"Make America Great Again!": The TRUMP Thread!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 22

[Thundercrack85]

I am amazed Hillary turned out. Even more so that no one pelted her with fruit. Not enough Democrats in the crowd I guess.

 

[Thundercrack85]

He/she probably got stiffed like the USA Freedom Kids.

Get the money up front, Marvel!

 

[jmc]

And we can't forget what he said about Europe a couple of days ago; that more countries will do a brexit, that they will help Great Britain, criticizing Angela Merkel, saying that he’d be willing to lift the sanctions imposed on Russia due to the annexition of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula...

This some really serious and frightening stuff.
Not only his he talking about an outside continent, which he should not do; he is basically fuelling discord in Europe.
By saying he will help GB after their exit and that more countries will follow, he is basically encouraging other countries to do the same and to have a fragmented EU.

He even went to the point of saying "I don't care if the EU breaks"

The only country that really has to gain from a fragmented Europe is Russia.


And going back to the US...never had America be so divided since the Civil War.
This says a lot

The only thing that has kept the world from destroying itself after WW2 was global trade. Get ready for bumpy few years, history has shown that when protectionism and nationalism rears its ugly head bad things happen. There are no exceptions.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

This won't be just an average Presidency, it's a full reclamation project. The Obama administration was so intent on "changing America" that it has nearly destroyed it and its reputation.

Racial hatred hasn't been this bad since the 1960's. More than doubled the national debt ($10 trillion when he took office to $21 trillion now). The worst foreign policy in history. ISIS grew BECAUSE of Obama [policies. So many Americans leaving the work force. Crime and taxes all UP. ETC.

President Donald Trump has promised to put America first and restore the power of the people in his first address to the nation as President of the United States.

Trump vowed "to rebuild our country and restore its promise for all of our people."

"We are transferring power from Washington, D.C. and giving it back to you the people," he said.

"What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people."



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[regwec]

And we can't forget what he said about Europe a couple of days ago; that more countries will do a brexit, that they will help Great Britain, criticizing Angela Merkel, saying that he’d be willing to lift the sanctions imposed on Russia due to the annexition of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula...

This some really serious and frightening stuff.
Not only his he talking about an outside continent, which he should not do; he is basically fuelling discord in Europe.
By saying he will help GB after their exit and that more countries will follow, he is basically encouraging other countries to do the same and to have a fragmented EU.

He even went to the point of saying "I don't care if the EU breaks"

The only country that really has to gain from a fragmented Europe is Russia.


And going back to the US...never had America be so divided since the Civil War.
This says a lot

I'm sorry, but...why the **** shouldn't a POTUS say this? Britain has stuck with the US through thick and thin, and has now made a legitimate and democratic choice to leave a stagnant trade block where it was prevented from doing a trade deal with the US. Why should the POTUS help the EU by facilitating its petty revenge against Britain?

And I say the above with the deepest regret that this buffoon is now the leader of the Free World.

 

[samsnee]

I really don't understand the argument our reputation has gone down in the last four years. And even if it has, Trump is the one to bring it back?

 

[Thundercrack85]

I really don't understand the argument our reputation has gone down in the last four years. And even if it has, Trump is the one to bring it back?

I suspect that most people who vote for Trump don't go abroad much. Or watch anything other than Fox News or read anything other than Breitbart.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

The only thing that has kept the world from destroying itself after WW2 was global trade. Get ready for bumpy few years, history has shown that when protectionism and nationalism rears its ugly head bad things happen. There are no exceptions.

The real problem, and this is me being negative, is that the question is not "will there be a WWIII?", but rather "when?"

The way i see it:

> Europe will become fragmented
> Russia will used it to conquer neighbor countries (the main goal all along)
> Those countries will fight back, but will have no power
> The USA is more and more isolationist, and face a new civil war of sort.
> European countries will take sides
> The WWIII starts (it always starts in Europe)


I pray that i'm utterly wrong; i don't want to face a world war, no one wants to face a world war....

 

[Thundercrack85]

I suppose the only upside to the world resembling the world right before WWI is that WWIII might be fought in a similar manner. I.e. no nuclear holocaust.

 

[jmc]

The real problem, and this is me being negative, is that the question is not "will there be a WWIII?", but rather "when?"

The way i see it:

> Europe will become fragmented
> Russia will used it to conquer neighbor countries (the main goal all along)
> Those countries will fight back, but will have no power
> The USA is more and more isolationist, and face a new civil war of sort.
> European countries will take sides
> The WWIII starts (it always starts in Europe)


I pray that i'm utterly wrong; i don't want to face a world war, no one wants to face a world war....

Probably within the next 10 years.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

I'm sorry, but...why the **** shouldn't a POTUS say this? Britain has stuck with the US through thick and thin, and has now made a legitimate and democratic choice to leave a stagnant trade block where it was prevented from doing a trade deal with the US. Why should the POTUS help the EU by facilitating its petty revenge against Britain?

And I say the above with the deepest regret that this buffoon is now the leader of the Free World.

I have nothing against GB, that doesn't even cross my mind; but the moment they want to leave, they are on their own.
It's not about revenge, it's about the fact, if they keep their "european rights" after leaving...why doesn't everyone does the same?

I fear for the Britain people, they don't deserve this, nor did the majority wanted it.
But i believe that it was the goal all along.
Start with Britain, then Trump, next LePen...and so on...

