JLA vs. The X-men

[Silicon Surfer]

The JLA once got taken out and enslaved by a starfish.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Ah, the good old Silver Age days.

I believe the Teen Titans are going to go up against Starro sometime soon.

 

[Nokio]

Not sure exactly how related this will be to your current discusion. BUT, there is much about the human mind controlling the human bodies functions etc. that modern medicine knows very little about.

I can't remember exactly what show it was but it was on the Discovery channel a few years ago and some scientist or host or whatever was travelling around the world studying different cultures I can't remember exactly what the purpose was.

But he spent some time with the Shao Lin Monks (sp) and as I am sure many of you have seen their demonstrations of control over their bodies and being able to withstand their bodies being pierced with swords while they bend them against their skin etc. (Although I am sure many are skeptic about this and would relate it to something along the lines of walking on hot coals or laying on a bed of nails, more about physics than actualy body manipulation).

Anyway, what did really interest me was that the monks would practice a specific technique where they would wrap their upper bodies in wet sheets and then meditate. They would literally dry the sheets with the bodies. They raised their body temperatures high enough so the film crew could actually see steam comming off the sheets draped over them.

Very interesting, and while I'm agreement with you on your post why would Xavier automatically know how to do this stuff? Just becuase he can read and control minds does not give him some mutant insight on the entire human brain. The human brain according to science only operates at around a 10 percent capacity if i'm not mistaken. There are areas of the brain that science has yet to explain. I don't know why in the wolrd Prof X with his telepathy and would be able to do things to your body that his nothing to do with thought.

 

[Nokio]

The JLA once got taken out and enslaved by a starfish.

Well as i recall they were taken by surprise, well at least in the cartoon. The Xmen wouldn't fair any better. Starro is an alien from space, so how would the xmen be able to mount a defense or plan if they know nothing about him and he takes them by surprise as i'm sure he's done with the JLA. It's not like the JLA was forwarned that Starro was coming.

I'm not exactly how sure Starro and his little drones or whatever they are called control someone, but Cyke may be able to keep him off his face since his beams constantly flow. Not sure if Starro's influence is telepathic, and if so then it may have a hard time controling Prof X. I'm sure that the Xmen would overcome him like the JLA, but they wouldn't do any better.

 

[cryptic name]

Wolverine has a healing factor. I don't think those gases would work on him. I know Batman is suppose to be peak human or whatever, but Wolverine is slightly beyond that. One on one, Wolverine has him in hand to hand combat. You have to realize to that these guys use the Danger room to train in, something that the JLA doesn't have. Besides I have seen Wolverine give the Hulk a hard time so I can only imagine what he would do to Batman. Batman gets way to much credit. I honestly don't think Batman could beat Daredevil. There is no way that Batman could beat him. Aiight Cap, do you think that Batman could beat Cyclops?

Bats has way, way, more training and skill than Daredevil. plus, any sound/olefactory based device would f**k DD up

 

[CaptainClown]

ya, I think Bats could take DD down no prob.

 

[Flash Facts]

Does Starro have to be on the face of its host? IIRC Starro was on the chest of Superman and thats why no one knew he was being controlled. Also I believe Starro's powers are psychic in nature but it must be extremely powerful as it can control every person in the world simultaneously including other psychics such as Martian Manhunter.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

In those day MM was barely a telepath at all. He had some really low level mind reading powers and that was all. MM's telepathic and other psi powers came along after the COIE. The nature of Starro's powers was to my knowledge never explained. The starfish on the faces were linked to Starro who was huge.

 

[Hush]

Does Starro have to be on the face of its host? IIRC Starro was on the chest of Superman and thats why no one knew he was being controlled. Also I believe Starro's powers are psychic in nature but it must be extremely powerful as it can control every person in the world simultaneously including other psychics such as Martian Manhunter.

I think your refering to Batman Beyond, seeing as that is the only time i can recall seeing it on his chect, but to answer your question I think satrro just has to be on the body even though the face is what it prefers. In the Recent Justice League arc Starro was on the neck of his victims.

 

[MagicPrime]

ya, I think Bats could take DD down no prob.

The "Bat-Airhorn"

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I don't see why Starro's being used to make fun of the JLA. He may be a starfish, but he's pretty powerful.

 

[Flash Facts]

Yes, I was referring to the DCAU as Nokio specifically mentioned Starro from the cartoon and yes Starro seems pretty powerful to me too.

 

[MagicPrime]

In regards to many many previous posts:

I really hate it when people compare the various Flashes to QuickSilver. The Flashes are exponentially faster than Quicksilver. If Magneto saw Wally he would be like "I think this guy is a speedster like my son..." and in the moment he figured that out the Flash would already be kicking his ass. Flash is faster than reflexes, faster than thought, and much much faster than Quicksilver.

