The Avengers Joss Whedon leading on "Avengers" short list of directors

[DACrowe]

Oh crap. Well all three are linked within the embedding. So hit play and then follow the link and you can still watch all three. Sorry.

 

[DACrowe]

I found that fight you speak of. There's embedding so here's the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Cm5ik1kA8&feature=related

That's a great "non ballet" fight sequence. Thanks.

 

[marvelrobbins]

If there are any netflix subscripers you should check Angel Season 4:
Apocalypse Nowish.It features fight between Angel,Gunn,and Wesley
against Season 4 baddlie The Beast which could give you Idea on how
Captain america,Iron man,and Thor Vs The Hulk with Joss Directing could
go.Granted he didn't direct the episode but It's well known especilly after
hearing from people who worked on his shows he Is very Involved In all
episodes even If he Is only credet as Executive Producer on a episode.

 

[Rock Sexton]

"Ensemble" does not imply big names; only a cast in which the actors and their characters are given roughly equal focus. So while it's true that Whedon has not worked with a lot of big name actors, this has nothing to do with whether or not he has experience directing ensembles.

"Whedon hasn't worked with big name actors" is sort of a strange complaint, anyway. So what? What are we afraid is going to happen as a result? That Whedon's product might be even better than usual as the result of talented performers like Norton and Downey? Oh no!

You're right.... what was I thinking ..... any director can work with any actor. Doesn't matter the caliber or pedigree. He worked with Adam Balwin, and ..... and ...... and .... in that movie ......

I never said anything about being "afraid" of the result. The point was, this is a new frontier for him with the grade of actor he's going to have to have to assign equal amounts of importance to, if indeed that's the case. It's already as much a certified success as it is a certified failure.

 

[Chewy]

Hey, remember that time Peter Jackson went from directing nobodies (and Michael J. Fox!) in horror movies to directing one of the most sprawling casts in cinematic history?

 

[kedrell]

Ok I went and saw the sing-a-long blog on youtube. OMG did that suck. Full disclosure: I detest musicals so it really wasn't a suprise. So Whedonite's, Browncoats or whatever the **** you call yourselves, that isn't gonna sell me(and probably many other Avengers fans) on this guy directing the movie. Try again. And people need to stop using his work on the X-Men comic as an example that he knows how to do action. One is drawn and still and the other is shot in live action and in motion. Big difference.

 

[Son of Coul]

Dude if you didn't like Dr. Horrible you shouldn't even be allowed to watch movies.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Comic panels are basically storyboards with text. His work on X-Men definitely shows his capacity for action as Avengers will look like that when it is story boarded.

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

Hey, remember that time Peter Jackson went from directing nobodies (and Michael J. Fox!) in horror movies to directing one of the most sprawling casts in cinematic history?

bad taste is more memorable than those 3 "action" sequences that were posted above

 

[Chewy]

Ok I went and saw the sing-a-long blog on youtube. OMG did that suck. Full disclosure: I detest musicals so it really wasn't a suprise. So Whedonite's, Browncoats or whatever the **** you call yourselves, that isn't gonna sell me(and probably many other Avengers fans) on this guy directing the movie. Try again. And people need to stop using his work on the X-Men comic as an example that he knows how to do action. One is drawn and still and the other is shot in live action and in motion. Big difference.

You detest musicals and didn't like Whedon's musical. You hate the idea of teens mixed with vampires and didn't like Buffy.

Seems what you actually hate about these Whedon works is the concept, regardless of the execution.

 

[JP]

Some of you just don't even make sense. Wow.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I am kind of surprised by the Whedon hate, too. But, every decision Marvel has made in regard to their films was bashed at one time or another, yet Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk both turned out as good movies (with Iron Man being an outstanding one). Seems like if it isn't Iron Man, everyone is skeptical, and this will only change when proven wrong.

So far, I like Marvel's track record.

 

[JP]

What bothers me is that you can make a perfect comparison to Jackson, and Singer, and Favs, and it's a completely relevant comparison. But, for some, the fact that they already made their great movies nulls any comparison that can be made.

It's like, "well yeah Favs lacked experience, but it doesn't matter because he made a great Iron Man movie already and Whedon hasn't made a great Avengers movie yet. So, you lose."

Boggles my mind.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Hey, remember that time Peter Jackson went from directing nobodies (and Michael J. Fox!) in horror movies to directing one of the most sprawling casts in cinematic history?

I understand that and it's the fully expected response to select "director A" who has done it, opposed to "director B" who hasn't in order to back up the idea that Whedon is capable ..... people do it with actors when it comes to who can play certain parts as well (i.e. Chris Evans). That's why I said it's as much a success as it is a failure right now. However, it stands to be true that this is still uncharted waters for him. That was my point. That is all I said. Whedonites can calm down.

