The Avengers Joss Whedon leading on "Avengers" short list of directors

[Figs]

I don't have anything against Whedon but he's only directed one movie...the rest were TV episodes.

I don't care how much experience he has with comics, that does not mean he would be a great director.

If he is the one that directs The Avengers I won't have a problem with it really but that script had better be ****ing good.

 

[Saint]

I don't have anything against Whedon but he's only directed one movie...the rest were TV episodes.

I don't care how much experience he has with comics, that does not mean he would be a great director.

It's actually the great movie he directed that suggests he would be a great director.

 

[TheFuture]

I love Whedon, Buffy and Angel are my favourite shows of all time. Here's a few reasons why this will work.

1. He gets the best out of his actors and actresses.
2. He will produce great scenes that are character dominated. There's no better bloke to direct egos clashing than Whedon.
3. He has done some excellent action scenes on the smallest of budgets, imagine what he'll do with The Avengers.
4. He will get the best out of the female actresses. Whedon doesn't need a whole film to make a female character look like a million bucks, all he needs is one scene. I guarantee that you'll fall in love with Wasp in the first scene she's in.
5. He will deliver with the emotional scenes. The only time I've ever balled my eyes out watching TV or films is when I watched Buffy and Angel.

Whedon will kick ****ing ass.

 

[Doctor Jones]

People still want the Wasp? Ugh...

Or Ant Man for that matter. Double ugh...

Please for the love of God, focus it on those four guys and their formation. It's more than enough story to set up the first film. Not to mention the threat they have to face. It will be too convulted if they do more than four.

We don't need to cram more Marvel universe into this thing. It's enough. I want to see a good film based on a comic, not a fanboy's wet dream come true.

 

[Aztec]

People still want the Wasp? Ugh...

Or Ant Man for that matter. Double ugh...

Please for the love of God, focus it on those four guys and their formation. It's more than enough story to set up the first film. Not to mention the threat they have to face. It will be too convulted if they do more than four.

We don't need to cram more Marvel universe into this thing. It's enough. I want to see a good film based on a comic, not a fanboy's wet dream come true.

I agree 100% and I've stated as much many times. But prepare to be flamed, because there is many a fanboy around these parts that think that "10 characters is very manageable".

 

[TheFuture]

Well, having 4 established characters as it is will be a tall order. There has never been an action film that has had so many eastablished or big characters. Truth be known the film will probably just be a tour de force with very few meaty scenes, hence why LL would be on the short list. So they might as well throw Janet and Hank in there. There would be no other female lead other than BW.

 

[Sawyer]

People still want the Wasp? Ugh...

Or Ant Man for that matter. Double ugh...

Please for the love of God, focus it on those four guys and their formation. It's more than enough story to set up the first film. Not to mention the threat they have to face. It will be too convulted if they do more than four.

We don't need to cram more Marvel universe into this thing. It's enough. I want to see a good film based on a comic, not a fanboy's wet dream come true.

If that were the case, then Samuel L. Jackson shouldn't be in this playing Nick Fury.

If they serve the story (not to mention the fact that they were both part of the original team before Cap himself), then I'm all for Janet and Pym appearing. Of course, they'll play a smaller role than the other four, just because they havent appeared in their own film yet. They'll be supporting, most likely.

 

[louiebling$]

Hank and Janet are founding members they deserve to be in the lineup way more that Fury/Black Widow/War Machine.

Hell Janet is the Heart of the Avengers

 

[louiebling$]

Hank and Janet are founding members they deserve to be in the lineup way more that Fury/Black Widow/War Machine.

Hell Janet is the Heart of the Avengers

 

[flickchick85]

I'm very 50/50...yes he's written some of the best comics of the last 15 years, but writing a comic and directing a movie are two different beasts.

...and he's proven he can do both well.

Or did you not like Serenity?

