JLA vs. The X-men

[Cnoflow]

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Man this has gotten funny.

First off let me say that yes the JLA does outmatch the x-men in speed, however this doesn't mean anything. They've been superheros long enough and have fought the extremley fast long enough to know how to del with it. They have attack patterns just like the JLA and you have to remember that this isn't going to be a 1 on 1 match. It's team vs. team. That's one of the reaons that the X-men win so many fights. For those of you who read the comics u know that the X-men pride themselves on fighting as a team. I could probaly say the same thing for the JLA too. So it would be an interesting fight, but . . .

I don't care how smart u think batman is he's gonna get his but whipped. . . especially if he goes up against wolverine. Now i'm not a hardcore wolverine fan, frankly i prefer most other x-men over him, but if you think that Batman's precious preptime is gonna help him then you're sadly mistaken.

Remember that they are not going to go head to head. If anything they might go 2 on two and combine their powers.

p.s. the X-men outclass the JLA anyday.

 

[Varient]

Originally posted by Docker
Who would win? Batman, Wonderwoman, Superman, Martian Manhunter, the Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkgirl, Green Arrow, and Aquaman as the JLA. Versus Cyclops, Wolverine, Rogue, Storm, Jean Grey(With the Phoenix), Colossus, Bishop, Gambit, and Magneto(he is an unactive member). Who would win? Vote!

I hat to say this with all the pro Marvel fanboys out there,..but facts are facts,..The JLA would stomp the X-men mostly becuase the powers and abilities of it's members are all more powerful than the marvel equivalnts with exception of Aquaman / Namor.
You need the Avengers or the complete Roster of the Defenders to even have a chance.

The Xmen,..While powerful can be easily contained together under the right circumstances, as proof I offer the issue of extreme Xmen where most of the team were held by the "french" government?

In the same,..Under the same circumstances, France would be hard pressed to hold Lantern, ManHunter, or Supes,....let alone Wonder Woman and plastic man.

We really are talking different powerlevels here.

 

[Varient]

Originally posted by Docker
Are the X-men losing becuase this is a DC board or becuase it is the truth?

Truth.

Seriously consider that the only "DC class characters on the Xmen's team are Rouge ala Extreme Xmen, and "eat stars" version of Jean Gray.
The rest could be taken by Superman or Green lantern or The martian Manhunter by themselves.

IMHO Marvel's heroes follow more closely most of the basic laws of physics as we understand them,...
DC tends to go the "just So" approach to superheroes.

As such a light based creature in DC universe can clean superman's clock becuase all the properties of light are given to the creature with a very high level of power and ease of manipulation,
Where say "Photon" would be lucky to singe his cape becuase Marvel ties in stuff like fatigue and limiting her powers by her own bodymass.

I hope that made sense.
Peace.

 

[Varient]

Originally posted by guyverjay
Rogue would NOT take wonder woman.

While I do agree that prof X would take out MM,you can't base your decision on the crappy JLA cartoon. That show is a joke.

The only chance the X-men have is phoenix and the prof the rest are a non factor. The JLA are just too powerful.

That said I belive the phoenix could take them out by herself.

I agree.
That cartoon was a joke.

All the heroes are underpowered to make for more interesting adventures,..just Like Xmen "Evolution"

Based on the cartoon,..the Xmen would Whup the JLA.
Based on the comics,.....
Sorry but there is just too much power within the JLA for the xmen to even have a chance,...........

Unless they get first licks.

Peace

 

[Nathan]

I'm a huge Marvel and X-Men Fan, but I say the JLA would win.

 

[thanos27]

ok my thoughts ..... wolverine going beserk n not held back by prof. x or any other xman would rip batman to pieces . this man has fought the hulk n wendigo several times and held his own , actually even beating the immortal wendigo . all this even before his training at xaviers danger room n before he was part of the xmen . would batman even have a chance at either of these two ??? i think not ~

second storm would create a fog n storm so thick the clouds would block the sun weakening superman at a high rate ...
magneto would rip into any human with blood ..... robin ... green arrow ...hawkgirl(joke).... prof x would erase their brains at will . we r talking no holding back now . green lantern wouldnt know what hit him . force field or not . n if prof x couldnt reach him phoenix would dig deep into his cerebellum n make him think his own team is the enemy !!!!!!!!!!!!

iceman did we forget abt him ??? well lets say 10,000 razor sharp spikes of ice going a 100 miles an hour at any remaining jla member should cut them down . flash as fast as he is cant run when his brain tells him to freeze frame !! cyclops nightcrawler beast gambit colossus n rogue would be able to take care of any small time jla bums ..green arrow ??(poor mans hawkeye )

phoenix unleashing her full power is on a cosmic level . she has consumed a planet with 4 billion inhabitants . n at no time , unlike galactus who only with help of his machines can speed up this pace . now if we talk dark phoenix she would wipe out the entire jla team with a blink ....as she wiped out the entire team of the imperial guard including gladiator in 1 sec flat .

jla might have speed , but remember speed is nothing when u r against mind control power so intense it can fry your brain cells to a pulp !



hold on ...its me
wait ...how do we know its you ??

your a "richard "!!!

