Marine instructor charged with 224 counts of abusing recruits

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This is the AP article.:

SAN DIEGO: A U.S. Marines drill instructor has been charged with 225 criminal counts connected to abusing recruits, a Marines spokesman said.

Sgt. Jerrod M. Glass postponed making a plea during a court appearance at San Diego Marine Corps Recruit Depot, where he worked, spokesman Austin Mansfield said Thursday. The charges include 91 counts of assault, 90 of failure to obey lawful orders and 27 of cruelty and maltreatment.

Glass had worked as a drill instructor for less than a year when the alleged mistreatment occurred in January and February. No member of his platoon was seriously injured.

In one incident, Glass allegedly ordered a recruit to jump head-first into a trash can and then pushed him further into the container, according to court documents cited in The San Diego Union-Tribune. He is also accused of striking recruits with a tent pole and a heavy flashlight.

In court Wednesday, Glass did not speak except to answer basic questions from the judge, Lt. Col. Jeffrey Meeks. Defense lawyer Capt. Patrick J. Callahan asked that all counts be read aloud.

Callahan did not immediately respond to a phone message for comment Thursday.

About 17,000 recruits graduate each year from the San Diego depot. It is one of only two depots nationwide; the other is in Parris Island, South Carolina.

Gary Solis, a former Marine Corps prosecutor and judge who teaches law of war at Georgetown University Law Center, estimated about six drill instructors, or DIs, are charged nationwide each year with abusing recruits.

"These kids are helpless before DI's," Solis said. "The DI is God and they have no immediate recourse."

The high number of counts against Glass may reflect that a single act resulted in charges for each member of a platoon, Solis said.

"It's one event that affects an entire platoon," he said. "It doesn't mean he did something wrong 224 times."

Abuse charges against Marines have become less common since six recruits drowned 50 years ago during a training exercise at Parris Island in 1956, Solis said.


From what I've heard so far, I'm kind of torn between outrage against the charges and curiosity as to how bad it actually was.

Stuff like this is expected to happen, and then someone grows feelings and it gets blown out of proportion.

For the most part, I think it's bull****. But it had to be a pretty big deal for his chain of command to be relieved of duty.
 
I like how the smart a$$ defense attorney requested that all charges be read aloud...nothing like pissing off the judge. If he was my attorney they'd have to add another charge of assault and battery after I beat my attorney to death.
 
You know who I don't want to be? The Marine that reported the DI.
 
From what I've heard so far, I'm kind of torn between outrage against the charges and curiosity as to how bad it actually was.

Stuff like this is expected to happen, and then someone grows feelings and it gets blown out of proportion.

For the most part, I think it's bull****. But it had to be a pretty big deal for his chain of command to be relieved of duty.

is there something you would like to tell us, Jack? perhaps about the 'sexual incident' that occurred w/ you and your drill sargeant? 'sokay . . . you can tell us :ninja:
 
Like Jack said, there must have been something pretty over the top going on here for an entire chain of command to be relieved of duty. It'll be interesting to hear what really went down to cause all the hub-bub.

jag
 
This is the AP article.:




From what I've heard so far, I'm kind of torn between outrage against the charges and curiosity as to how bad it actually was.

Stuff like this is expected to happen, and then someone grows feelings and it gets blown out of proportion.

For the most part, I think it's bull****. But it had to be a pretty big deal for his chain of command to be relieved of duty.

I'm no Marine expert or whatever, but I'm pretty sure getting hit with a tentpole, a flashlight, and pushed into a dumpster isn't part of the process. Make him do 1,500 pushups? Ok. Clean the barracks with a toothbrush? Awesome. Assault with a tentpole? No.
 
Like Jack said, there must have been something pretty over the top going on here for an entire chain of command to be relieved of duty. It'll be interesting to hear what really went down to cause all the hub-bub.

jag

Tent pole sodomy.
 
From what I've heard so far, I'm kind of torn between outrage against the charges and curiosity as to how bad it actually was.

Stuff like this is expected to happen, and then someone grows feelings and it gets blown out of proportion.

it's expected that recruits will be struck with a heavy flashlight? :confused:
 
I'm sure there must've been something more than just your average hard-ass drill instructor antics here . . . this guy is less than a year in . . . and apparently very overzealous . . .
 
Yeah, there had to have been some really ****ed up **** for that kind of punishment.
 
I'm sure there must've been something more than just your average hard-ass drill instructor antics here . . . this guy is less than a year in . . . and apparently very overzealous . . .

He's not less than a year in. He's a sergeant.:huh: He's only a year into DI duty. He's been in the Corps for some time.

As for things expected: eveyone tolerates a certain level of abuse. The flashlight thing? The flashlights you use at recruit training are cheap plastic pieces of ****. Boo hoo.

