Webhead2006
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i would like that myself fade.
I don' know if it can be quantified as most or some.
I don't think DavidTyler was talking about the test tube baby or cold Krypton.
These ideas were not my cup of tea either.
No idea how/why one would even bother making Superman a tubie.
Some of the Byrne idea I do like. Corporate Lex is a good one IMHO.
I don't care for Wolfman's writing either, although at least he writes on a readable level unlike Byrne. Most of the Byrne ideas you mention are generally seen as failures as they have all been rejected and replaced, like his cold Krypton and test tube baby Superman. I was very very glad to see that those ideas failed and were abandoned.
And your failed interpretation of Maggin's Luthor is just obscene. You need to reread his writing. I will say Corporate Lex is a better villain, but not a more developed or 3 dimensional character. He has little depth beyond being a ruthless manipulator and he is basically a soap opera type continuing villain. Not to mention Superman's inability to stop him for years made Supes look ineffective. He's just a skinnier Kingpin/Justin Hammer clone. But as I said, I accept him, because if you're a purist Superman fan you expect to put up with ****.
I would prefer they not go that route. After all, what does it say about Lois personally or professionally if she's enamored with someone like Lex Flippin' Luthor? She's a journalist.
UH..... EXCUSE ME?!!!
Lex in his prison cell talking to Superman who came to enlist his aid responds by putting his foot up on a stool and pretends to tie the one still on the floor to demonstrate how a Kryptonian ties a shoe.... Yeah... I remember it really well. It was not the brightest moment in that book. I love that book and think the world of Maggin but it's not something I would overlook.
Corporate Lex was created by Wolfman as a ripoff of Kingpin and Justin Hammer. Maggin created Lexcorp which Wolfman stole the credit and the money for. What Byrne did that stuck was Clark as the real person (a betrayal of Siegel and Shuster), lower power level, more Marvelized slugfests, Lana knowing he is Clark and Ma and Pa Kent still alive. What didn't stick was cold Krypton, test tube baby Superman, no Superboy, no other Kryptonians, and the power changes like how they made Superman a tk/psionic powered character (invulnerability aura, moving weights with a forcefield aura, etc) and not a physical powerhouse. Johns seems to be splitting the difference with most things, which will either make a good compromise or just make everyone mad.
They could also do it another way, and have Luthor actually have a good side to him, like he used to. Then others could like him without seeming like oblivious idiots. Especially in Lois' case, who's supposed to be a crack investigative journalist.
PERSONALLY......
I've always thought the one person who see's through the Lex Luthor's act should be Lois Lane. I obviously want Lex Luthor to be the coporate, LexCorp owning Lex Luthor, but I do want politician Lex Luthor to be there as well as I feel the President Lex Luthor storyline should be adapted over the course of a franchise. Lex should be the hero of Metropolis, right up there with Superman in the eyes of many with the only person who can see him for what he really is being Lois Lane. It would be Lois who convinces Clark/Superman that Lex is a bad, bad person.