 

[Cnoflow]

Ya the fight isn't fair with professor X in the mix i'm gonna say that he shouldn't fight cause he could kill everbody at the blink of eye.

 

[Hulkophile]

Batman, Wonderwoman, Superman, Martian Manhunter, the Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkgirl, Green Arrow, and Aquaman as the JLA. Versus Cyclops, Wolverine, Rogue, Storm, Jean Grey(With the Phoenix), Colossus, Bishop, Gambit, and Magneto(he is an unactive member). Who would win? Vote!

Okay. So, when you say "Jean Grey (With the Phoenix)", does that mean her current status in the comic or the actual Phoenix Force? If it's the Phoenix Force, the X-Men should have no trouble wrapping up this fight. Currently (haven't bought the recent "New X-Men"), I don't think Jean possess much of the PF. There've been some fire shown, assuming the PF is coming back to her, but I haven't seen much from her to consider her an extreme threat in this fight. I just don't see JLA having too much trouble.

When it comes to strength, JLA mops the floor spit-shine with the X-Men. Magneto would be the X-Men's only hope, but I think Supes, MM, Flash, and Green Lantern should be able to break through most, if not all, the defense Mags puts up. I just don't see the X-Men beating this JLA team UNLESS Jean possess the Phoenix Force at its full potential.

 

[Rakkasei]

ONE member of the x-men could get rid of quite a few jla members by herself.... Strom calls thunder... thunder strikes BOOM! no more flash, no more batman, most probably a very hurt hawkgirl, and the others would be affected too... and i don't know whether or not ww is physucally stronger than Rogue, but rogue still has her absorbsion power and the way WW dresses... Rogue won't have any trouble touching her skin... plus if Rogue has the powers she has in the comics before she temporarily lost them, she could probably take on the whole jla by herself... as Rogue could use the powers of anyone she ever touched in the past SIMULTANEOUSLY!

i agree that many x-men could get wiped out... wolverine, cyclops, shadowcat, jubilee, iceman... but 4 x-men could take the jla by themselves...

Prof X
Jean Grey as Pheonix 3
Storm
Rogue...

the jla may be powerful, but they can't do all that much agains those... Prof X and Jean mentally stops those they can, Ororo fries them and Rogue takes care of those left unharmed by the lightning or those not too badly hurt...

 

[Hulkophile]

Against that X-team, sure. But I doubt loud booms of thunder will do much other than deafen a few people. I'm sure lightning would have more effect .

The X-Men's only hope would be a suped up Jean and Xavier. Without them, JLA walks right over them.

 

[Varient]

Originally posted by Rakkasei
ONE member of the x-men could get rid of quite a few jla members by herself.... Strom calls thunder... thunder strikes BOOM! no more flash, no more batman, most probably a very hurt hawkgirl, and the others would be affected too...

STOP:
You going by that silly cartoon ain't you?

Storm would get one shot at the lightning trick and would miss the flash,..If he can dodge that mess from the weather wizard,..howcum Storm can catch him with it?

and i don't know whether or not ww is physucally stronger than Rogue, but rogue still has her absorbsion power and the way WW dresses... Rogue won't have any trouble touching her skin... plus if Rogue has the powers she has in the comics before she temporarily lost them, she could probably take on the whole jla by herself... as Rogue could use the powers of anyone she ever touched in the past SIMULTANEOUSLY!

She doesn't but lets say she does. Doesn't her absorbtion powers as far as powers are concerned limited to powers are "natural?"
Wonder Woman to be brutal was "Clay brought to Life by Godlike levels of Magic,..the Ultimate Golem. I've yet to see Rogue absorb "magical" powers or powers based on magic.
Even with everybody she's touched Dianas the better fighter.

i agree that many x-men could get wiped out... wolverine, cyclops, shadowcat, jubilee, iceman... but 4 x-men could take the jla by themselves...

Prof X
Superman has resisted Gorilla Grodd and Hank Hammond, (Brainwave) telepaths who have taken control of CITIES. The Martian Manhunter is an Active Telepath who can serve as a conduit for the team in a fight,..Professor X is out of practice.

Jean Grey as Pheonix 3
Only with Prep time - given the nature of the threat the three fastests in the JLA woiuld probaly have her down before she goes there.

Storm
Rogue...
Covered above.

the jla may be powerful, but they can't do all that much agains those... Prof X and Jean mentally stops those they can, Ororo fries them and Rogue takes care of those left unharmed by the lightning or those not too badly hurt...

(Chuckle)

 

[Outsiderzedge]

Originally posted by Captain America
Wow, this is would be one hell of a Brawl. Here's the best I could match them up.

Round 1
Cyclops vs. Aquaman = Cyclops
Wolverine vs. Batman = Batman
Rogue vs. Wonder Woman = Rogue
Storm vs. Hawkgirl = Storm
Jean Grey (Phoenix) vs. Martian Manhunter = Jean Grey
Colossus vs. Superman = Superman
Bishop vs. The Flash = The Flash
Gambit vs. Green Arrow = Gambit
Magneto vs. Green Lantern = Green Lantern

Round 2
Cyclops vs. Batman = Batman
Rogue vs. The Flash = The Flash
Storm/Gambit vs. Superman = Superman
Jean Grey vs. Green Lantern = Jean Grey

Round 3
Batman/The Flash/Superman vs. Jean Grey = JLA

Sorry I didn't give any good explanations, i'm tired and don't feel like typing out Paragraphs.

