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I died 27 times today.
Stop yanking it so much then.....you'll chafe
I died 27 times today.
You're completely going on the total negative possibility of what i'm saying.How do you expect physicists to solve that problem? This is the most asinine point yet. The problem is that you're certainly not the first person to make it. So, I reiterate: you're saying that physicists should just quit.
Obviously, they're not studying anything worthwhile.
this comes down to simply business application of supply and demand, it works in all forms of life.Yes, I lack the ability to reason effectively. How superior you must be.
What are the physicists supposed to do? Sit on their thumbs while some microbiologists/bioengineers spend decades trying to cure AIDS? Why not make progress in other fields simultaneously?
Makes sense to me.
I personally don't think this region of physics is going to enrich our way of life or better the way we live today.They're looking for bits and pieces of information that can help us see the bigger picture. They're not looking for absolute and definite answers with respect to the origin of the universe.
This just happens to be the next step for physicists. There are already people with funding working on other problems. Let the physicists do their damn job.
I understand your bias and your point, but this research is far from useless. That's my stand.
You're completely going on the total negative possibility of what i'm saying.
the problem is there isn't a problem. They are trying to answer questions for the sake of it or to try and confirm some theories. THese theories are going to broaden the scope of human knowledge but aren't going to solve any of today's world problems.
I'm not saying physicists should quit, it's not about the physicists, its about the governing bodies that supply grant money on this scale.
Does the money spent justify the results obtained and does it justify money from other areas being cut for research and general aid funding for other more problematic issues of today.
If this experiement is done this year, next year or in 50 years, will it really hinder our way of life to have it postponed till the world is a better overall place.
I personally don't think this region of physics is going to enrich our way of life or better the way we live today.
At most it will just add to the literature that others can work on in the future until they get something out of it.
in the mean time, i just feel that there are more pressing issues with the world and funding for these large scale experiments are shortening their resources.
I have nothing against the work itself and what it can lead to, it's just a case of priority.
It's not naiive, any discoveries made, especially energy ones are going to be carefully held on to and used to make profit rather than benefit others leaving a larger divide between the poverty line.
Again, I'm not saying that all research should cease, I made a comparison to a business budget and that R and D values should remain constant while real short term issues get the priority of budgets.
I'm certainly not an AIDS/HIV expert or anything of those sorts. I just know that a large percentage of research institutions get their grants from government bodies and it's at the early budget parts where everything is separated out. WHen research bodies make claims about new exciting discoveries, they are more likely to accept fundings rather than people going on about trying to fix something that's not going to go away easily. it's just human nature.
The fact it's the largest scaled experiment ever done with billions being chucked into it just gives the impression the money is being giving just to see 'what happens' and I personally don't think it will provide many more answers than previous experiments. Maybe with that in mind, calculating the cost of it all can show it would have been better used in maybe other research institutions on a wider scale or used for other government bodies to deal with the day to day grind.
When you hear of community centres being closed down due to a lack of government funding or hospital not being able to provide people with vaccinnes because they can't afford them, then the issue does raise up issues.
in short, limit experimentation or large scale costly experimentation until socio-economical problems have reached a controlled stability. Continue low key research, theory and analysis.
That's all fine.I don't know where the funding for this project is coming from....but, for arguments sake, let's say it's all coming from a private company...any discoveries made are that companies property and they are free to do with as they wish....it's called the free market.....No one is obligated to be a humanitarian....
It's not naiive, any discoveries made, especially energy ones are going to be carefully held on to and used to make profit rather than benefit others leaving a larger divide between the poverty line.
Again, I'm not saying that all research should cease, I made a comparison to a business budget and that R and D values should remain constant while real short term issues get the priority of budgets.
I'm certainly not an AIDS/HIV expert or anything of those sorts. I just know that a large percentage of research institutions get their grants from government bodies and it's at the early budget parts where everything is separated out. WHen research bodies make claims about new exciting discoveries, they are more likely to accept fundings rather than people going on about trying to fix something that's not going to go away easily. it's just human nature.
The fact it's the largest scaled experiment ever done with billions being chucked into it just gives the impression the money is being giving just to see 'what happens' and I personally don't think it will provide many more answers than previous experiments. Maybe with that in mind, calculating the cost of it all can show it would have been better used in maybe other research institutions on a wider scale or used for other government bodies to deal with the day to day grind.
When you hear of community centres being closed down due to a lack of government funding or hospital not being able to provide people with vaccinnes because they can't afford them, then the issue does raise up issues.
in short, limit experimentation or large scale costly experimentation until socio-economical problems have reached a controlled stability. Continue low key research, theory and analysis.
The government won't directly fund a project like this... the only funding they give is to the general research they have already been giving out to the fields along with a few loans and grants like everything else. Most of the money probably came from the special interests.
dun dun duuuunnlhc shuts down after serious malfunction
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=9833012&ch=4226714&src=news
LHC shuts down after serious malfunction
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=9833012&ch=4226714&src=news