Superman Returns Kevin Spacey = Gene Hackman

Spare-Flair said:
Well, it seems Singer is really going for a pre-crisis homage, makes sense if he's taking the old movies and also the really old costume and the clownish Lex.

Disappointing however. I guess a cute/shy/clumsy Clark Kent and a crazy and over the top expressive villain (See Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey as Two Face and Riddler urrrrrk!!!!) is more appealing to audiences? I HOPE NOT!
I guess you could use those examples. Or you could also use Joker and Green Goblin crazy type villains. Hell, even Doc Ock was pretty over the top.
 
Here's what I got from Spacey's portryal in the trailer:

Some of the most sadistic, twisted serial killers in history did not, on first glance, seem very crazy at all. In fact, they were often charming and sophisticated--only when they are set off do you really see the monster within.

In the first scenes, he seems very calm and collected--not exactly "evil," just very driven and cunning. In fact, in the beginning of the Lois and Lex scene, he seemed very good natured--only at the mention of Superman did Lex just snap and yell at her.

He is a very evil man, but he has enough charm to make it seem less aparent, and it's only the mention of Superman where he really goes berserk.
 
The character could have been plenty 'insane' without Spacey having to hop, skip and almost break into dance...gimme a break.

Lex's insanity, to me anyways, was his singular goal to destroy superman...no matter what he had to do and how many people were slaughtered in the process - screaming at lois and a kid, giggling...this is sheer camp-factor and nothing else.
 
skruloos said:
I guess you could use those examples. Or you could also use Joker and Green Goblin crazy type villains. Hell, even Doc Ock was pretty over the top.

The point is that the Joker and the Green Goblin are supposed to be over the top borderline insane. So is Doc Ock to a degree (and his presentation in Spider-Man 2 was pretty bad).

This is Lex Luthor - possibly the smartest human in control of all his faculties. He has no need for the whole song and dance routine and giddy maniac behavior. I don't want the Gene Hackman characterization. I'm not decided on the Clark yet, but I suppose people will want the pre-crisis clumsy mild-mannered Clark routine and I can live with that.
 
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Oh great, didn't Luthor learn anything from Superman I???

Why is it the same plot again??? Oh gee, not the stupid going to blow off a part of the land mass of the United States (when it is impossible since it is connected to the earth's crust) evil plot again. Even the original Superman's plot was more realistic because it dealt with the San Andreas Fault.

He just decided to go with the other side of the country this time to create his private real estate instead of dropping California into the ocean to make his land beachfront property.
 
dark_b said:
the wroooooooong line was incredible. from mr. nice guy to a mutha***er.

AMEN :up::up:

It was a complete 180 in behavior that made me watch just that segment over and over...it's teh Maniacal Luthor we've waited for!!
 
He's just being a hedonist, and enjoying having the upper hand. It's not camp, and he's not going to be dancing around in every scene. Get over it. It's pretty much right in character, and Spacey's interpretation certainly works in context.
 
You're always right and I know it, but there's something in my head that says I wish he did it more like nolan or himself even. Make lex like ra's or

magneto too... he's good with villians.

He should have been like magneto. in m y oopinion
 

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