The Avengers Joss Whedon leading on "Avengers" short list of directors

[Matt]

I like this provided he can keep his tone down and make it a good film as opposed to a Joss Whedon film. Whedon's tone and style is very distinct, much like Tim Burton. If he can keep his tone minimalized so it does not overshadow the Avengers, I really like this. Plus I hope we see a couple Whedon mainstays in here. I'd love to see Fillion as Hank Pym.

 

[Doctor Jones]

God, I hope Fillion is nowhere near this. If it happens, the enitre world will be covered in fanboy saliva and ****.

 

[lixdexia]

if i respond to your post...i do it as a man

when you make pointless machismo boasts instead of actually responding...do you do it as a man?

Spoiler

i feel you're both in the wrong so i'm not taking sides, but that post was ridiculous. did you lose a bet where you agreed to say that x number of times in a day or something?

 

[Deadpool876]

If Whedon wins, I hope he casts Morena Baccarin. Don't know as who yet, just cast her.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Fillion as Pym I think would be great casting.

I don't think Whedon will overshadow the production with "Whedonisms" as people call them. He obviously respects comics, and I think he will show the material that respect. However, I don't want him to completely ignore his style. Don't be overtly topical with pop culture like he normally is, but I think his dialogue flow and way the characters work into the the conversation/story need to stay. Just avoid pop culture. Plus, a couple Cap jokes about not knowing today's world and jokes about Thor I think would be good (and Whedon likely will make a couple).

I don't want the film to feel generic, so I think he needs to stamp it to an extent. Just don't overshadow it with your stamp.

 

[lixdexia]

God, I hope Fillion is nowhere near this. If it happens, the enitre world will be covered in fanboy saliva and ****.

i thought about that about 15 min after i heard the announcement. "he could be a pretty good hank!" i thought. then upon further reflecting i thought "...wait...no. no he wouldn't." the only role in this that i think would fit fillian would be if they did a direct adaption of ultimates vol 1 he could take freddie prince jr's spot.

 

[roach]

when you make pointless machismo boasts instead of actually responding...do you do it as a man?

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i feel you're both in the wrong so i'm not taking sides, but that post was ridiculous. did you lose a bet where you agreed to say that x number of times in a day or something?

i was trying to be funny and lighten the mood in here since it has gotten very aggressive in here...sorry you didnt get it

 

[lixdexia]

i was trying to be funny and lighten the mood in here since it has gotten very aggressive in here...sorry you didnt get it

ah, my bad then. maybe next time combo it with a picture of artie: strongest man...IN THE WORLD!

 

[roach]

ah, my bad then. maybe next time combo it with a picture of artie: strongest man...IN THE WORLD!

thats crazy enough to work

 

[Evil Twin]

Honestly, I don't really care how successful Whedon's movies have been in the past. That has very little to do with how successful The Avengers will be. And, even then, I'm more concerned with whether it's a good movie or not, since I don't own stock in Marvel.

I'm certainly willing to wait and see what he comes up with. I'm not 100% convinced that The Avengers is going to happen before they see the box office from Thor and Captain America anyways. So, we can wait to see what he actually proposes.

That said, I think the idea that if Whedon is good at a specific type of ensemble it guarantees he'll be good at The Avengers is flawed and needs to stop. A Whedon ensemble is not much like an Altman ensemble, isn't much like a Woody Allen ensemble, isn't like a Mamet ensemble, isn't like a David Simon ensemble, isn't like a Kurosawa ensemble, isn't like a Soderbergh ensemble, etc. I think it's fair to say that The Avengers will be a departure from his comfort zone in many ways.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Not really. He worked on X-Men for Marvel for a while, and he knows comics well. Wasn't he also a writer on X1? He's worked with comic teams before. Yes, X-Men is not the same as The Avengers, but it shows he can do ensembles not of his original design.

 

[Son of Coul]

I'm certainly willing to wait and see what he comes up with. I'm not 100% convinced that The Avengers is going to happen before they see the box office from Thor and Captain America anyways. So, we can wait to see what he actually proposes.

If what Hemsworth said is true that they'll be shooting early next year (Jan/Feb or so), which seems very likely, then this isn't how it's going down.

 

[david icke]

If Whedon wins, I hope he casts Morena Baccarin. Don't know as who yet, just cast her.

The Wasp, she's perfect for the Wasp, and have Eliza Dushku as a villan at some point in a sequel, as Titania, with Jason Statham as the Absorbing Man, lol, that would be amazing.
That's the thing, if he does as well as he should he should do the sequels, or trilogy.

 

[Matt]

Fillion as Pym I think would be great casting.

I don't think Whedon will overshadow the production with "Whedonisms" as people call them. He obviously respects comics, and I think he will show the material that respect. However, I don't want him to completely ignore his style. Don't be overtly topical with pop culture like he normally is, but I think his dialogue flow and way the characters work into the the conversation/story need to stay. Just avoid pop culture. Plus, a couple Cap jokes about not knowing today's world and jokes about Thor I think would be good (and Whedon likely will make a couple).

I don't want the film to feel generic, so I think he needs to stamp it to an extent. Just don't overshadow it with your stamp.

My feelings exactly.

 

[Raiden]

If what Hemsworth said is true that they'll be shooting early next year (Jan/Feb or so), which seems very likely, then this isn't how it's going down.

