JLA vs. The X-men

JLA vs. The X-men

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Basically this fight would go to JLA if the threadmaker had not put in Phoenix and Magneto. Since Phoenix can pretty much play with their molecules and dispell them from existence...it's a pretty silly fight. Take out Phoenix and remove Magneto and have the JLA fight an actual incarnation of the X-Men that isn't part of some specific storyarc (like the Phoenix Saga)...and, yeah, they lose.
 
Im a Marvel fan but both teams at full potential or not JLA wins Superman and martian manhunter are just too powerful. thats DC problem they designed their heroes far to strong thats why supes has not got a villain worthy to take him on intelligently AND physically except Darkside and he has been taken out of the DC closet and beaten far to often as that he is starting to look foolish. This is why Batman is DC most popular asset he has interesting villains and is constently tested in his stories. Marvel has more interesting heroes AND villains period imo.
 
Why magneto? Sorry I don't read X-men so whatextreme advantage does he have?
 
No, it's a fact that mutants like Vulcan, Phoenix, Iceman and Kid Omega are more powerful than Superman, Wonder Woman or Flash.

Phoenix alone can rearrange molecules and dispell forms of matter, Superman, Wonder Woman and Flash simply being living things composed of matter puts them at a disadvantage they won't be able to overcome.

Iceman controls all forms of matter. Simply with a thought can freeze someone's internal fluids, and potentially even (as it's been shown) halt the movement of matter...potentially at the molecular level.

Magneto is omega level. Can resist forms of mental manipulation and controls the entirity of the electromagnetic spectrum.

Vulcan controls ALL forms of energy. Again, simply existing in a physical universe puts them at a tactical disadvantage.

You're speaking from ignorance of the X-Men's capabilities, not person opinion.

Phoenix won't be a problem. The Specter will deal with her

It's laughable that Vulcan or Kid Omega won't even last more then 5 seconds against The Phantom Stranger. If people insist on stacking the deck against the JLA by adding these so called god like mutants, I'm going to throw in good guys like The Specter and Phantom Stranger to help the JLA.

Kid Omega is dead, and i've never seen him do anything in the comics that would show he would crush Superman like an ant, but truth be told i know little about the character, save he led that riot at the school and he was brought back to life in that Phoenix end song series. To much of the Xmen are incosistent.

Why would Vulcan be on the xteam? Isn't he a villian. Yeah he can control energy, but he has limits and has said so. I don't even see him taking out Flash. He another overrated mutant and is 0 interesting.

When did Iceman get the power to control all forms of matter? Is that a secondary mutation? Good Lord that's stupid. I've been reading the latest issues and if he was so damn powerful, he should have been able to stop the attack by Mystique and her gang in the Endangered Species storyline. Yeah Mystique kissed him with some ridiculas neural inhibitor lipstick, which cut his powers, but if he can now contol matter, he should have been able to deal with the lipstick, since it was slowing his powers down. Another incosistant mutant that marvel is good for. at least DC pretty much keep their characters understandable and doesn't try to make them do god like.

Phoenix just needs to be done away with. How many stories are marvel going to come up with for this character. For the love of god just bring back regular mutant Jean Grey with her telepathy and tk. Wasn't the Phoenix in those Stepford girls? That god like stuff is just over the top. The Phoenix saga was good, but Marvel just recton shyt to death. Anytime these writers make a character where they say can beat God, i just lose interest. I believe in God and while I won't get into it, it's just disrespectful when they try and say, "Oh this new human born character has become so powerful, they can kick God, The Angels and Jesus's @sses and take over heaven. Give me a d@mn break.
 
Basically this fight would go to JLA if the threadmaker had not put in Phoenix and Magneto. Since Phoenix can pretty much play with their molecules and dispell them from existence...it's a pretty silly fight. Take out Phoenix and remove Magneto and have the JLA fight an actual incarnation of the X-Men that isn't part of some specific storyarc (like the Phoenix Saga)...and, yeah, they lose.

Well the Phoenix will be busy dealing with the Specter, in which she will have a lot to answer for after killing billions.

I'm not convinced a 100 percent convinced that Magneto can beat Superman. Besides Magneto will be hard pressed trying to fight off The Phantom Stranger.

If the topic starter is going to stack the decks against the JLA by adding fully powered Dark Phoenix and i guess magneto (although I'm sure Supes can take him) I'm going to to give the JLA The Specter and Phantom Stranger.
 
so why can Magneto defeat superman? I am pretty sure the term man of steel is just a title.
But seriously why, I am playing it out in my head and I can't see it happening.
 
