Man speaks English, so landlord makes him take a hike

No, you are ******ed for thinking that is a generalization.

"3 black people are dangerous", is that a generalization too?

By definition, I am not generalizing, because I am not associating that trait to a group of people. The fact is, a lot of black people ARE dangerous.

That doesn't make black people dangerous.

And you obviously don't understand the difference, and YOU, my friend, are the ******ed one if you can't comprehend that.

3, isn't a lot. :huh:

What we're you trying to do with such a crappy analogy?

It's a generalization, plain and simple, the quantification of a trait is a generalization. Especially when a lot means just that, a lot. Most, a majority. I mean, it's not even worth debating.

I'm sure Slim would have a problem with you saying that it's a fact that a lot of black people are dangerous.
 
The reason it's not an immigration issue - I don't hate immigrants. I don't want us to close off our borders. I embrace new people and new cultures to come here. It's what makes America a great place. Yes, I do enjoy being exposed to different cultures - I just don't appreciate people who aren't willing to embrace the cultures and customs of the country that they are coming to.

And what exactly are American culture and customs?

This is a very interesting thing you brought up. Exactly what is it? You say you like the melting pot that is America, but at the same time, you want everyone to conform to one ideal. That is outright fascist.:huh:
 
COOL IT!

OK guys... lets all take a deep breath before this gets any further out of hand!
 
To Nell2ThaIzzay, I worked a lot of years in retail and you remind me of the typical "I don't know, sir/ma'am, I just work here" kind of employee you see stereotyped on TV and movies. I live in a Spanish talking island and we DO have insular English speaking communities. People who go "OH, THANK GOD!" literally when I see the expression on their faces and ask them if they speak English did come by the store I worked in often. We're a retail chain so a lot of the higher ups the would fly in from the US only spoke English and I would sometimes translate for one or two of my co-workers when they wanted to make sure they understood everything or had concerns they wanted to share; the rest of the time was a point of pride with most of them to be able to fend for themselves. I had even gotten customers that didn't speak either language and tried to reach an understanding anyway. Why? Because it was my job to keep the customer happy so that they would come and buy again. It was NOT my job to keep only the customers I thought were worthy and drive the others away.

You whine about being called a bigot or racist, I will call you neither. I will agree in your assessment that you ARE prejudiced though. When you start to write about people that don't speak English you immediately start judging them without knowing them. You immediately label them as people that have no value in society, as people that are lazy and not trying and other derogatory denominations. All of this from a group of people that paid you, not stole from you, with a one hundred dollar bill and laughed at your Spanish error. Of course, your sudden and spontaneous insight into the English language allowed you to understand why they were laughing and what they were saying was making fun of you.:whatever:

Instead of going down on the other people, lead by example. If you're such hot $h!+, learn a second language effectively and make yourself more useful. Instead of using and excuse, which is saying that it's catering to others, use it as marketing tool for yourself. Show us how you're striving to be a better part of the US community and be a bridge instead of being a leech employee doing the least he can and complaining about the people that actually make you work a little harder when they come into your store to BUY things with their hard earned MONEY.

You would be incorrect in much of your assesment of me. I am definatley not a stereotypical "I don't know, I just work here" type of employee. I definatley don't -like- working retail, but I take pride in my work, and do the best I can. I am, however, rather opinionated, and yes sometimes I do tend to let my moral beliefs take priority, and if someone comes up to me saying "hablo espanol" I simply say "no". However, if I see someone who is obviously trying to communicate in English, but simply cannot do it because they are uncomfortable with it, or just don't know enough English to say what they want to say, I'll do what I can to help them out because I saw an attempt from them.

I also wouldn't argue with the notion of being "prejudice" It is one of my flaws, and I am well aware of it, in that when someone comes up to me merely saying "hablo espanol", I make my own assumptions about them. I never used to be this way, but right or wrong, my experience the past 3 years dealing with people who couldn't speak English, in an English speaking establishment, and dealing with the many different types of people that I had to deal with who were non-English speakers really jaded me towards the whole situation.
 
Since when is not breaking the U.S. border law grounds for eviction?

Illegal Immigrant haven anyone?
 
So 'Afro-American' was championed by the white man?

pretty much.
I think the only one not specifically coming from le white man was "native american" but I'm not even sure about that.
plus I can't believe this went on. it's really a non-issue.
 
well me and Funbobpants don't.
I mean:

"Since when is not breaking the U.S. border law grounds for eviction?

Illegal Immigrant haven anyone?"

whiskey tango foxtrot!!!
 
http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/...FSthIgodWxNxPw


Definition of Citizenship: Citizenship is the status given to a legal member of the country. It involves rights, duties and privileges.

United States Citizenship: U.S. citizenship is usually acquired by birth when the child is born in the territory of the United States under the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Naturalization: The process by which a citizen of a foreign country becomes a United States citizen. Download the US Citizenship Application Guide for more information.

About the US Citizenship Application Guide: The United States Citizenship Information and Application Guide was developed to help foreign nationals apply for U.S. Citizenship. It contains application instructions, procedures and all the required application forms.

Eligibility Requirements: All naturalization applicants must demonstrate good moral character. Other naturalization requirements may be modified or waived for certain applicants, such as spouses of U.S. Citizens or individuals currently serving in the United States military. Additional requirements include:
  • A period of continuous residence and physical presence in the United States
  • The ability to read, write and speak English
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  • Pass the United States Citizenship Test
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These are the official guidelines for people from other countries wanting citizenship.

Learning to speak English is one of them.
 
Stop padding your post count, Memphis.
 
Citizenship is only but ONE of the ways someone can immigrate to and live in the United States LEGALLY. It is NOT the only way. I'm sorry that is confusing for some of you, but that's life on the bell curve. Some of you are doomed to repeat this grade. Class dismissed.

jag
 
yes, but in pretty much all of them, speaking english is required. que comprende?
 
You can cram all the questions and answers they ask you for the citizenship test. They give you a booklet beforehand if I'm not mistaken. Que comprende? What understands? What are you trying to say in Spanish that you're butchering it?:confused:
 
que pasa?
que coco nono caca.


Seriously, there is a lot more red tape that [legal] immigrants have to go through. Even if they're on a working visa, they still have to know the language or at least have to be fluent in the more common phrases and words.
 
yes, but in pretty much all of them, speaking english is required. que comprende?

Actually, that's not true. Neither a Green Card nor a U.S. Work Visa have a requirement for speaking English in order to obtain one. The application documentation for each of them must be submitted in English or be accompanied by formal translation documentation. The applicant is not required to speak English.

jag
 
Actually, that's not true. Neither a Green Card nor a U.S. Work Visa have a requirement for speaking English in order to obtain one. The application documentation for each of them must be submitted in English or be accompanied by formal translation documentation. The applicant is not required to speak English.

jag

You guys have it better in the US than here in the UK. We let anyone in.
 
You can cram all the questions and answers they ask you for the citizenship test. They give you a booklet beforehand if I'm not mistaken. Que comprende? What understands? What are you trying to say in Spanish that you're butchering it?:confused:

Don't bother. We've explained it a million times that the "Knowing English" requirement only applies to the test.
 
Thanks, I'm beginning to think that it is indeed a monkey who thinks he's super the one who's posting.:o
 
I would like to and also plan to move to the US one day. I have a head start I spek English. :oldrazz:
 

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