A better comparison to QuickSilver would be Jay without the Speedforce.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Very interesting, and while I'm agreement with you on your post why would Xavier automatically know how to do this stuff? Just becuase he can read and control minds does not give him some mutant insight on the entire human brain. The human brain according to science only operates at around a 10 percent capacity if i'm not mistaken. There are areas of the brain that science has yet to explain. I don't know why in the wolrd Prof X with his telepathy and would be able to do things to your body that his nothing to do with thought.

I was just saying, never said Xavier could contorl these things. Also, not sure how true this is, but from what I have heard, recent studies say that the human brain operates closer to 50%.

Although I would like to believe it's only 10%.

 

[Phenomenal]

Well, Vision for one is a synthetically constructed being...so his abilities to control his density (so basically like a robot powering one of its functions) and being unable to go through Magneto's shield is one thing, while the Flash has the Speed Force which is an entirely different concept; which is in itself basically a force of nature. Wouldn't be a shock if Flash, especially Wally, would be able to triumph such a feat being so in tune with the Speed Force.

I never seen Wally vibrate through anything so dense; besides trees, walls, etc.

Maggs pwns Superman and Green Lantern that is for sure.

 

[MagicPrime]

I never seen Wally vibrate through anything so dense; besides trees, walls, etc.

Maggs pwns Superman and Green Lantern that is for sure.

Of all the JLA I think any of the Green Lanterns would give Magneto a run for his money. There is a LOT of power in those rings. Not even mentioning Alan Scott, who I think could beat Magneto.

 

[Phenomenal]

Remember what Dr. Polaris did to Green Lantern?

Polaris made GL's ring punch HIMSELF, LOL. Maggs could do that and more.

 

[CaptainClown]

well how about if its Ion who doesn't use a ring

 

[MagicPrime]

Well, Hal has beaten Dr. Polaris before. Has he not?

 

[CaptainClown]

I don't know, he must have Green Lantern is still around.

 

[trustyside-kick]

I never seen Wally vibrate through anything so dense; besides trees, walls, etc.

Maggs pwns Superman and Green Lantern that is for sure.

I don't know about Superman, but yea Mags could just do what Polaris did to Kyle.

Also, I fail to remember how Polaris owned Supes in a way that Mags could do the same. All he did was toss a ****load, or rather a few cubin billion tons, of metal at him that just happened to be hidden beneath the surface of the South Pole.

What would Mags do? I keep remember people talking about him being able to "pull out" the energy of the Sun that powers Supes...but wouldn't he just keep getting fed back the same energy? Or can all of a Sudden Mags can completely block out the Sun or affect even it? Even if for some gay reason Mags could do something like any of that...he would have to give his concentration on Supes, therefore creating an opening for a strike against him. Not like he would do it in one second, that would be absurd.

 

[Flash Facts]

As I have said before The Flash doesn't necessarily have to vibrate though his shield to attack Magneto. He could just neutralize it like he did to Mota's impenetrable magnetic shield, use the speed force to effect him though the shield or a number of different tactics to defeat him. The Flash most likely should be able to penetrate the shield though anyway because it is just moving particles.

In Corp's words

Plus, we've already covered the fact that a speedster wouldn't even need to get through Magneto's force field to potentially pwn him.

 

[Phenomenal]

I don't know about Superman, but yea Mags could just do what Polaris did to Kyle.

Also, I fail to remember how Polaris owned Supes in a way that Mags could do the same. All he did was toss a ****load, or rather a few cubin billion tons, of metal at him that just happened to be hidden beneath the surface of the South Pole.

What would Mags do? I keep remember people talking about him being able to "pull out" the energy of the Sun that powers Supes...but wouldn't he just keep getting fed back the same energy? Or can all of a Sudden Mags can completely block out the Sun or affect even it? Even if for some gay reason Mags could do something like any of that...he would have to give his concentration on Supes, therefore creating an opening for a strike against him. Not like he would do it in one second, that would be absurd.

Maggs is TAYLOR made to kill Supes!

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Dr. Polaris was hitting Superman with Submarines and hurting him, he made GL punch himself with his own ring!

Maggs could do much more.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Dr. Polaris was hitting Superman with Submarines and hurting him, he made GL punch himself with his own ring!

Maggs could do much more.

But Polaris even said how many tons he was hitting him with: one billion cubic tons. That is a ****load. That is the only reason I look at that and don't go "wtf".

 

[Flash Facts]

Didn't Superman hold a black hole in his fist?