 

[Son of Coul]

Well, having 4 established characters as it is will be a tall order. There has never been an action film that has had so many eastablished or big characters. Truth be known the film will probably just be a tour de force with very few meaty scenes, hence why LL would be on the short list. So they might as well throw Janet and Hank in there. There would be no other female lead other than BW.

I've seen this reasoning before and think it's terrible. By saying this, you're basically saying they should say "**** it, it's too hard to make this movie good, let's just cram lots of action scenes and characters instead" after they've done so much meticulous and hard work to make the five movies preceding it that helped build up to it. How about before giving up on a character-heavy actual good movie, they actually try it first?

 

[Project862006]

so would nathan fillion be hank if whedon directs lol

 

[Sawyer]

so would nathan fillion be hank if whedon directs lol

Or Neil Patrick Harris...

 

[mclay18]

I want an actual film director who's made something substantial. Kathryn Bigelow or Riddly Scott or someone.

As good as Bigelow and Scott are, they'll be out of consideration for one of the following: a) their asking price will either be too high or b) they'll turn it down. Especially Bigelow, she's not the kind of person who wants to direct big-budget tentpoles.

Marvel is definitely looking for a solid commercial director, not the arty ones. Arty directors who've gone commercial have had mixed results movie-wise.

 

[KangConquers]

People still want the Wasp? Ugh...

Or Ant Man for that matter. Double ugh...

Please for the love of God, focus it on those four guys and their formation. It's more than enough story to set up the first film. Not to mention the threat they have to face. It will be too convulted if they do more than four.

We don't need to cram more Marvel universe into this thing. It's enough. I want to see a good film based on a comic, not a fanboy's wet dream come true.

The whole "THOSE FOUR" guys thing is the epitome of fanboyism for one reason...Hulk isn't an important avenger...he's best as a loner character and if anyone thinks he's going to be a permanent part of the team, they're in for a surprise.

I see Hulk as the enemy, then teaming up with the avengers for the last 15-25 minutes, then doing his 3 mile leaps and leaving the team. I do not see him popping up as a full time member; his movie was very modestly receied and he's a very expensive character to put on the big screen...it's just not worth it.

 

[Deaths Head II]

People still want the Wasp? Ugh...

Or Ant Man for that matter. Double ugh...

Please for the love of God, focus it on those four guys and their formation. It's more than enough story to set up the first film. Not to mention the threat they have to face. It will be too convulted if they do more than four.

We don't need to cram more Marvel universe into this thing. It's enough. I want to see a good film based on a comic, not a fanboy's wet dream come true.

Yeah, we can't have two of the founding members crowding up the film. Especially one that is often considered to be the heart of the Avengers. That's just silly.

Ant Man and Wasp deserve to be in the film more then Black Widow, War Machine, Nick Fury (who isn't even a member), and even the Hulk (who lasted on the team for two issues).

 

[FaT_tONle]

If Norton comes back I believe Hulk will have a major role and won't simply go away for 45 minutes somewhere in the second act. He could be the motive for the villains for most of the film. It's sort of redundant but I couldn't think of a better weapon. If he's just a diversion then fine, but I am sure they will come up with something more than that for Hulk and Banner. It's a big name character and he needs as much screen time as the big three, considering this may be his last appearance in a while.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I think just the imagry of two characters that are the size of ants is incredibly stupid looking.

Avengers Assemble! They go off and I see two characters the size of pees running off. It's laughable. This is the ****ing Borrowers here. I can't take that seriously. I wouldn't mind seeing Pym appear as a scientist. But ****ing Ant Man. Nope.

 

[Doctor Jones]

If that were the case, then Samuel L. Jackson shouldn't be in this playing Nick Fury.

If they serve the story (not to mention the fact that they were both part of the original team before Cap himself), then I'm all for Janet and Pym appearing. Of course, they'll play a smaller role than the other four, just because they havent appeared in their own film yet. They'll be supporting, most likely.

