Iron Man 2 Jon Favreau not signed on for sequel?!?!

[ultimatefan]

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/regarding-all-those-iron-man-2-rumors/

Well that's a quick turnaround...

I don´t wanna be pessimistic and this could well be true, but wasn´t Nikki Finke the columnist who said Ed Norton wasn´t going to do any promotion for TIH cuz he disagreed with the cut, and now I see him on MTV Awards with Liv Tyler and doing interviews for a number of media outlets?

 

[fu manchu]

i think its completely ridiculous that Marvel is considering not bringing back Favreau because they want to be cheap. If this proves to be true, then I don't see many good directors wanting to work with Marvel in the future.

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/regarding-all-those-iron-man-2-rumors/

Well that's a quick turnaround...

I hope it works out in the end.

 

[Hiruu]

I think everybody involved needs to get their emotions in check, this film was a HUGE success because of both Jon and Marvel, and the impressive performance by the cast. Everybody needs to be compensated for their efforts in making this such a huge success. If Favreau isn't re-signed, it will be a serious tragedy for all of us concerned. I think Marvel needs to strongly look at incentives and benchmarks for this next movie to incentivize Jon, and if the film meets them, then compensate him, and they probably also need to lock him into a third film. The guy's a good director, so Marvel shouldn't let success go to their heads...it's a team effort, and think it's plug and play will lead to disaster.

To the marvel reps who read these boards, fon't screw up a good thing...look at Fox, WB, vice Sony, who has enjoyed success after success on Spider-Man.

 

[JackMercy]

wasn´t Nikki Finke the columnist who said Ed Norton wasn´t going to do any promotion for TIH cuz he disagreed with the cut, and now I see him on MTV Awards with Liv Tyler and doing interviews for a number of media outlets?

She said:

"Some fear things blowing up to the point where Norton might not publicize the movie."

and

"I bet he does next to none."


...And she's not that far off. So, post-production, he's done an MTV appearance -- where he didn't have to say a word about the movie, mind you -- and, what, an AOL featurette, and a Total Film interview (most of which was compiled months in advance)...?

And yes, he came to the premiere, and talked. I think they're lucky he even showed...

Hey, I want to like these movies, and have enjoyed some previous efforts from the Marvel canon -- but it seems to me that it's pretty clear that with both Hulk and Iron Man, Maisel is the one who has his hand stuck too far down the cookie jar, here, and is refusing to pull it out...

 

[explode7]

Some new info.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5052&Itemid=99

Has Marvel completely lost it?

 

[FlawlessVictory]

^That article is what we have been discussing.

 

[jrd550]

After TIH's successful weekend I hope they make an official announcement...

 

[Hiruu]

Some new info.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5052&Itemid=99

Has Marvel completely lost it?

I have to say...Jon being a bit too public with this stuff...we are talking about behind-close-door negotiations, and I fully expect that Marvel realizes that Jon is going to get more money, after the splendid job he did for IM, but the deal making is in HOW MUCH...sorry, but the Marvel isn't fox, and something will be worked out, now on the other hand, I'm not sure WTF Marvel is doing setting a release date for IM2 when they haven't locked in the cast and the crew for the movie, as that's a bit arrogant. No script, no Director, cast isn’t signed, and you set a release date??? Dave Maisel must have bumped his head after passing out from Iron Man’s opening weekend tally.

 

[Arach Knight]

Rumors from uknown sources are all for the sake of driving up web site hits. I believe our elders have an expression for this. "Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see." These people are starting up rumors and controversy for their own interest. That isn't news. That's tabloid behavior. News isn't about speculation from unknown sources. An "unamed" source with an actual position, is what real news utilizes. Unknown sources who are "higher up the food chain" don't exactly strike me as legitimate reporting.

 

[FaT_tONle]

After TIH's successful weekend I hope they make an official announcement...

Kind of off topic... but what announcements can we expect if TIH does well this weekend? The 75 million or more type weekend which I think is definitely in reach. Any chance at all they greenlight a Hulk sequel and move some things around? I personally doubt it. Hopefully they come out an announce they have writers and the principle cast in place by the end of the summer. I think this Jon thing is going to drag until the fall for some reason. I hope I am wrong. They have to get all the deals done by the end of the fall for sure with the script in place.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

But he also has made it very clear that he wants to do an Iron Man 2. And after that, if possible, he would like to do The Avengers.

...Which would be impossible, because he would be half way through IM2 by the time Avengers went into full production. Unless Avengers has an early production start date, and he shoots both films simultaneously.. .

 

[Arach Knight]

I don't see why both films could not be done simultaneously. Especially since the films are linked (many of the same actors). They filmed the last two Lord of the Rings films back to back. It would not be impossible to do the same with Iron Man and The Avengers. Contrary to popular belief, movie scenes are not filmed in order. So they could save time by filming similar scenes (scenes in suits) at the same time. It is not easy...but it is possible.

 

[Evil Twin]

I don't see why both films could not be done simultaneously. Especially since the films are linked (many of the same actors). They filmed the last two Lord of the Rings films back to back. It would not be impossible to do the same with Iron Man and The Avengers. Contrary to popular belief, movie scenes are not filmed in order. So they could save time by filming similar scenes (scenes in suits) at the same time. It is not easy...but it is possible.

They haven't even settled on a director or cast for Thor or Captain America yet. And they'd be wise to defer to whoever is directing the solo movies. It might be doable with Thor is they stick to the original schedule, but I doubt they're going to film The Avengers before they film Captain America.

That and I don't believe it's creatively healthy for a director to film 3 superhero projects in a row. Exercising some other creative muscles is often a good thing in the big picture.

