Logical Timeline Between Origin To X1

[TheDarkKnight08]

This leads me to the theory of Quicksilver and Scarelet Witch being in this movie

I wouldn't put them in this one, but I can definitely see them in Magneto's movie.

 

[Congo Jack]

2000 - Wolverine Meets Rogue, Magneto hatches his plans to turn all humans into mutants. He is stopped by Xavier's X-Men including Wolverine. Magneto is placed in a plastic prision. Wolverine Leaves the instatue to find himself.

X-MEN takes place in 'the near future'.

 

[TheVelvetOnion]

I know they say The Near Future, but it just doesnt make logical sense because in X-Men 3 there is a moment where you see the date and its 2006 - so the near future im guessing is just really saying sometime soon.

 

[Peter McCabe]

X-MEN takes place in 'the near future'.

Its actually "The not too distant future."

Could be a year from now, could be tomorrow.

 

[MoPlaYa]

Ok here is my idea of the x-men related history... based on what we know from the x-men trilogy and what we know of x-men origin so far.

1880..ish - Logan is born

1930's...ish - Charles Xavier and Eric Lenshire is born.

1944 - Eric escapes the concentration camp. Logan, Sabretooth fights alongside Captain America... (Not actually mentioned but figure its something they might throw in avengers movie)

1960's - Charles Xavier and Eric Lenshire fight in Viatnam, they meet and find they both have powers. they form a friendship and decide they want to help others like them. Also during this period of time, Logan and Sabretooth fight in viatnam. Styker also a solider in viatnam. During this period of time Beast is born.

1970's - Styker is put in charge of the mutant problem, finds out his son is a mutant and his wife dies, he goes on a bid to rid the world of mutants. However his mentality is to keep is friends close and his enemies even closer. mutants are captured and collected for research... probably by a scienst working for him...Sinister LOL During this period of time Cyclops, Jean, Storm, Mystique and Toad where born. Xavier meets Beast for the first time pre-blue fur and is one of the first mutants to be helped. Possible Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are born.

1983 - Stryker captures Wolverine and the X-Men Origin Wolverine movie takes place. Cyclops and Storm are freed and rescue Jason who run into Charles Xavier. They are taken into the school to be trained to use there gifts, Magneto starts to have a difference of opinion after meeting Stryker. Infact he meets Mystique and Sabretooth for the first time and forms his own small brotherhood. Later they meet with Jean from X-Men Last Stand opening.

1988 - Stykers son goes bizarre after Magneto warps his mind, Xavier can not help him and instead the students stop him thus forming an early X-Men team. Magneto disagrees with Xaviers methods and they part ways. Wolverine makes his way to Japan to train his animalistic insticts.

1990's - Wolverine fights hydra, moves to canada ends up heading towards Alaska fighting for money. Magneto forms his brotherhood and plots his change everyone into mutant plans (x1) Mystique informs Magneto of someone who can obsorb his powers and power the machine. Rogue but she is not powerful enough to take the full power, magneto tells mystique to keep an eye over her.

2000 - Rogue meets wolverine (x1 starts)

Well thats how i feel the essence of the movie has been placed.

I think you hit the nail on the head.!!!

 

[CyclopsSummers]

Logan's operation takes place 15 years before X1

 

[Hellcycle2000]

thanks

 

[TheDarkKnight08]

the only thing i can think of for the dog tags different & memory is, maybe in the sequel, logan ends up back w/ stryker, stryker promises to try to remove the adamantium, instead tricks him in the tank & tries to kill him + erases his memory again, so the flashback with the young striker & different dog tag in X2 could somehow work.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I too am wondering if Victor Creed in X-Men Origins: Wolverine might not be the same character (X-Men films wise) as Sabretooth in X-Men.

In X-Men, Sabretooth is never referred to as Victor Creed (and I don't know if the credits credit him as "Victor Creed / Sabretooth"), and I wouldn't be surprised if X-Men Origins: Wolverine never refers to him as Sabretooth.

