lol Now even David Icke is following my lead...

cass said:
I just wish they'd address reforms and actually police their militants.

I actually agree with you on that point. There's not enough accountability put on radical extremist muslims by the normal muslim community. I realize it's difficult to do, since they're "radical extremists" and therefore probably don't care a whole lot about what their moderate peers think but there are things that could still be done to reign them in a bit.

jag
 
Daisy said:
Actually, no one knows where the first and second temples stood. Some believe it's under the Dome of the Rock (which is not a mosque by the way, but rather a shrine - we don't know for certain why it was originally built although it appears to be something of a conquest monument [over the Byzantines and the Sassanians].
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With all due respect, within Islam the Dome of the Rock is considered to be a mosque though atypical in its design. The mosque's builders and artisans came from many different regions and incorporated their individual techniques and styles into the final design.

The mosque was commissioned by the 9th Caliph, Abd al-Malik of the Umayyad Dynasty due to its Islamic historical importance as the place where Muhammad ascended into Paradise and where Umar, the 2nd caliph prayed at the site after the Muslim conquest of Jerusalem in 637.

This rock is equally important in the Judaic tradition, which considers it the symbolic foundation upon which the world was built and the place of the Binding of Isaac.
 
jaguarr said:
I actually agree with you on that point. There's not enough accountability put on radical extremist muslims by the normal muslim community. I realize it's difficult to do, since they're "radical extremists" and therefore probably don't care a whole lot about what their moderate peers think but there are things that could still be done to reign them in a bit.

jag

I think there's a lot to be done. Such as:

1. Leaders of every Muslim country coming out and condemning attacks on their fellow people and countries.
2. Al-Jeezera to stop airing audio/video files from known terrorists.
3. Muslim clerics to have a conference condemning all extremists, and breaking down the extremist schools.
4. A coalition that actively works to bring in the extremists.
 
Another thing that would help the region would be for Israel to be recognized. If that happens, there won't be a constant threat to stability and a Palestinian state can be put into motion.
 
jaguarr said:
I actually agree with you on that point. There's not enough accountability put on radical extremist muslims by the normal muslim community. I realize it's difficult to do, since they're "radical extremists" and therefore probably don't care a whole lot about what their moderate peers think but there are things that could still be done to reign them in a bit.

jag


That accountability and pressure by "normal Muslims" over radical extremist has to take place on a national basis as someone like me, a Muslim-American has no direct influence over Muslims overseas.
 
raybia said:
That accountability and pressure by "normal Muslims" over radical extremist has to take place on a national basis as someone like me, a Muslim-American has no direct influence over Muslims overseas.

It helps if people inspire their leaders to take place on a national basis, not just sit around and shrug their shoulders.
 
raybia said:
That accountability and pressure by "normal Muslims" over radical extremist has to take place on a national basis as someone like me, a Muslim-American has no direct influence over Muslims overseas.

Oh, I agree. You're American so you're as much a part of the problem as anyone else in the extremists eyes. cass actually had some good suggestions:

1. Leaders of every Muslim country coming out and condemning attacks on their fellow people and countries.
2. Al-Jeezera to stop airing audio/video files from known terrorists.
3. Muslim clerics to have a conference condemning all extremists, and breaking down the extremist schools.
4. A coalition that actively works to bring in the extremists.


jag
 
jaguarr said:
Oh, I agree. You're American so you're as much a part of the problem as anyone else in the extremists eyes. cass actually had some good suggestions:

1. Leaders of every Muslim country coming out and condemning attacks on their fellow people and countries.
2. Al-Jeezera to stop airing audio/video files from known terrorists.
3. Muslim clerics to have a conference condemning all extremists, and breaking down the extremist schools.
4. A coalition that actively works to bring in the extremists.


jag

Evil Extremist: "Americans are the enemy! Even our good Muslim brothers and sisters!
Shame on them for moving to America, converting to Islam in America, and for being born into a Muslim family in America! Death to them all (But please send dollars to support our cause before we kill you)" :rolleyes:

:up:
 
Man-Thing said:
In truth, TSOG goes to Ickes website (and probably has the member only feature where you pay) and gets all the latest "news".

No, actually, I just check out the "latest headlines" once or twice a week. I would never pay to become a member or read his newsletter or anything like that. I've never even bought one of his books either, just checked them out at my local library. :o
 
Man-Thing said:
At best, you're an Icke follower, and if his site were to shut down you would be without the latest lizard info.

Wrong, as usual. Without Icke, I'd just rely on other sources, and as I've mentionned many times before, I started studying this stuff ten years ago, and only found out about Icke and his work LAST YEAR, HERE, at the Hype.
 
jaguarr said:
I actually agree with you on that point. There's not enough accountability put on radical extremist muslims by the normal muslim community. I realize it's difficult to do, since they're "radical extremists" and therefore probably don't care a whole lot about what their moderate peers think but there are things that could still be done to reign them in a bit.

jag

Out of curiosity, have "normal" christians done anything about christian fundamentalists? Or "normal" jews done anything about zionists, for that matter?
 
raybia said:
This rock is equally important in the Judaic tradition, which considers it the symbolic foundation upon which the world was built...

So, if it is destroyed, then the symbolic foundation upon which the world was built shall also be destroyed? Interesting.
 
TheSumOfGod said:
Out of curiosity, have "normal" christians done anything about christian fundamentalists? Or "normal" jews done anything about zionists, for that matter?

They've not done nearly enough, no.

jag
 
TSOG needs to make an original thread once in a while :(
 
Axid said:
TSOG needs to make an original thread once in a while :(

Yeah, the Hype and the rest of the world really needs another super-original Tom and Katie thread. :rolleyes:
 
TheSumOfGod said:
Yeah, the Hype and the rest of the world really needs another super-original Tom and Katie thread. :rolleyes:

I can't even remember the last Tom and Katie thread.
 
TheSumOfGod said:
Out of curiosity, have "normal" christians done anything about christian fundamentalists? Or "normal" jews done anything about zionists, for that matter?
Have normal drivers done anything about bad drivers. It really is not their job.
 

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