Marv Wolfman explains why people hate Marvel.

[iloveclones]

Originally posted by Jugsy
But there's the problem, the comics aren't okay. And the few that are, are either given to the would-be Austen or cancelled!

And to put the cream on the cake, he takes one of the first marvel characters created, a homage to bad-ass heroes everywhere, and turns him into a love struck punk with gills!
Seriously, it's takenn four issues for Namor to go bad ass ONCE!!! and for the plot to finally be revealed. And that is if you keep a free mind, and know Namors past.

Which may be true to all old fans, but the bottom line for me is that for the first time ever, I got my sister-in-law and 11yr old niece reading Marvel comics. The coveted "new" fans of the industry. Rather than spend time complaining about it (I mean, it's cancelled. You won), why not just pass it off to a someone who might enjoy it. Hell, I was buying it, primarily to hand it off to them.

 

[topdog1]

Originally posted by Sundry
...make me wonder if we would still have these problems regardless of the administration's attitudes or not. In the 1990s Marvel's biggest cancer was bad writing. Now it's become the market itself.

We have to get the kids to start reading and away from the video games.

Still.... “Make Mine Marvel!”

 

[CobraCommander]

It's not just video games. Kids are reading. They're just not reading American comics. They're reading Manga. They're reading Harry Potter.

Marvel needs to get the word out. I've been saying it for a few years now, TELEVISION ADVERTISING. It's so simple, why can't they figure this out?

 

[masteryoda]

I doubt Marvel could really afford T.V advertising. Not the kind of advertising that would me needed to make a difference. How much did an add during Seinfeld or Friends cost? A few hundred thousand I'm sure. Plus I think they reach alot more new readers with the interent.

 

[iloveclones]

Here's another thing they need to figure out (and I think they may be): affordable comics. I feel like I have a drug habit with what I spend on a weekly basis. I have no idea how kids could wrangle this kind of money out of their parents on a weekly basis. I saw Marvel is publishing their Marvel Age line in the small "manga" paperback format. I think that's a really good way to go. Another good idea is to make their TPB's really affordable to libraries thru heavy discounts (or donations). This is where I started reading Powers and Authority, 2 examples of titles that I really like and NEVER would have picked up and tried. Here's another idea: at movie premieres, give away CD-ROM's with comics on them. Like with the upcoming FF movie. Give away a CD with the first 10 issues of Ultimate FF and the best, recent 10 issues of MU FF; make the movie adaptation into a 3 or 4 part mini-series and put the first issue on the CD. Include on the CD a database of comic shops and other stores that carry Marvel comics with a link to Mapquest . These are relatively inexpensive things that would draw in new fans.

Sorry if I'm sidetracking the thread...

 

[The Batman]

i dont hate marvel. I do hate the management and the way they act towards the fans or other companies, and their obsessed legion of ignorant zombies...

 

[venom892]

Great read and very good points.

 

[Darthphere]

Originally posted by The Batman
i dont hate marvel. I do hate the management and the way they act towards the fans or other companies, and their obsessed legion of ignorant zombies...

 

[Unthinkable]

hah!

 

[CobraCommander]

Like DC doesn't have the same devoted fans.

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

Awesome read

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

Originally posted by CobraCommander
Like DC doesn't have the same devoted fans.

The DC fans are the bitter ones that get happy anytime one of their books makes it in the top ten. Then they like to rub it in everyone's face, despite the fact that marvel has the other 9 slots

 

[The Batman]

Sales dont equal quality....I'm not trying to play sides, but, you probably say the same thing when a Britney Spears record outsells your favorite Rock band.....

 

[Darthphere]

But Britney Spears is good.

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

Originally posted by The Batman


Sales dont equal quality....I'm not trying to play sides, but, you probably say the same thing when a Britney Spears record outsells your favorite Rock band.....

i dont like rock, so i don't get you comparison

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

Originally posted by darthphere

Hehe

I remember back in the day, SIG and I used to get pics of zombies and add stuff like "marvel rules" on to them.


that's where that Fib You pic came from

 

[CobraCommander]

I'm just saying, because I'm not a biased reader. But I feel that fans on both sides are equally devoted and rabid.

Yet Marvel gets stuck with the "zombie" label.

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

because 'DC zombie' doesnt role off your tongue like 'marvel zombie' does.

 

[Kunstpark_Ost]

Originally posted by the defenders
I'm amazized i actually read it
He's right in so many ways

Awesome Morrissey avatar!! I'M JEALOUS!

 

[Lackey]

Originally posted by CobraCommander
I'm just saying, because I'm not a biased reader. But I feel that fans on both sides are equally devoted and rabid.

Yet Marvel gets stuck with the "zombie" label.

well, as evident by the sales figures, most rabid DC fans read Marvel too

 

[CobraCommander]

Eh... I'll just go with Bat-Sheep or something that rolls off the tongue easier.

 

[Jugsy]

Originally posted by iloveclones
Which may be true to all old fans, but the bottom line for me is that for the first time ever, I got my sister-in-law and 11yr old niece reading Marvel comics. The coveted "new" fans of the industry. Rather than spend time complaining about it (I mean, it's cancelled. You won), why not just pass it off to a someone who might enjoy it. Hell, I was buying it, primarily to hand it off to them.

yeah, sorry about that, it was hyped up anger, with no place to vent it other than at marvel.

Originally posted by CobraCommander
Eh... I'll just go with Bat-Sheep or something that rolls off the tongue easier.

Boy-scout feels right

 

[Gambit8370]

Originally posted by the defenders
Never forget X-STATIC

Is it me, or is Doop














GOD

It's definately just you.

 

[iloveclones]

Originally posted by Jugsy
yeah, sorry about that, it was hyped up anger, with no place to vent it other than at marvel.

Seriously, rather than venting, pass it off to a girlfriend or little sister or something. I guarantee that they'll have a better response (and you might just turn them into a ....dare I say it.... MARVEL ZOMBIE!!!!

 

[Darthphere]

Originally posted by iloveclones
Seriously, rather than venting, pass it off to a girlfriend or little sister or something. I guarantee that they'll have a better response (and you might just turn them into a ....dare I say it.... MARVEL ZOMBIE!!!!