The jumping into a trashcan thing? One of my DIs made our entire platoon(of 83 at the time) attempt to fit into a dumpster because some recruit lost his nametape, and said he might've thrown it away.

That's run of the mill type ****. It's called playing games.

What I'm saying is, I haven't seen anything(yet) that looks very extreme to warrant 224 charges. It was even stated that no recruit suffered any serious injuries. But, as I previously stated, something hasn't been released yet, seeing how his entire chain of command ate it.
 
What pisses me off is that the few things the article did list talked about "striking" with "heavy" flashlights. Just how hard is it to be "striked?" Just how heavy is a "heavy" flashlight compared to a not-so-heavy flashlight? :huh:

Is there proof that this abuse was anywhere as severe as they claimed it was?
 
Probably one or two semi-serious things (i.e. sodomy with a tent pole) with 222 others of "that mean DI called me a *insert insult here* and it hurt my feelings". Now we're gonna have a bunch of potential Marines that get pampered because their DI's are afraid to speak in a harsh tone for fear of silly a$$ complaints being lodged. :cmad:
 
Good God! What has this world come to when Marine DI's can't even randomly sodomize their recruits with tent poles and "heavy" flashlights anymore? :down

jag
 
Good God! What has this world come to when Marine DI's can't even randomly sodomize their recruits with tent poles and "heavy" flashlights anymore? :down

jag

LOL! Yeah, I'm kind of surprised by the responses so far.
 
I'm sure there must've been something more than just your average hard-ass drill instructor antics here . . . this guy is less than a year in . . . and apparently very overzealous . . .
what could have gone wrong?


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The "flashlight" they are undoubtedly referring to is called a "moonbeam" in recruit-speak.

I must've went through at least 8 while I was in boot. They're flimsy, and the only thing that makes the ****ing things heavy is the batteries you put in them.

They're no different from any other flashlight you'd use in the civilan world, other than it looks like this:

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He wasn't using some giant metal cop flashlight, at any rate.:down
 
The "flashlight" they are undoubtedly referring to is called a "moonbeam" in recruit-speak.

I must've went through at least 8 while I was in boot. They're flimsy, and the only thing that makes the ****ing things heavy is the batteries you put in them.

They're no different from any other flashlight you'd use in the civilan world, other than it looks like this:

B201G.jpg


He wasn't using some giant metal cop flashlight, at any rate.:down

Damn. I want one.
 
The "flashlight" they are undoubtedly referring to is called a "moonbeam" in recruit-speak.

I must've went through at least 8 while I was in boot. They're flimsy, and the only thing that makes the ****ing things heavy is the batteries you put in them.

They're no different from any other flashlight you'd use in the civilan world, other than it looks like this:

B201G.jpg


He wasn't using some giant metal cop flashlight, at any rate.:down

You were there?:huh:
 
He's not less than a year in. He's a sergeant.:huh: He's only a year into DI duty. He's been in the Corps for some time.

no shyt . . . that's what I meant :confused: :confused:

As for things expected: eveyone tolerates a certain level of abuse. The flashlight thing? The flashlights you use at recruit training are cheap plastic pieces of ****. Boo hoo.

then what's the point of even hitting someone w/ it? It would pry break . . . I imagine that he pry had a bad-ass police flashlight . . . are they necessarily standard issue plastic across the board?

The jumping into a trashcan thing? One of my DIs made our entire platoon(of 83 at the time) attempt to fit into a dumpster because some recruit lost his nametape, and said he might've thrown it away.

That's run of the mill type ****. It's called playing games.

I've seen Full Metal Jacket :o

What I'm saying is, I haven't seen anything(yet) that looks very extreme to warrant 224 charges. It was even stated that no recruit suffered any serious injuries. But, as I previously stated, something hasn't been released yet, seeing how his entire chain of command ate it.

exactly . . . something must have happened that was more fuacked up than your run-of-the mill drill sargeant antics . . . and you never mentioned the tentpole thing . . . that's gotta hurt a bit more than a plastic flashlight . . . dude I think you're kinda brainwashed . . .
 
no shyt . . . that's what I meant :confused: :confused:



then what's the point of even hitting someone w/ it? It would pry break . . . I imagine that he pry had a bad-ass police flashlight . . . are they necessarily standard issue plastic across the board?



I've seen Full Metal Jacket :o



exactly . . . something must have happened that was more fuacked up than your run-of-the mill drill sargeant antics . . . and you never mentioned the tentpole thing . . . that's gotta hurt a bit more than a plastic flashlight . . . dude I think you're kinda brainwashed . . .

Ah, shut the **** up dude.
 
^why? you don't believe in brainwashing? wake the ** up dude . . .
 

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