 

[Thundercrack85]

Britain made a dumb mistake. The EU should make an example out of them. You leave the EU because a bunch of dimwits didn't google what leaving the EU means, it's going to cost you.

 

[DeadPresident]

Actually, Catwoman will smash through a wall and grenade him to death.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Nukes prevent countries from invading each other.

No country with nukes has ever been invaded.

So a nuclear holocaust is more likely than another WW2.

Yay?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I am amazed Hillary turned out. Even more so that no one pelted her with fruit. Not enough Democrats in the crowd I guess.

They didn't boo and hiss Obama.
I'm impressed this event didn't have the "Obama go home" signs.

 

[TheCommissioner]

part of the reason Trump wants to cozy up to Russia is so he can wave the US' nukes around with impunity

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Britain made a dumb mistake. The EU should make an example out of them. You leave the EU because a bunch of dimwits didn't google what leaving the EU means, it's going to cost you.

But the EU punishing Britain makes it easy to blame the EU if Brexit doesn't work out.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Nukes prevent countries from invading each other.

No country with nukes has ever been invaded.

So a nuclear holocaust is more likely than another WW2.

Yay?

That's not necessarily true. Imagine for example, if Russia invades Lithuania. Is America going to nuke Russia over Belarus? Probably not. Might Poland and other NATO countries there intervene militarily? Very likely. American units will get drawn in. Is Russia going to start a nuclear war over Lithuania? Probably not. But the fighting will quickly escalate.

A major war without nuclear weapons is definitely a possibility.

 

[regwec]

I have nothing against GB, that doesn't even cross my mind; but the moment they want to leave, they are on their own.
It's not about revenge, it's about the fact, if they keep their "european rights" after leaving...why doesn't everyone does the same?

I fear for the Britain people, they don't deserve this, nor did the majority wanted it.
But i believe that it was the goal all along.
Start with Britain, then Trump, next LePen...and so on...

1) 52% of those who voted voted to leave.
2) We voted to be "on our own" as opposed to outsourcing democracy to Brussels. That does not mean that the wider world has a duty to prop up the sterile and declining EU or to facilitate its characteristic lashing out in the face of descent.

Britain made a dumb mistake. The EU should make an example out of them. You leave the EU because a bunch of dimwits didn't google what leaving the EU means, it's going to cost you.

a thick person's concept of due diligence.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

That's not necessarily true. Imagine for example, if Russia invades Lithuania. Is America going to nuke Russia over Belarus? Probably not. Might Poland and other NATO countries there intervene militarily? Very likely. American units will get drawn in. Is Russia going to start a nuclear war over Lithuania? Probably not. But the fighting will quickly escalate.

A major war without nuclear weapons is definitely a possibility.

Maybe another Vietnam but not a World War.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

1) 52% of those who voted voted to leave.
2) We voted to be "on our own" as opposed to outsourcing democracy to Brussels. That does not mean that the wider world has a duty to prop up the sterile and declining EU or to facilitate its characteristic lashing out in the face of descent.

The EU is crap, it's full of flaws and holes.
But you can't just "run for the hills" and have a "f**k the rest" mentality.
That's nationalism vs globalism.

As for the 52% that voted...sure, it was cities versus rural, basically what happened in the US with Trump.
Rural ALWAYS wins in any country, since they are the majority.
Rural is less educated and informed than people from big cities, not wanting to offend anyone but that's usually the truth.
They are more easily tricked.

Besides, there are rumors that the Russian had they hands on the voting...it's not that weird if we think about it all, everything that is happening and everything that might happen in the future.
French elections are just around the corner.....German one will follow....

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

Maybe another Vietnam but not a World War.

At first, then big European countries will take sides....
Sooner or later, the US will enter and then the rest of the world...

The big question is, what will the middle-east and North Korea do?


Once again, let's pray we are all full of crap and nothing like that happens....or the aliens arrive and give humanity a kick in the butt.

 

[TheCommissioner]

Steve Mnuchins bank foreclosed on a woman because of a $0.27 error

http://theweek.com/speedreads/66483...ce-foreclosed-elderly-woman-over-27cent-error

 

[regwec]

The EU is crap, it's full of flaws and holes.
But you can't just "run for the hills" and have a "f**k the rest" mentality.
That's nationalism vs globalism.

As for the 52% that voted...sure, it was cities versus rural, basically what happened in the US with Trump.
Rural ALWAYS wins in any country, since they are the majority.
Rural is less educated and informed than people from big cities, not wanting to offend anyone but that's usually the truth.
They are more easily tricked.

Besides, there are rumors that the Russian had they hands on the voting...it's not that weird if we think about it all, everything that is happening and everything that might happen in the future.
French elections are just around the corner.....German one will follow....

1) Britain is far more urbanized than practically any other developed nation, so the notion that Brexit was the creation of a lot of country mice is nonsense.

2) Our rural areas are much more closely integrated with towns and cities than in geographically larger and more spacious countries like France or the USA. As a result there are few areas where there is a pronounced cultural division between urbs, suburbs and country.

3) Your notion that there is a moral obligation on any small nation to subordinate itself to the local supranational trade block, no matter how malign or dysfunctional, is deeply disturbing. No doubt the Russians and Chinese would endorse your view.

 

[Thundercrack85]

You know, I am as pro-democracy as the next guy, but there is something to be said for republicanism. The average joe, Joe Bloggs if you will, doesn't understand the complexities of free trade. Which is probably why half the country googled what leaving the EU means, and why they're now *****ing about skyrocketing prices.