Let's Lie to a Kid with Cancer AND Down-Syndrome

[Hotwire]

As someone who's told a deathbed lie, I'll chime in. If it makes that person's last days better, what's the big deal? When my aunt was dieing from all sorts of respiratory problems, her blood oxygen levels were so low, it was causing dementia. While sitting with her, she asked me my my grandfather hadn't called her recently. I could have told her the truth, given that he'd been dead for over 20 years or, I could lie. I told her I wasn't sure and I'd ask him when I got home. Yeah, I lied. I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

 

[Schlosser85]

Someday you might find yourself in that situation, and I hope you have a friend like Helen Mirren...who's willing to plunge her hands into the filth...so the Queen can keep hers clean!!!

 

[Thundercrack85]

Personally, I always want the truth, no matter what it is.

But I can appreciate the fact that not everyone shares that distinction.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Personally, I always want the truth, no matter what it is.

But I can appreciate the fact that not everyone shares that distinction.

So families hiding Jews during the holocaust should have just told the Gestapo the truth about where they were hiding?

Point being, sometimes you have to hide the truth when revealing it would have bad or evil consequences.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

We also tell kids that Santa is real until they're 10, so does a terminal kid with down-syndrome really need to have it explained to him that the Queen having tea with him is an impostor? I bet Helen Mirren playing the Queen is a helluva lot more fun than the actual Queen herself.

 

[Thundercrack85]

So families hiding Jews during the holocaust should have just told the Gestapo the truth about where they were hiding?

Wow that is the single dumbest comparison (?) I have ever read on this forum. Seriously.

I meant it as in "give it to me straight, doc". Or, mom, dad, don't bring a (great) actress and tell me she's the queen.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

We also tell kids that Santa is real until they're 10, so does a terminal kid with down-syndrome really need to have it explained to him that the Queen having tea with him is an impostor? I bet Helen Mirren playing the Queen is a helluva lot more fun than the actual Queen herself.

We should punch every kid in the face that believes in Santa Clause. Only solution. This is leading to moral decay.

 

[Schlosser85]

Personally, I think telling kids Santa/The Easter Bunny/etc. is real, even going to elaborate lengths to perpetuate this, until they turn 10 (or whatever designated age the parents decide is too old to keep believing this) and then whip it out from under them, is cruel.

I cried my eyes out when my parents sat me down and told me Santa didn't exist.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I think it's a bit different though, since presumably you know one day that your kid will learn Santa isn't real. He's not on his deathbed.

I never really had to deal with that though, since I never believe in any of it.

 

[zeroapoc]

Screw the Queen, he got to meet Hellen Mirren.

This.

 

[Schlosser85]

I just don't really get the point of spending ten years raising your child to believe in something and then one day be like LOL, JK.

 

[Thundercrack85]

It's whimsical crap. Kids love that. Fairies, trolls, unicorns, etc.

It's like camp ghost stories.

For some reason ghosts always seemed more plausible to me than an old fat man delivering toys to the entire world in one night.

I never knew anyone who thought there was an actual easter bunny though.

 

[Schlosser85]

I don't remember ever really seriously believing in the Easter Bunny, but my parents went to silly lengths to try to make me, as plenty of parents do.

One would lure me out of the house, the other would noisily slam the door, etc., they'd act all alarmed/confused, we'd go inside and there'd be eggs scattered around, lol.

It sounds so ridiculous but I know other parents who did the same things.

 

[Anubis]

So families hiding Jews during the holocaust should have just told the Gestapo the truth about where they were hiding?

Point being, sometimes you have to hide the truth when revealing it would have bad or evil consequences.

Heh, Godwin's Law.

 

[Lighthouse]

Screw the Queen, he got to meet Hellen Mirren.

This.

 

[bullets]

I just don't really get the point of spending ten years raising your child to believe in something and then one day be like LOL, JK.

I hope your kidding.

 

[Schlosser85]

....no?

 

[Thundercrack85]

I think we can all agree that easter eggs are awesome though.

 

[bullets]

Man, what kind of queen denies a dying 10-year old boy's fairly simple wish? She couldn't have scheduled him in? Really?

Stay classy, your majesty.

She should be fired !

 

[Asteroid-Man]

My parents raised me to know he was fake. They told me not to tell the white kids though.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

But... Batman is real, right? RIGHT?

 

[ThePhantasm]

Wow that is the single dumbest comparison (?) I have ever read on this forum. Seriously.

I meant it as in "give it to me straight, doc". Or, mom, dad, don't bring a (great) actress and tell me she's the queen.

I wasn't "comparing" anything. You said you always wanted the truth, no matter what it is. I brought up an extreme situation to test that statement.

Honestly it wasn't that obvious what you meant. It was a really blanket statement in the middle of a conversation about whether there are situations that allow for justified lying. I don't think a reductio ad absurdum was out of place.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I still don't see how you got that from "I always want the truth", but alright.

 

[Anubis]

But... Batman is real, right? RIGHT?

He was but he died of syphilis complications in the 80's.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

But... Batman is real, right? RIGHT?

I'm Batman.