First of all , I dont think 2 groups of people who make a habit of fighting together would suddenly start pairing off and fighting 1 on 1 instead of in a group but... How about this:

Round 1
Cyclops vs. Aquaman = Cyclops
Wolverine vs. Batman = No one - both survive the round
Colossus vs. Wonder Woman = Wonder Woman
Storm vs. Hawkgirl = Storm
Jean Grey (Phoenix) vs. Superman = Jean Grey
Rogue (w/Miss Marvel's powers) vs. Martian Manhunter = Rogue
Bishop vs. The Flash = The Flash
Gambit vs. Green Arrow = Gambit
Magneto vs. Green Lantern = Green Lantern

Round 2
Jean Grey (Phoenix) vs. Green Lantern = Jean Grey
Rogue vs. Wonder Woman = Rogue
Storm/Cyclops/Gambit vs. The Flash = Storm
Wolverine vs. Batman = No one - both survive the round

Round 3
Jean Grey/Rogue/Storm/Wolverine vs. Batman = Batman (after staying out of Wolverine's reach and observing the other fights, gains an insight on how to defeat the X-men and does so. Afterall , its all about prep time and thats what Round 1 and 2 gave him...)

I guess JLA wins any way you slice it...

 

[Outsiderzedge]

Round 1
Cyclops vs. Aquaman = Cyclops
Wolverine vs. Batman = No one - both survive the round
Colossus vs. Wonder Woman = Wonder Woman
Storm vs. Hawkgirl = Storm
Prof X (in mental practice) vs. Superman = Prof X
Rogue (w/Miss Marvel's powers) vs. Martian Manhunter = Rogue
Quicksilver (called in by his daddy) vs. The Flash = Quicksilver
Iceman vs. Green Arrow = Iceman
Magneto vs. Green Lantern = No one - both survive the round

Round 2
Prof X & Magneto vs. Green Lantern = Prof X & Magneto
Rogue/Storm/Cyclops/Iceman/Quicksilver vs. Wonder Woman = Rogue/Storm/Cyclops/Iceman/Quicksilver
Wolverine vs. Batman = No one - both survive the round

Round 3
Prof X/Magneto/Rogue/Storm/Cyclops/Iceman/Quicksilver/Wolverine vs. Batman = X-men yay!

 

[Thing]

voted X-Men because I think they could take any of the JLA characters other than Superman, but Professor X got him.

 

[The Batman]

I just thought of Something.....Proffeser X dosent count. unless hes in combat everytime the X-Men fight somebody, he's out. Trying to cheat, eh?

 

[The Batman]

and plus...Superman would just blow him out of his wheelchair before he can blink. Superman does have Super-speed, and Professor X can NOT think at the speed of light.

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by The Batman
I just thought of Something.....Proffeser X dosent count. unless hes in combat everytime the X-Men fight somebody, he's out. Trying to cheat, eh?

Stop being foolish

 

[Cnoflow]

That's true he can only think at the speed of Mach 3. Supes got him there.

 

[The Batman]

Superman would blow him away...or Flash would take him out...or Martian Manhunter would block his telepathy, not for long, but long enough for Flash to take him out in a blink of an eye....

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by The Batman
Superman would blow him away...or Flash would take him out...or Martian Manhunter would block his telepathy, not for long, but long enough for Flash to take him out in a blink of an eye....

Sure he would

Because Prox X actually has to be on the battlefield in his wheel chair to use his powers

Martian manhunter blocking his power??? please don't make me laugh

What are they giong to against the phoenix? a COSMIC level telepath??

One word: NOTHING

 

[The Batman]

easy: Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter. All whove gone against threats much worse than Phenix.

Dont underestimate Post-Crisis Superman. He wrestled a friggin Angel for god sakes....


JLA still wins.

 

[The Batman]

Originally posted by guyverjay
Sure he would

Because Prox X actually has to be on the battlefield in his wheel chair to use his powers

Martian manhunter blocking his power??? please don't make me laugh

What are they giong to against the phoenix? a COSMIC level telepath??

One word: NOTHING

and for one thing, you dont know how strong MM's telpathy is...and plus, i said TEMPORARILY

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by The Batman
easy: Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter. All whove gone against threats much worse than Phenix.

Dont underestimate Post-Crisis Superman. He wrestled a friggin Angel for god sakes....


JLA still wins.

OOOhhh an angel

Physical strength won't help against the phoenix, do some home work on the Phoenix force and then come back

 

[The Batman]

do some homework on some DC heroes and come back....


dont tell me anything about homework, i was around to actully READ the Dark Phoenix saga while you werent even born yet.

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by The Batman
do some homework on some DC heroes and come back....


dont tell me anything about homework, i was around to actully READ the Dark Phoenix saga while you werent even born yet.

Yeah mate

You're so stupid Batman , no wonder everyone thinks you suck