If that's the case, they'd better get Capt. America shooting soon, otherwise Chris Evans may not have time to do both movies at the same time.

 

[terry78]

Pull a LOTR, shoot Thor and Cap at the same time as Avengers. But the con to that would be that both Hemsworth and Evans need to establish how they're gonna play the characters first, and Avengers would take place a while after their respective movies.

 

[Son of Coul]

Thor is already 3/4ths done shooting and Cap shooting is coming up in June. There won't be any problems. Marvel wouldn't cast these things and set the release dates without thinking about a shooting schedule. That's the kind of thing that's not really an afterthought in this process.

 

[DACrowe]

...again. Anyone who disagrees with you is talking **** right?

No, i didn't say Vaughn for the gig simply because he has done a comic book movie this year.

I picked Vaughn because I know, and i mean KNOW he could nail Avengers.

He has directed ensembles that included megastars, something which Whedon only dreams of. He can shoot sweet action scenes. He has a rapier wit in his writing that doesn't come off as too try hard to be cool like Whedon. He has a realness about him.

Vaughn would be perfect for this gig.

So. i haven't seen Kick Ass yet, but even if it is great, does it mean he should direct every superhero movie? The Dark Knight was great, but should NOlan direct The AVengers? Once upon a time fanboys loved Sam Raimi because Spider-Man 2 was great, post-Spider-Man 3 they act like he raped the entire community.

Directors should be given chances that are solely unique. Vaughn did Layer Cake, a stylish British gangster movie when he signed onto every comic book movie ever and then dropped out (X3, Thor, interest in SM4 and now finally Kickass), but he only did something similar (Stardust) after doing a gangster movie.

The best superhero movies were made by directors who were not in the genre at one point. Nolan? He made mind twisting psychological thrillers like Memento and Insomnia. Favreau? Two children movies (Elf being exceptional, but Tony Stark it wasn't). Raimi? A bunch of low budget horror/comedies and a few low budget dramas prior to taking Spider-Man. Singer? A crime drama and a Nazi movie.

Yet the fanboys either want the directors who succeeded in the genre prior or did pure action movies. But those popular directors did not start in superhero movies or the ones who came from action films (RAtner and Rush Hour and Letterer with the Transporter movies) created mediocre films. Even Avengers is just on "Serenity" level, it will surely be superior to most superhero movies made to date. You can't just go back to directors who already had success in the genre, because they likely will not want to switch ships--and when they do it doesn't always transfer well (Singer moving from X-Men to Superman).

Whedon has a similar style to Abrams and Favreau. Their reboots or superhero movies are generally beloved. I'm sure the similarities in style and how they work with actors crossed Marvel's mind. They want another Iron Man or Star Trek. They don't want another Incredible Hulk/Clash of the Titans. That's why they moved away from your choices.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Cap begins shooting in June-ish. Avengers shooting in Jan/Feb is perfectly fine. They have the director/writer now. He can work on this for 8 months before filming. They have time, especially since Cap is filming soon. Cap will wrap shooting by August, and reshoots will be done before Jan/Feb.

The time frame can work.

 

[lixdexia]

Pull a LOTR, shoot Thor and Cap at the same time as Avengers. But the con to that would be that both Hemsworth and Evans need to establish how they're gonna play the characters first, and Avengers would take place a while after their respective movies.

...but they're almost done shooting thor? i think the plan is for evans to go from principle shooting for cap directly into the avengers bouncing back and forth a little bit for re-shoots. i base this on absolutely nothing though so regard it with as much sketchyness as the fish sandwich i had for lunch.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Pull a LOTR, shoot Thor and Cap at the same time as Avengers. But the con to that would be that both Hemsworth and Evans need to establish how they're gonna play the characters first, and Avengers would take place a while after their respective movies.

Good point. I doubt much is going to change between then and then in terms of their performances. If they flop, Avengers could be a disaster. If Hemsworth's acting is awful and Chris falls flat then I'd start panicking, but no need to worry as of now.

 

[DACrowe]

I am not a "Trekkie" or "Trekker" but I've seen enough to know that Shatner never played a rebel driving cars off cliffs or getting in fist fights with Spock to the disdain of his crew. Krik in the old series and films was a "Maverick," but he never resembled Han Solo until now.

Actually MI3 did underperform, disappoint, whatever. That is why Paramount fired Tom Cruise afterwards (blaming his antics) and said there would be no more Mission: Impossible movies. It wasn't until Abrams had a huge success with Star Trek and Cruise recovered his career that MI4 was announced, to the shock of much of Hollywood after how bitter the relationship with Paramount and Cruise ended following the disappointment of MI3's performance.

 

[roach]

I am not a "Trekkie" or "Trekker" but I've seen enough to know that Shatner never played a rebel driving cars off cliffs or getting in fist fights with Spock to the disdain of his crew. Krik in the old series and films was a "Maverick," but he never resembled Han Solo until now.

I dont see Abrams Kirk as Solo-lite....as a Trek person I saw the same character from the series. Kirk was always getting into fights. I dont really see Solo driving cars off cliffs or getting into fights with Chewy

 

[Spider-Fan]

But, Solo did fly into an Asteroid Belt and various other reckless things. Which, are equal to driving a car off a cliff.

 

[roach]

But, Solo did fly into an Asteroid Belt and various other reckless things. Which, are equal to driving a car off a cliff.

and Kirk never did anything reckless????