JLA vs. The X-men

[Flash Facts]

Dude, If Vision couldn't get through Maggy's shields, how is Flash?

Maggs could possibly waste the entire JLA.

The Flash doesn't necessarily even have to phase though his shields, he can use his speed to break it like he did to Mota. He probably can just phase through though as his shield are still just moving particles which the Flash can get through. Then theres the whole special relativity/unified theory approach but I won't go there.


Edit: As cool as Batman is I doubt he can take the X-men all by his lonesome.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Magneto's shields are pure energy not particles. No solid matter in them to phase through.

 

[Flash Facts]

Matter and energy are both just moving particles. In a magnetic fields case electrons.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah cause he did such a bang up job wasting the X-men.

He beat the X-Men (Cyclops, Colossus, Storm, Beast, Banshee, Nightcrawler, Wolverine and Phoenix) during the 1980s. Beat the New Mutants. Beat the X-Men again in the early 90s, and again during the "Fatal Attractions" crossover.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The Flash has sped himself up to slip between the flickers in an energy field, too.

 

[souloffire]

He beat the X-Men (Cyclops, Colossus, Storm, Beast, Banshee, Nightcrawler, Wolverine and Phoenix) during the 1980s. Beat the New Mutants. Beat the X-Men again in the early 90s, and again during the "Fatal Attractions" crossover.

So that would give Magneto 4 and the X-men 1,000.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I'm going to stick to the path less traveled and say that Batman, with preptime and money, could beat all of the X-men by himself. This need not be done one at a time; he could beat them all simultaneously, all by himself. The rest of the JLA are just gravy.

But then again, every member of the X-men could beat Hal Jordan, even that guy in the wheelchair. What does 'Wheelie' even do anyways?

I've never heard that before.

 

[CaptainClown]

batman would make his own anti-mutant sentinel the bat sentinel then invade Dr. Dooms lair and beat him up and make some Bat/doom armor then beat up iron man and add on to that and create the ultimate mutant destroyer! Then phoenix would wipe him out of the marvel universe.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Dude, If Vision couldn't get through Maggy's shields, how is Flash?

Maggs could possibly waste the entire JLA.

Well, Vision for one is a synthetically constructed being...so his abilities to control his density (so basically like a robot powering one of its functions) and being unable to go through Magneto's shield is one thing, while the Flash has the Speed Force which is an entirely different concept; which is in itself basically a force of nature. Wouldn't be a shock if Flash, especially Wally, would be able to triumph such a feat being so in tune with the Speed Force.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Plus, we've already covered the fact that a speedster wouldn't even need to get through Magneto's force field to potentially pwn him.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Nice Avy Corp, where is that from?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Last episode of Justice League Unlimited. It's Superman cutting loose against Darkseid without holding back.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Awesome

 

[trustyside-kick]

Plus, we've already covered the fact that a speedster wouldn't even need to get through Magneto's force field to potentially pwn him.

Yea, and I'm not trying to say "omg the JLA wins lololol pwnt ;D" or anything, because there are factors (although would be best if Phoenix was not there and the teams were better set up). I just think Magneto is being set way too high up there.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

So that would give Magneto 4 and the X-men 1,000.

Not really, Magneto poses a pretty decent threat everytime they've fought. There aren't that many occasions where the X-Men have definitively beat him. Usually he just flys off after his plans are foiled.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It usually counts as a win when your opponent runs away.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Also what I love are the past few pages praising Magneto, talking how he would own the JLA single handedly.

Okay, then. Let's play along with that scenario with "omnipotent" Magneto. And let's also say that the Flash cannot quite break through his shield (even though that isn't the only chance for the JLA to beat Magneto ). But you are telling me that he is not going to have to break a sweat trying to keep his shield together while The Flash does this and keeping the other JLAers at bay with attacks and such?

...B**** please.

 

[CaptainClown]

Ya, they are making out Magneto to be this demigod.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That's true, his powers are psi-based, so they all depend on his ability to concentrate. Match him up against a GL and it becomes a contest of wills. I think a GL ought to have at least as much willpower as Mags. Then you throw in the force of every blow Superman, Wonder Woman, and the Martian Manhunter lay down on Mags' shield, plus the combined telepathic might of the Martian Manhunter and Aquaman, plus whatever Batman comes up with. Saying Magneto could take the JLA all by his lonesome is a bit of a stretch.

 

[CaptainClown]

I think he would be driven crazy by flash though. Not exactly the hero you want to fight especially if he is a smack talker and moving around like the village idiot

 

[souloffire]

Magneto has been beat by a team who has a guy that throws snowballs, so saying he could wipe out the JLA is a bit of a stretch.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Hahahaha, nice.

 

[Eros]

Magneto has been beat by a team who has a guy that throws snowballs, so saying he could wipe out the JLA is a bit of a stretch.

you shouldn't bring up weird silver age things, becuse DC has alot of them to.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but their weird Silver Age things usually involve their heroes being even more powerful than they are now.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Oh, and in reference to someone bringing up the Polaris VS JLA fight, that was for a couple of reasons:

1) They went in without a plan because Kyle swore he knew what he was doing, thinking he could talk down Polaris because he was aware of his mental condition; not listening to the reasoning of Batman to take it more seriously.

2) Polaris literally became the South Pole of the Earth. He moved, the Earth move/rotated/shifted. He had one hell of a power boost being in the South Pole and becoming one with it.

3) Buried beneath the ice was a "graveyard" of old machinery, ships, etc. Perfect setting. As he said, about a billion cubic tons of metal to throw at his leisure to the likes of even Superman and knock him back.

But out of all the JLAers, who was he unable to do anything against? And I'm not talking about Plastic Man who helped with the victory to this scenario. It was the Flash. And then you guys had a whole huge debate about basically Magneto VS the Flash. I'm not saying that The Flash is the key or only hope, but all you guys saying Polaris beat the JLA, therefore Mags can, is total bs because of the circumstances of that fight; even the the Flash wasn't taken down. Magneto is powerful, yes...but has he ever become the South Pole, to where if he moves a foot, the Earth itself moves? I don't recall reading so.