Therefore, in the continuity, although our comic book fan brain says that Victor Creed = Sabretooth, in the X-Men films, Victor Creed =/= Sabretooth.

 

[Peter McCabe]

I too am wondering if Victor Creed in X-Men Origins: Wolverine might not be the same character (X-Men films wise) as Sabretooth in X-Men.

In X-Men, Sabretooth is never referred to as Victor Creed (and I don't know if the credits credit him as "Victor Creed / Sabretooth"), and I wouldn't be surprised if X-Men Origins: Wolverine never refers to him as Sabretooth.

Therefore, in the continuity, although our comic book fan brain says that Victor Creed = Sabretooth, in the X-Men films, Victor Creed =/= Sabretooth.

See, I hope they don't go in that direction, the whole "Creed is one person and Sabretooth is another".

I'm hoping the X1 Sabretooth is either completely disregarded or just labeled a failed experiment/clone that got a hold of the REAL Creed's dog
tags.

The way I see it, this film is a message to the public that says "Wolverine will now operate in this franchise, his franchise."

Reinventing Sabretooth, Stryker and the tags are further representations of that concept IMO.

 

[TheDarkKnight08]

I too am wondering if Victor Creed in X-Men Origins: Wolverine might not be the same character (X-Men films wise) as Sabretooth in X-Men.

In X-Men, Sabretooth is never referred to as Victor Creed (and I don't know if the credits credit him as "Victor Creed / Sabretooth"), and I wouldn't be surprised if X-Men Origins: Wolverine never refers to him as Sabretooth.

Therefore, in the continuity, although our comic book fan brain says that Victor Creed = Sabretooth, in the X-Men films, Victor Creed =/= Sabretooth.

I think they might be. I'm still not sure, but I don't think Fox would cluster**** something like that, no matter how dumb they are.

 

[Legion]

See, I hope they don't go in that direction, the whole "Creed is one person and Sabretooth is another".

I'm hoping the X1 Sabretooth is either completely disregarded or just labeled a failed experiment/clone that got a hold of the REAL Creed's dog
tags.

The way I see it, this film is a message to the public that says "Wolverine will now operate in this franchise, his franchise."

Reinventing Sabretooth, Stryker and the tags are further representations of that concept IMO.

I would prefer they disregard Sabretooth in X1 or make them separate characters. I don't want clones or anything corny like that. I don't think they should spend any amount of time in this film to explain why a character sucked in a another movie.

 

[TheDarkKnight08]

I would prefer they disregard Sabretooth in X1 or make them separate characters. I don't want clones or anything corny like that. I don't think they should spend any amount of time in this film to explain why a character sucked in a another movie.

As much as I think they should link the characters, I don't get what all this clone ******** is about. What the hell is this, The 6th Day?

 

[Peter McCabe]

As much as I think they should link the characters, I don't get what all this clone ******** is about. What the hell is this, The 6th Day?

Even though I prefer the "disregarding X1 Sabretooth" idea, I gotta ask WHAT is the problem with clones?

Benioff did a good job with his use for them in the script, and obviously producer Jackman and director Hood approved.

Clones do exist people, and in time they will be people.

Oh, and did I mention this was a sci-fi/action movie about 200-year-old indestructible wolfmen?

 

[TheDarkKnight08]

Even though I prefer the "disregarding X1 Sabretooth" idea, I gotta ask WHAT is the problem with clones?

I don't know. I know this is a sci-fi movie, I just don't see "clones" fitting into this X-Universe. Singer set this series down to be realistic. Not Nolan realistic, but in the sense of "if these mutants existed in our world, this is howit would go." Clones seems a little far-fetched, like a giant purple storm cloud, but we all know how that went.

Benioff did a good job with his use for them in the script, and obviously producer Jackman and director Hood approved.

I didn't read the script, so I wouldn't know. Plus, movies go through changes during production, so the clones may or may not appear.