I have no problem with that. Given that they are building up his character and that he seems to be forming the team in bits over these Marvel films. And he'll take an active part and he's already set up. Then you've got to set up Cap being resurected and him dealing with the changing times and realizing he is the leader, Stark probably dealing with him thinking he would be the best member to lead the team and accepting Cap as their leader, where the butt heads, become friends, etc. And Thor whatever the hell he is going to do. If Loki is the villain I expect another story. Hulk could work as the good guy or bad guy. It depends. But it's more than enough to set up. This is plenty of story that you can't throw aside after a few scenes. The characterization of all these guys and forming is integral to the forming of the team. They shouldn't be a fully feldged team right off. They all have their baggage that they have to come to terms with. I don't need to see Hawkeye, ****ing Ant Man or Wasp, or War Machine anywhere near this film. I could do without Black Widow too.

There's plenty of story here. Haven't we learned what happens when something becomes too convulted? I want them to handle this carefully. Not to stuff in as many characters as possible. I started writing an Avengers screenplay and it's already difficult with the four characters in it. I included Pym too. This could be a distaster if handled wrong. It's better to go the safe way and dial down on the characters. If we get sequels, brings in Hawkeye and such. Let's develop the forming of the four first and then worry avbout the other stuff later. I think if they make the right choice and how it's handled, well handled if it is, people will be thankful for it.

 

[bunk]

I think just the imagry of two characters that are the size of ants is incredibly stupid looking.

Avengers Assemble! They go off and I see two characters the size of pees running off. It's laughable. This is the ****ing Borrowers here. I can't take that seriously. I wouldn't mind seeing Pym appear as a scientist. But ****ing Ant Man. Nope.

Do you even like The Avengers?

 

[TheFuture]

Who said Pym *has* to be Ant Man? Why can't he be Giant Man?

 

[DocHoliday]

I say bring in Wasp and Antman in Avengers 2. That way they could have already been introduced in their own film and could be more than just background characters.

 

[DocHoliday]

Like Whedon a lot but let's be real, here. Serenity I loved as well (mainly because I adored Firefly) but...it's very TV level directing. I'm not saying he isn't capable of more. For example M:I 3 was good but still didn't make Abrams reach his true potential.

Whedon's specialty is certainly not action and that's never what set him above the pack of the other tv guys. It was the scripts. For Avengers it should be the best and most diverse action we have seen in ANY superhero movie, which I'm just not sure Whedon is capable of. Am I holding Avengers to a higher standard as far as action is concerned? Absolutely, because it is the culmination of all the movie we have/will see.

If you are telling me that he is going to write the script, than fantastic. I can't think of a much better guy to WRITE ensemble scripts in the fantasy genre. If he gets the job and re-writes the script he will undoubtedly deliver on the character bits. I am not saying he isn't capable of making awesome action scenes if he does get the job. I am just saying we haven't really seen anything that indicates he can.

As for the making the female characters outshine the males, he won't. Simply because there are no female characters that we know of that could outshine Iron Man/Thor/Cap/Hulk. But I will say the very thought of Hawkeye and Black Widow teaming up, with Whedon level banter puts a smile on my face.

 

[Deaths Head II]

I think just the imagry of two characters that are the size of ants is incredibly stupid looking.

Avengers Assemble! They go off and I see two characters the size of pees running off. It's laughable. This is the ****ing Borrowers here. I can't take that seriously. I wouldn't mind seeing Pym appear as a scientist. But ****ing Ant Man. Nope.

You do realize Pym has had a ****load of identities? Most that have him turning huge and powerful? Giant Man? Goliath? Yellowjacket? He was even just Dr. Pym in the comics for a while and shrunk things other them himself so he could keep a whole arsenal in his pocket. That was actually my favorite identity of his since it made him more of an adventurer rather then a super hero, but they'll probably go with Giant Man over all of his other identities, even Ant Man.

 

[Sawyer]

I wouldn't mind if Pym and Janet were just, like, SHIELD analysts or something.