby created?


Yah
 

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