Clones do exist people, and in time they will be people.

You kinda scared/made me laugh with this one.

Oh, and did I mention this was a sci-fi/action movie about 200-year-old indestructible wolfmen?

Yes, and your point with this is? While both lend themselves towards sci-fi, clones ahve been overdone, and cheap excuses to inject "suspense" into a movie. Plus, where the hell did you get wolfmen from?

 

[sabetoonth]

wolverine, sabertooth? they have enough hair to be catagorized s such

 

[The Englishman]

I don't know. I know this is a sci-fi movie, I just don't see "clones" fitting into this X-Universe. Singer set this series down to be realistic. Not Nolan realistic, but in the sense of "if these mutants existed in our world, this is howit would go." Clones seems a little far-fetched, like a giant purple storm cloud, but we all know how that went.



I didn't read the script, so I wouldn't know. Plus, movies go through changes during production, so the clones may or may not appear.



You kinda scared/made me laugh with this one.



Yes, and your point with this is? While both lend themselves towards sci-fi, clones ahve been overdone, and cheap excuses to inject "suspense" into a movie. Plus, where the hell did you get wolfmen from?

Why did this make you laugh?? Cloned animals do exist.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

Anyway, X1 Sabretooth and X-origins Sabretooth are the same
no reasons so that ther're not the same

 

[Peter McCabe]

Anyway, X1 Sabretooth and X-origins Sabretooth are the same
no reasons so that ther're not the same

This has not been confirmed.

If we're lucky, X1 Sabretooth was just a product of our imagination.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

Its impossible

what could we say to confirm X1 Sabretooth is not XO Sabretooth

 

[Peter McCabe]

Its impossible

what could we say to confirm X1 Sabretooth is not XO Sabretooth

No, its not, specially considering that this is a sci-fi action film.

Here are the two main ways to eliminate X1 Sabretooth from being Liev Schreiber Sabretooth:

-X1 Sabretooth is one of David Benioff's infamous clones, made from the original Creed's DNA.

-X1 Sabretooth was a poser, a man (or sasquatch) who simply took the name "Sabretooth" after finding the tags that belonged to the true Creed.

And now my personal choice, which I hope they go for:

-X1 Sabretooth NEVER happened.

That would work well with...

-Stryker is no longer southern, and he is now more diabolical.

 

[BMM]

As much as I think they should link the characters, I don't get what all this clone ******** is about. What the hell is this, The 6th Day?

I agree. The clones are a tacky idea.

 

[EnDz0n3]

That would work well with...

-Stryker is no longer southern, and he is now more diabolical.

Storm lost her accent between films as well, so I don't think the speech patterns of a character should be used for or against an argument.

I don't get the diabolical part tho...

And..yea...please no clones...

 

[CyclopsSummers]

No, its not, specially considering that this is a sci-fi action film.

Here are the two main ways to eliminate X1 Sabretooth from being Liev Schreiber Sabretooth:

-X1 Sabretooth is one of David Benioff's infamous clones, made from the original Creed's DNA.

-X1 Sabretooth was a poser, a man (or sasquatch) who simply took the name "Sabretooth" after finding the tags that belonged to the true Creed.

And now my personal choice, which I hope they go for:

-X1 Sabretooth NEVER happened.

That would work well with...

-Stryker is no longer southern, and he is now more diabolical.

I hope XO Sabret is X1 Sabret t:

 

[X-Maniac]

In the Empire magazine article, it says the name Sabretooth isn't used in the Wolverine movie. Although Liev Schreiber said in an interview that he was credited as Sabretooth.

I think not using the Sabretooth name would be fine.

I'm sure the differing Sabretooths won't be the only disparity. Only on here could we see such unrelenting raking over the coals for every millisecond of footage and every molecule of information. Everything - hate and worship - is so magnified on here!

The Magneto screenplay I have here has several things that were not what X1 had stated/implied. Boo-hoo.