Jurassic World - - Part 11

[ShadowBoxer]

I am glad this movie is doing well.

 

[Decepticonus]

I loved the movie and have been wondering about the sequel and have some idea. During the film I was confused by InGen's presence. Hoskins just took control of the situation at the end of the film under orders of InGen, yet Masarani OWNS InGen. I read apparently InGen has connections with the U.N. Security Council. They have helped with stopping poaching with off coast Central American islands, plus were given a bigger budget with drones from Masrani and Hoskins turned what was originally a security unity for the park, workers and people into a paramilitary organization.

Hoskins got ahead of himself, this thing was becoming a PMC, wanting to sell their raptor idea to the U.N. or something. I mean can the franchise keep selling its self to tourists like in Park, World & Lost World... kinda. I do not think so. The military is the next natural approach. Dr. Wu seems like an evil bastard now. "You give me job if I create killer designed dinosaurs, sure!" We already did big bad corporation, maybe it's time for big bad military or big bad government. Personally, I say sell them to Putin who then uses dinosaurs to invade the rest of Europe. That would be a hit.

 

[Boom]

Man, I honestly feel disgusted making this argument because it really over-simplifies why being a "crowd-pleaser" isn't an indication of quality, but...

McDonalds. Taco-Bell. Pizza Hut.

All INSANELY POPULAR and profitable businesses/brands, and all in no way, shape, form or fashion the bar at which you should settle for quality. If you like any of those places, great. I'm not a snob by any means, and if that's all you know (or have been exposed to), then no one should reasonably expect or be offended that you didn't care for Nightcrawler, or that Inside Out wasn't the number 1 movie last week (or that Fury Road wasn't basically the number 1 movie until Inside Out debuted) but, that being said, "it's popular so it must be good on some level" is an equally weak argument.

Slavery was popular for a very long time. As were the banning of mixed-race and same-gender marriages. What's popular isn't always an indicator of what is good (or just).

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

During the film I was confused by InGen's presence. Hoskins just took control of the situation at the end of the film under orders of InGen, yet Masarani OWNS InGen.

Masrani is CEO, but InGen still has investors and a Board of Directors. With Masrani dead and Claire missing the field, the Board put Hoskins (as head of InGen's Security Division) in charge to deal with the emergency situation.

It is a bit more complicated than that as InGen is a subsidiary of Masrani's own company, but that's the general idea.

Masrani's big flaw is that he wasn't paying enough attention to what InGen was actually doing. He had very little clue of the workings of the park beyond the basics. He should have been way more observant.

 

[Manofplastic]

 

[smallville fan]

yeah there's quite the room for a follow-up there. very interesting how they left that end open. I liked how he played a villain in the movie, it actually makes a tie-in to the rest of the movies possible.

Seems like Nedry wasn't the sole 'bad guy' in there.

Henry Wu got away with murder, he fled the scene, there must be something more to it, and i kinda like how they portrayed InGen as a military ops outfit that intends to use them as weapons.

There's a lot to be taken for a story there.

I also liked how they gave themselves a solid answer to critics that are speaking against the Jurassic Park -dino universe. There's been hard debate and critisism against JP dino's to be thoroughly unscientific, as they should have feathers, the Velociraptor really is the Deinoychus, the Spino is bipedal instead of 4 smaller legs, etc. etc.

They stated they were engineered anyway so they're not realistic dinosaurs. "Genetically engineered theme-park monsters" as Mr. Malcolm so well put it at first.

I enjoyed the final T-rex reveal scene, it slowly coming up to the doors illuminated by the flare. Imho, bryce could have ran a bit further up ahead, but it was great.

must.have.special.edition.dvd.with.endless.extras

It'd be funny and ironic if Biosyn (the company that wanted Dino Embryos from the 1st movie and Telltale game) are the real good guys here this whole time.

Maybe the Jurassic Park movies are all about Henry Wu. Just like some say the Star Wars movies are all about R2 and C3PO.

How'd you connect Lost World and JP3 to Henry Wu?

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Sithborg]

All hail the Queen!

 

[Decepticonus]

Masrani is CEO, but InGen still has investors and a Board of Directors. With Masrani dead and Claire missing the field, the Board put Hoskins (as head of InGen's Security Division) in charge to deal with the emergency situation.

