The Avengers Joss Whedon leading on "Avengers" short list of directors

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roach said:
1. Mission Impossible 3 which while was good wasnt as big as 2 but they are letting him direct 4
2. Cloverfield...you may have heard of this little film

So the comparison is one director with two hit movies against one with none
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He didn't direct Cloverfield. And as of right now he is only producing the fourth, they're looking for a director as we speak.
 
Abrams didn't direct Cloverfield.

And really, if it isn't Whedon who would people want?

Leterrier? No thanks, COTT has left a stink on that man to me. Abrams I wouldn't mind, but that's not happening. People keep mentioning Ridley Scott, but seriously? Ridley Scott directing The Avengers? Does that sound as weird to anybody else as it does to me?
 
Ridley Scott could do whatever he wants and it would be epic and grandiose with rich characters that work in an ensemble.

But Vaughn should of got the gig.
 
Well, Whedon was gonna do Wonder Woman, which would have been just as big if he planned on having the whole origin done on Themyscara, having Ares be the villain, and all the setpieces.
 
Yellow Cyclone said:
pretty sure nobody bashed RDJ as the choice. probably on par, if not greater than bale when he was cast as batman. i mean c'mon...



star trek was really Lens Flare 2009 :cwink: but in all seriousness he did mission impossible 3 which was a great and arguably the best of the 3. but that's a big budget gig going to another big budget gig (with cloverfield thrown in between)

big budget action seems to be stuff he's comfortable in. whedon just seem like the wrong guy for a huge blockbuster of all blockbuster style of movie. the last thing i want for this movie is to be underwhelming and so far this is whedon feels like
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and JJ Abrams seems to know what people want to see. On tv he created Felicity, Alias, Lost and Fringe...all were massive hits
 
In a nutshell, if you want a take on sci-fi or action that has some twists that make you go "what the ****?!" Abrams is your dude.
 
Ace of Knaves said:
I just think giving this film, (now i am giving this opinion as someone completely ignoring their hate for Whedon) which is gonna be a reeeeally difficult film to do, with MASSIVE unheard of levels of pressure (yes bigger pressure than Iron Man, don't even dare delude yourself to that fact), to a guy with some TV shows and one movie under his belt is similar to taking a 2 year old child, throwing him in the deep end of a swimming pool without arm bands, then releasing ill tempered mutated sea bass with frickin laser beams attached to their heads into said swimming pool with said 2 year old.

I mean seriously, how can people not be a little cagey about this?

I'd say that about any rookie director, not just Whedon.
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In terms of what's at stake, I'm with you ..... I'd much rather prefer somebody with some experience under his belt helming a movie of this magnitude.
 
Ace of Knaves said:
I mean seriously, how can people not be a little cagey about this?
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Because the guy's a proven talent and known comics geek. The reason you're cagey and we're not is because you, and the others who don't like the choice, simply don't like what they've seen of his proven talent. Those of us who are psyched really do like his work. It's not hard to understand.

And personally, I think this is long overdue because, while I've loved JJ Abrams since the pilot of Alias, ever since I got familiar with Whedon's work, I've thought that he was actually the more talented of the two "pop TV auteurs" - Always working with smaller budgets than Abrams, but producing work that was generally more inventive and unique, with stronger characters and long-term storytelling. So when JJ found success in movies, I was happy for him while still having a nagging feeling that maybe it should've been Whedon first. But I get why it was JJ - he generally has more mainstream sensibilities, like a more talented, Twilight Zone-loving Michael Bay (I mean it in a good way, honest!).

So the point: I think the Abrams comparison is very, very apt here, as Whedon has at least as much proven talent as he did, if not more (imo), and re-booting Star Trek to appeal to a mainstream audience for the first time was almost as daunting a task as this. Almost.


ETA: Also worth noting - Abrams was HANDED a big-budget movie in his first outing because Tom Cruise just happened to be an Alias fan, and because Abrams's show just happened to be one big homage to the original Mission: Impossible. Whedon had nothing but an uphill battle to get his first film made, and still managed to make a great sci-fi action adventure for less than 1/3 the budget of Abrams's first film. Being able to make the most of a small budget should NOT be a mark against the guy. If anything, it should work in his favor. And if it had starred Tom Cruise and was a known brand to general audiences, it surely wouldn't have been a bomb.
 
