Logical Timeline Between Origin To X1

[Congo Jack]

I think Jackman's got 10 more years of Wolverine in his future.

I think when Hugh is 50, he will look more like Wolverine from the comics as he gets more rugged looking.

 

[Infinity9999x]

And I agree: Sabretooth from X-1 was a moron, but we have to face the fact that they're going with continuity. That's all I'm saying. I'd rather they not try to explain it cheaply with clones, since that is, as another poster said here, cliched.

It is cliched, however, I can't think of a better alternative at the moment. I don't want Schriber to turn into Mane because if this movie is good I'd like a sequel, maybe multiple sequels, and you know that Sabertooth would probably be in one or more of those.

The only other idea I've heard is that the Mane Sabertooth was a wandering mutant wildman who found Creed's dog tags at one point and assumed that name. Heck, I'd even be cool if they said that Mane was actually Wildchild. I just don't want to have Schiber become Mane because I want to keep the Sabertooth character open for sequels.

 

[sniktsnakt]

I think when Hugh is 50, he will look more like Wolverine from the comics as he gets more rugged looking.

Hmm. True.

 

[PTZ]

Jackman also said he doesn't want to play Wolverine for the rest of his life. That caused a bunch of fans to think X3 would be his last movie and that Wolverine might never happen.

Maybe he's had time to rethink that, seeing as many of his post-X3 movies have not done all that well. He needs some sure hits to keep the big money.

That's not an insult to Hugh, btw. He's just gotten stuck with some bad films.

 

[TheDarkKnight08]

Maybe he's had time to rethink that, seeing as many of his post-X3 movies have not done all that well. He needs some sure hits to keep the big money.

That's not an insult to Hugh, btw. He's just gotten stuck with some bad films.

Only bad film I've seen come from him recently is Deception. The Prestige was amazing, and was received well critically and financially, and while the Fountain wasn't a box-office sensation, it was received well by fans. Deception was just a pile of **** trying to be the other piles of **** good movies like Basic Instinct and Fatal Attraction inspired.

 

[PTZ]

Have you seen Australia? If not, DON'T. Hugh isn't bad, but the movie is just not good and Kidman is horrid.

 

[sniktsnakt]

Have you seen Australia? If not, DON'T. Hugh isn't bad, but the movie is just not good and Kidman is horrid.

Eh . . . I think it depends on taste. I, for one, loved it.

Sure, it's long, but I'd say give it a chance at least. You may hate it, you may love it, but it's worth a shot.

 

[Peter McCabe]

Have you seen Australia? If not, DON'T. Hugh isn't bad, but the movie is just not good and Kidman is horrid.

are you kidding me???

how could you not have enjoyed Australia???

First person I hear that didnt like it.

 

[PTZ]

Really? I could name you off several people I know that didn't like it, but I guess it's all opinion. I'd have liked it better without Nicole Kidman in that role.

 

[TheDarkKnight08]

Have you seen Australia? If not, DON'T. Hugh isn't bad, but the movie is just not good and Kidman is horrid.

Aah, forgot about that one. Well, I haven't seen it, so I can't say, but I hvae heard it wasn't the best movie.

 

[danoyse]

Have you seen Australia? If not, DON'T. Hugh isn't bad, but the movie is just not good and Kidman is horrid.

I've seen it twice. The movie was great (the little boy's performance was especially spectacular), and I thought Kidman was fine. I simply do not get all the animosity about her lately.

I hated Deception, but I loved The Prestige and The Fountain. I also saw Hugh on Broadway in The Boy From Oz 5 times. Trust me, if you haven't seen him performing on stage, then you've only seen a fraction of what he's capable of. The guy is just a phenomenal performer.

I love him as Wolverine, but I really do hope he gets some other decent roles soon - and another run on Broadway would be great. I keep hearing rumors that may happen in 2010.

 

[Rich Santoro]

Well... if I had it my way, XO: Wolverine would establish an entirely new timeline that would lead to a 1990s set film with the original 5 X-men, then sequels that completely over-write the current X-Trilogy... Continuity be damned... I want better movies, that is truer to the source material.

 

[sniktsnakt]

Well... if I had it my way, XO: Wolverine would establish an entirely new timeline that would lead to a 1990s set film with the original 5 X-men, then sequels that completely over-write the current X-Trilogy... Continuity be damned... I want better movies, that is truer to the source material.

Wouldn't mind it myself, but I can't see it happening. Not a chance.

 

[Peter McCabe]

Well... if I had it my way, XO: Wolverine would establish an entirely new timeline that would lead to a 1990s set film with the original 5 X-men, then sequels that completely over-write the current X-Trilogy... Continuity be damned... I want better movies, that is truer to the source material.

Continuity isn't everything.

Punisher War Zone being exhibit A.

Singer's movies were good and should not be rebooted just because they weren't exact replicas of the source material.

This movie, in fact Jackman himself goes against the comics with his stature, behavior and history.

Leave the comics at home where they belong and enjoy what you see in the theatres.

 

[Rich Santoro]

Leave the comics at home where they belong and enjoy what you see in the theatres.

I enjoyed them (well, X3... not so much)... And I certainly feel that I would have enjoyed them more if the story and character development would been more closely related to the actual source. Not for the sake of continuity with the comic book cannon, but rather because there is 40+ years of story and character development that had stuff way better than the films. Various elements of the films were great... but the story arc of the initial team of teenage misfits is something that would work great.