 

[terry78]

The greats all had to be given a first chance to direct something big before they got their acclaim. Yes, subconsciously some of the suits may look for directors with a more quirky indie style because it increases their profit to payout ratio, but there are actually people that work at the studios that have some knowledge of the **** they're producing and actually do look at a body of work to determine if the guy they choose will work.

 

[Spider-Fan]

What bothers me is that you can make a perfect comparison to Jackson, and Singer, and Favs, and it's a completely relevant comparison. But, for some, the fact that they already made their great movies nulls any comparison that can be made.

It's like, "well yeah Favs lacked experience, but it doesn't matter because he made a great Iron Man movie already and Whedon hasn't made a great Avengers movie yet. So, you lose."

Boggles my mind.

This is just how the fan community works. I should have expected this kind of reception cause all comic films have had this happen prior to footage, pics, etc. It's always the film will suck. Yes folks, even Nolan was not god at one point and Ledger was going to be a terrible Joker. The great Iron Man and RDJ were bashed for being bad choices, and Favs was a moron.

Best way to prove everyone wrong: make a good-great movie. Marvel has done this twice (IM - great, TIH - good), but the negativity remains...cause that is how fans work.

 

[Chewy]

I understand that and it's the fully expected response to select "director A" who has done it, opposed to "director B" who hasn't in order to back up the idea that Whedon is capable ..... people do it with actors when it comes to who can play certain parts as well (i.e. Chris Evans). That's why I said it's as much a success as it is a failure right now. However, it stands to be true that this is still uncharted waters for him. That was my point. That is all I said. Whedonites can calm down.

I am not a Whedonite. The only show of his I have seen is Firefly. I suppose not freaking out because this is only his second film makes me a Whedonite.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I just think giving this film, (now i am giving this opinion as someone completely ignoring their hate for Whedon) which is gonna be a reeeeally difficult film to do, with MASSIVE unheard of levels of pressure (yes bigger pressure than Iron Man, don't even dare delude yourself to that fact), to a guy with some TV shows and one movie under his belt is similar to taking a 2 year old child, throwing him in the deep end of a swimming pool without arm bands, then releasing ill tempered mutated sea bass with frickin laser beams attached to their heads into said swimming pool with said 2 year old.

I mean seriously, how can people not be a little cagey about this?

I'd say that about any rookie director, not just Whedon.

 

[Chewy]

How many movies did JJ Abrams have under his belt, to go with his TV credits, when he was handed the "massively unheard of levels of pressure" of rebooting the decades old, much beloved franchise that is Star Trek?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

How did Star Trek have that much pressure? Really?

It's box office returns showed that most people didn't really give a toss about it.

 

[Chewy]

I don't even know how to respond to that. I would think the pressures involved would be obvious, and it had a great run at the box office after the dwindling "who gives a ****, Trek is dead" returns of the films prior to it.

 

[roach]

How many movies did JJ Abrams have under his belt, to go with his TV credits, when he was handed the "massively unheard of levels of pressure" of rebooting the decades old, much beloved franchise that is Star Trek?

1. Mission Impossible 3 which while was good wasnt as big as 2 but they are letting him direct 4
2. Cloverfield...you may have heard of this little film

So the comparison is one director with two hit movies against one with none

 

[rashad]

I am kind of surprised by the Whedon hate, too. But, every decision Marvel has made in regard to their films was bashed at one time or another, yet Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk both turned out as good movies (with Iron Man being an outstanding one). Seems like if it isn't Iron Man, everyone is skeptical, and this will only change when proven wrong.

So far, I like Marvel's track record.

Well Iron Man has been the only proven success they've had.

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

The great Iron Man and RDJ were bashed for being bad choices, and Favs was a moron.

pretty sure nobody bashed RDJ as the choice. probably on par, if not greater than bale when he was cast as batman. i mean c'mon...

How many movies did JJ Abrams have under his belt, to go with his TV credits, when he was handed the "massively unheard of levels of pressure" of rebooting the decades old, much beloved franchise that is Star Trek?

star trek was really Lens Flare 2009 but in all seriousness he did mission impossible 3 which was a great and arguably the best of the 3. but that's a big budget gig going to another big budget gig (with cloverfield thrown in between)

big budget action seems to be stuff he's comfortable in. whedon just seem like the wrong guy for a huge blockbuster of all blockbuster style of movie. the last thing i want for this movie is to be underwhelming and so far this is whedon feels like

 

[roach]

Well Iron Man has been the only proven success they've had.

agreed. If Hulk did what they wanted there would be no guess work behind Hulk 2. Was anyone guessing on Iron Man 2???