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Don't give J.J. Abrams too much credit.He hasn't has much Involvement
with Lost since early In Season 1.Damon Lindeloff(who deserves more credit
for Star Trek along with Orci and Kurtzman since they actully knew Star Trek) along with Carlton Cuse are the ones who ran Lost not Abrams.And if you want to bash Joss whedon's works can I mention the terrable Superman
script that Abrams wrote with Kryptan not exploding,Clark Kent being raised to be ashmed of his origins,and Lex Luthor as a CiA Agent later reveled to be alien.
 
roach said:
agreed. If Hulk did what they wanted there would be no guess work behind Hulk 2. Was anyone guessing on Iron Man 2???
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it's kinda funny b/c hulk would've been more successful imo if they didn't interfere with it so much. i still wonder how much was really cut from the film
 
Chewy said:
You detest musicals and didn't like Whedon's musical. You hate the idea of teens mixed with vampires and didn't like Buffy.

Seems what you actually hate about these Whedon works is the concept, regardless of the execution.
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You'd be right except that I(very mildly) like some sci-fi once in a while and I hated Firefly/Serenity also. And Dollhouse, well I just didn't even bother with that at all. I think ultimately it's that I just don't jive to Whedon's style. I like Favreau's style better. I like Nolan's better as well(though not as much as Favreau's). I even like LL's style better(and I hated COTT). Same things could be said of Johnston & Branagh as well. But Whedon just rubs my rhubarb and always has. I would never have given him a toss to begin with except that all over the geek universe we keep getting thse Whedon fans claiming how oh so great he is and chanting it relentlessly. And just for comparison, I feel exactly the same about him as I do about Tim Burton. Everything he does also rubs my rhubarb.
 
kedrell said:
You'd be right except that I(very mildly) like some sci-fi once in a while and I hated Firefly/Serenity also. And Dollhouse, well I just didn't even bother with that at all. I think ultimately it's that I just don't jive to Whedon's style. I like Favreau's style better. I like Nolan's better as well(though not as much as Favreau's). I even like LL's style better(and I hated COTT). Same things could be said of Johnston & Branagh as well. But Whedon just rubs my rhubarb and always has. I would never have given him a toss to begin with except that all over the geek universe we keep getting thse Whedon fans claiming how oh so great he is and chanting it relentlessly. And just for comparison, I feel exactly the same about him as I do about Tim Burton. Everything he does also rubs my rhubarb.
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well if you put your rhubarb away no one would rub it
 
Also it seems like everybody gives Johnston crap cause he's not into the comics. Whedon practically lived in that universe for two years writing AXM.
 
I give Johnston crap because he seems to not understand superhero movies and seems to want to "TDK" Captain America.
 
Well, you don't want him to just follow suit with what every other director has done, to be honest.
 
Rock Sexton said:
In terms of what's at stake, I'm with you ..... I'd much rather prefer somebody with some experience under his belt helming a movie of this magnitude.
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The catch 22 is that directors with experience probably already have their own franchises to run.
 
What the hell is Marvel thinking lately?!

1. canceling Spectacular Spider-Man?

2. canceling Wolverine & the X-Men?

3. letting Whedon rewrite the scripts for both The Avengers and Captain America?

How can Marvel be this evil? Have they been infested by the Yeerks or something?
 
He is rewriting Cap????
I didnt see that anywhere
 
please please please drop the USO thing
 
dsfjr1190 said:
What the hell is Marvel thinking lately?!

1. canceling Spectacular Spider-Man?

2. canceling Wolverine & the X-Men?

3. letting Whedon rewrite the scripts for both The Avengers and Captain America?

How can Marvel be this evil? Have they been infested by the Yeerks or something?
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:dry:

Hiring Joss Whedon is EVIL now? :doh:
 
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