Personally, I believe that Avengers is going to get pushed back at least a year, likely while Runaways takes one of the 4 dates proposed, so that Marvel can get their ducks in a row. There's really no reason to rush into The Avengers while there are still quite a few challenges to be overcome for Thor and Captain America. Harry Potter fell off their original 7 movies in 7 years plan through no one's fault fairly early, and it wouldn't be surprising if similar things happen. Heck, Marvel had a 2009 plan at one point, likely including Ant-Man, so things happen.

 

[ultimatefan]

She said:

"Some fear things blowing up to the point where Norton might not publicize the movie."

and

"I bet he does next to none."


...And she's not that far off. So, post-production, he's done an MTV appearance -- where he didn't have to say a word about the movie, mind you -- and, what, an AOL featurette, and a Total Film interview (most of which was compiled months in advance)...?

And yes, he came to the premiere, and talked. I think they're lucky he even showed...

Hey, I want to like these movies, and have enjoyed some previous efforts from the Marvel canon -- but it seems to me that it's pretty clear that with both Hulk and Iron Man, Maisel is the one who has his hand stuck too far down the cookie jar, here, and is refusing to pull it out...

In Norton´s case it´s even hard to tell cuz he´s known to never do a lot of publicity for his movies.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Personally, I believe that Avengers is going to get pushed back at least a year, likely while Runaways takes one of the 4 dates proposed, so that Marvel can get their ducks in a row. There's really no reason to rush into The Avengers while there are still quite a few challenges to be overcome for Thor and Captain America. Harry Potter fell off their original 7 movies in 7 years plan through no one's fault fairly early, and it wouldn't be surprising if similar things happen. Heck, Marvel had a 2009 plan at one point, likely including Ant-Man, so things happen.

It's interesting in that Marvel has said two films a year plus the fact that they have announced the Runaways... the math doesn't add up because then they'd be over that two film limit. Avengers should be July 2012. I also want Ant-Man and a Hulk sequel if there is another story to tell there. So ideally I'd wait till 2013. Marvel is probably afraid one of these films might bomb and that's why they are rushing everything so quickly.

 

[Marvin]

if JF was so hot for the franchise and fans (his words not mine)

maybe the money wouldn't come first

face it, in the end it's his decision, the contract signer, not the contract maker

i love how marvel is the bad guy here

"Our source continues that Maisel believes Iron Man 2 will be a success regardless of Favreau's involvement and feels the studio does not need to pay Jon a higher fee for his services."
this is classic exec talk here
i usually hate exec talk...this time it's understandable

as far as them rushing productions...again they have huge disadvantages other studios don't, the longer you go without movies the worse
in theory if IM2 was coming out in two weeks that would mean more precious much need money for the studio and the audience is teeming for it now more then 3 years later(minus the late finding dvd audience of course)

 

[The Guard]

I would tend to agree that it's absurd to paint Marvel as the bad guy here when we don't even know the specifics. It's possible Favreau is just holding out for more money, period.

 

[tamron]

I have to say...Jon being a bit too public with this stuff...

I agree, Jon is being too public. However, from a negotiation standpoint, this is the best bargaining chip he has.

He's spent well over 2 years carefully generating fan interest and support, then delivered a crowd pleasing film. If he goes public with "Hey, I'm not gonna get to do the sequel," Marvel Studios gets a wave of bad pub, and it potentially forces their hand to bring him back.

While I understand that Marvel is limited due to their financing situation, I find it hard to believe they can't find someway to compensate him in another way, if the offer is really as low as they're making it sound. But then again, maybe Jon is greedy. It's hard to say.

I don't think we have the full story by any stretch.

 

[dark_b]

i reallly dont think that he demands a spielberg paycheck.

if he nows takes the same amount money that marvel wants to give him then they will win. he spend 2 years working on this movie. its their first movie and it was a good movie. people liked it. he deserves more money. of course if he wants unrealistic numbers that i agree that they should replace him.
but from interviews Jon never sounded like a guy who would act like that. so....

 

[Marvin]

we never know what ppl are like from how they act on tv

Will smith seems like the nicest guy in hollywood...at the same time he gets paid 20plus million a film

not saying he's not nice, but you can't be that nice to ask for that much money lol

i think jon deserves to ask for more...that's just fair

but when it comes to pay checks in hollywood it's less a matter of what someone "deserves" and more a matter of how much they are needed or rather how essential they are to the success of the fourth coming film

at this point, Iron man 2 will bomb without Robert Downey

judging by weather or not the hulk kicks as and feels like the same universe...JF may not be needed.

 

[Nirvana]

Wow, they better sign him on again.

 

[Arach Knight]

Just because the film was successful doesn't mean that he should instantly get more money. That cuts into profits, which cuts into future spending. The producers of League of Extraordinary gentleman, claimed that the film was so crappy because Sean Connery demanded $10 million (which was half of the film budget). I'm not saying that they can't pay him a little more. It is reasonable that their success with the film, should be his shared success. But we don't know two critical pieces of information...

1)How much Favreau was paid for his services this time around.
2)We don't know how much he wants for next time.

If Marvel gave him something like $4 million and he wants $10 million, that would be pretty ridiculous. We need more information before we pass judgement and make any calls on who is messing up. I'm not saying Favreau is the "bad guy" but we honestly don't know both sides of the story.

 

[Marvin]

i think the kind of success the ppl turned ironman into is enough to make any poker player ask for more (and fav love's him some poker)

assuming it's a money thing

 

[Lauryn2000]

Some new info.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5052&Itemid=99

Has Marvel completely lost it?

Yes....they're beginning to start smelling themselves....

 

[zanos]

Favereau got 4 million for the first film so if he wants more money for the sequel then I can see why the studio would be hesitant to go much more.