The Spectre is not invincible. Hal as Parallax defeated the Spectre in head on battle. Phoenix is at least as powerful, and I personally think, much more powerful. The power of the Phantom Stranger is variable. Sometimes he is very powerful and sometimes essentially powerless.
 
I'm sorry but whoever thinks Superman is stronger than the Phoenix is a bit ******ed.
 
so why can Magneto defeat superman? I am pretty sure the term man of steel is just a title.
But seriously why, I am playing it out in my head and I can't see it happening.

Doctor Polaris, who is pretty much a dime store Magneto, almost defeated the entire JLA.
 
Doctor Polaris, who is pretty much a dime store Magneto, almost defeated the entire JLA.

And Spidey almost defeated the X-Men...given the experience of dealing with Dr. Polaris, I'm sure they've learned from it and developed some way of dealing with a similar circumstance in the future.

...I'll stand by my original post and say that Flash ends this before ANYONE even realizes its started. None of the X-Men would have an opportunity to do anything, even Psionic attacks because he moves faster than thought.
 
That's true, but she's a really powerful emo ****. If the JLA had Kyle in his first incarnation as Ion, he and Phoenix would probably lock horns indefinitely. But since the thread starter didn't include Ion, Phoenix could rock the JLA all by her lonesome.
Martian Manhunter and Superman are superhumanly fast. Wonder Woman, however, I think only possesses superhuman flight...I don't believe she can "move" at superhuman speeds. She is more or less like Heracles with flight abilities.
You're wrong. Wonder Woman has super-speed.
 
Since Phoenix can pretty much play with their molecules and dispell them from existence...it's a pretty silly fight.

We don't know if that would work on Superman seeing as he has a super-aura all around his body that even goes as far as to prevent his clothes from getting ripped. And if you really want it to get silly, then how about Superman punches a hole through reality?

Phoenix: Now behold as I disperse your molecu---- *stops existing*

Of course, it really depends on what Superman and Phoenix's power levels are at the time. To be fair, I think a good fight between the JLA and the X-Men should include neither Phoenix or Superman. They are both far too powerful.
 
Well the Phoenix will be busy dealing with the Specter, in which she will have a lot to answer for after killing billions.

I'm not convinced a 100 percent convinced that Magneto can beat Superman. Besides Magneto will be hard pressed trying to fight off The Phantom Stranger.

If the topic starter is going to stack the decks against the JLA by adding fully powered Dark Phoenix and i guess magneto (although I'm sure Supes can take him) I'm going to to give the JLA The Specter and Phantom Stranger.
Yeah, well they aren't on the league...so no:huh:
 
We don't know if that would work on Superman seeing as he has a super-aura all around his body that even goes as far as to prevent his clothes from getting ripped. And if you really want it to get silly, then how about Superman punches a hole through reality?

Phoenix: Now behold as I disperse your molecu---- *stops existing*
Not, she'd kill him. She survived a trip into the sun, ate an entire star system, killed a fleet of Shi'ar cruisers and even has been said to have the ability to eat the entire Universe. And Superman's bio aura is still composed of molecules.

No earth, no sun, no Superman.
Of course, it really depends on what Superman and Phoenix's power levels are at the time. To be fair, I think a good fight between the JLA and the X-Men should include neither Phoenix or Superman. They are both far too powerful.
I agree it shouldn't include Phoenix. Superman though, is kind of a league staple, unlike Phoenix who is more of a storyarc specific character.
 
So we all agree: the X-Men lose.
Basically.
fifthfiend said:
Um, what? No it's not.
It's energy, therefore it's composed of molecules and or atoms...any form of matter, plasma and heat included, is composed of molecules and or atoms.

Therefore it could be deconstructed by Phoenix.

...and before you say that molecules technically are bonded atoms, we still say that Noble gases (which have single bonds) have molecules.
 
Dude Superman's field is tactile telekinesis, which would be made out of whatever it is telekinesis is made of, presumably some unique form of subatomic particle or radiation. Hell, if Superman's protective field were made out of molecules then the same would have to go for all of the Phoenix's powers.
 
Dude Superman's field is tactile telekinesis, which would be made out of whatever it is telekinesis is made of, presumably some form of subatomic particle.

And Pheonix's ability to control atoms is super charged telekinesis. She can out-telekinesis Superman.
 

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