That would be a great starting point. Alas, I know that this is the senseless dreams of a fan-boy... I'm just saying.

 

[TNC9852002]

I understand how important comic book continuity is, but it's clear in most cases that it should be only used as a backdrop and for story purposes, but it shouldn't be followed exactly if it'll inhibit the story. You need to sometimes modify, change names, and move times around in order to make the best movie possible. Like I said before, Batman Begins and TDK were the perfect examples of using the basic source material, but changing aspects around a bit to make the best movie possible.

One of the disadvantages of the X-Men franchises originates entirely upon the struggles from making the very first film. I have 100% confidence that IF X-Men was given the appropriate funding and time that Bryan Singer hoped for, that we would've gotten, not necessarily a better movie, but a movie with more attributed from the comics, not necessarily in terms of accuracy, but of a quantitative measure. Since the following sequels had to draw everything from that, it was definitely an influential aspect into all that followed.

as for accountability on X3's part, I'm sure there's more than enough blame to put on just one person. In my eyes, it was a combination of decision making from the actors. Bryan Singer, Matthew Vaughn, Zak Penn, Simon Kinberg, Studio producers, Brett Ratner, and maybe even more. There were so many hands put into X3's production, you could take your pick for whatever you liked or didn't like about the movie. Honestly, the movie is actually quite good, but it just failed to meet such high expectations. It also makes you realize how special and important X1 and particularly X2 really were, despite people's opinions about them now.

-TNC

 

[Eelectro 2]

i don't know why people haven't alluded to the possibility of creed's mind being erased at the end of the movie. he doesn't kno who he is, but he picks up wolverine's scent and is unsure of why he takes the dog tags. i know it sounds hoaky, but i would prefer that versus trying to believe that sabretooth in x1 isnt' the same character. thats just stupid. people who dont' know anything from the comics are going to see wolverine fighting a guy with fangs, nails that look EXACTLY like sabretooth from x1, who also is capable of healing (which is pretty evident in x1 seeing as how he gets stabbed quite a bit). this is all happening 15 years before x1 so there's plenty of time for something to change. i just hope they address that. makes as much sense as this movie leading directly into x1. nobody can be that stupid....

 

[Peter McCabe]

i don't know why people haven't alluded to the possibility of creed's mind being erased at the end of the movie. he doesn't kno who he is, but he picks up wolverine's scent and is unsure of why he takes the dog tags. i know it sounds hoaky, but i would prefer that versus trying to believe that sabretooth in x1 isnt' the same character. thats just stupid. people who dont' know anything from the comics are going to see wolverine fighting a guy with fangs, nails that look EXACTLY like sabretooth from x1, who also is capable of healing (which is pretty evident in x1 seeing as how he gets stabbed quite a bit). this is all happening 15 years before x1 so there's plenty of time for something to change. i just hope they address that. makes as much sense as this movie leading directly into x1. nobody can be that stupid....

Once again, continuity isnt everything.

There's nothing stupid about re-inventing a character that was treated poorly in an earlier rendition.

What woulda been stupid is for Hugh Jackman to have gotten Tyler Mane to reprise the role. He did not approach Mane because Mane's character was no good hence the casting of Schreiber as Creed.

Jackman didn't care about continuity in regards to Sabes and nor should we.

 

[FaT_tONle]

That's a good point ^^^.

 

[Psykoelf]

Maybe he's had time to rethink that, seeing as many of his post-X3 movies have not done all that well. He needs some sure hits to keep the big money.

That's not an insult to Hugh, btw. He's just gotten stuck with some bad films.

He doesn't necessarily have to do film as he is an accomplished stage actor as well. Maybe in years to come we could have Wolverine: The Musical or the boy from X

 

[sniktsnakt]

He doesn't necessarily have to do film as he is an accomplished stage actor as well. Maybe in years to come we could have Wolverine: The Musical or the boy from X

lol! t:t:

 

[PTZ]

He doesn't necessarily have to do film as he is an accomplished stage actor as well. Maybe in years to come we could have Wolverine: The Musical or the boy from X

Or they could do a prequel like Wicked and have Wolverine and Sabretooh start out as roomates in college.

 

[Peter McCabe]

Or they could do a prequel like Wicked and have Wolverine and Sabretooh start out as roomates in college.

I would watch that.

 

[PTZ]

Once again, continuity isnt everything.

There's nothing stupid about re-inventing a character that was treated poorly in an earlier rendition.

What woulda been stupid is for Hugh Jackman to have gotten Tyler Mane to reprise the role. He did not approach Mane because Mane's character was no good hence the casting of Schreiber as Creed.

Jackman didn't care about continuity in regards to Sabes and nor should we.

Exactly. I prefer to just forget that Sabes was ever in X1. But if you need continuity and don't like the clone theory, then just say he was a fraud who stole Victor Creed's identity.

 

[Peter McCabe]

Exactly. I prefer to just forget that Sabes was ever in X1. But if you need continuity and don't like the clone theory, then just say he was a fraud who stole Victor Creed's identity.

I like that.

Mane didnt deserve to be called Sabretooth, so Liev better not be stripped of the title.