It is a bit more complicated than that as InGen is a subsidiary of Masrani's own company, but that's the general idea.

Masrani's big flaw is that he wasn't paying enough attention to what InGen was actually doing. He had very little clue of the workings of the park beyond the basics. He should have been way more observant.

But even before he died they were acting as their own company and trying to take authority over the situation from him and everyone else.

 

[Shikamaru]

My parents just got back from seeing it. First thing my mom said was "Chris Pratt is so cool!" t:

 

[TheDreamMaster]

I've seen it 3 times and I love it every one. Best film of the summer, hands down imo.

 

[Lily Adler]

Patiently awaiting for the brash, young soul who creates an Oscar thread for this film.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

But even before he died they were acting as their own company and trying to take authority over the situation from him and everyone else.

I guess I have to watch it again, because I don't remember them openly defying him while he was alive, only going behind his back.

 

[SpitCurl]

lmao, first time I've ever been multi-quoted. That's an honor in a perverted way (it often feels less like a conversation around here than a series of disjointed monologues).

Oh well if you find my analogy off. Everyone will be fine. And to the guy/girl offended at the slavery analogy, I'm also black, and you really shouldn't be (offended, I mean. Not black. Keep doing you, boo-boo). Put simply: lots of things can be popular without merit. Use whatever analogy you like. Boy bands. Iggy Azalea. It really doesn't matter. JW is popular, but that doesn't make it good. Plot holes, poor characterization, lazy scripting. Mediocre is mediocre, billion dollars be damned.

Good gifs, btw (no snark, I lol'd at all of these).

 

[Hurm...]

The fast food franchise analogy was good.

 

[Iceman]

My parents just got back from seeing it. First thing my mom said was "Chris Pratt is so cool!" t:

Haha, awesome.

 

[SpitCurl]

The fast food franchise analogy was good.

Apreesh t:

And really good avatar. Love that movie.

 

[I'm Venom]

Oh well if you find my analogy off. Everyone will be fine. And to the guy/girl offended at the slavery analogy, I'm also black, and you really shouldn't be (offended, I mean. Not black. Keep doing you, boo-boo). Put simply: lots of things can be popular without merit. Use whatever analogy you like. Boy bands. Iggy Azalea. It really doesn't matter. JW is popular, but that doesn't make it good. Plot holes, poor characterization, lazy scripting. Mediocre is mediocre, billion dollars be damned.

There's no doubt this movie was made for the fans. If you're a fan of Jurassic Park then you'll enjoy this. It's as simple as that

 

[Jack Napier]

More nonsense.

It's a mediocre movie. Praise it all you want, but it won't make it better.

 

[Jack Napier]

There's no doubt this movie was made for the fans. If you're a fan of Jurassic Park then you'll enjoy this. It's as simple as that

It's not as simple as that. I loved Jurassic Park because other than a clever plot, it had rich characterization. Even the supporting players had nuance. This had zero nuance and was all archetypes.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Rich characterization in Jurassic Park? That's the funniest thing I've read in days. Dem rose colored glasses are beyond strong. I agree that the characters were better in JP but rich they were not.

 

[Marvolo]

 

[Jack Napier]

Rich characterization in Jurassic Park? That's the funniest thing I've read in days. Dem rose colored glasses are beyond strong. I agree that the characters were better in JP but rich they were not.

You must not read a lot.

The rose-colored glasses belong to anyone who saw "Jurassic World" and thought the characters were interesting at all. Ask anyone a week later after they saw the movie and they have no idea what the kids' names are. Or Chris Pratt's character and he's the lead.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Rich characterization in Jurassic Park? That's the funniest thing I've read in days. Dem rose colored glasses are beyond strong. I agree that the characters were better in JP but rich they were not.

Would you consider Indy a rich character?

The very nature of JP lead to rich characterization imo. The questions posed lead to interesting, rich characters. JW is extremely generic in comparison. Still love it though.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

My post was not a defense of Jurassic World. Read my posts I have never even claimed that Jurassic World was a good film let alone a great one. I only said that it was very entertaining.

Independent of my thoughts of Jurassic World, I would not classify the characters in the original as great, rich characters. The characters were fine for the monster movie genre but that's about it.