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All New X-Men seems like a waste of time. They're not even "all-new". They're not a bunch of new characters, they're just the time displaced original 5.
Marvel doesn't think we know that, lol. Plus once they finally go back to their time(we all know they will), shouldn't they be able to change all the bad stuff that happened? Oh, what's that Marvel, I shouldn't be asking those types of questions, oh, okay then, move along lol.

I just don't know about the new X book. I won't be getting it or the other Legacy one.
 
All New X-Men seems like a waste of time. They're not even "all-new". They're not a bunch of new characters, they're just the time displaced original 5.

I am a tad skeptical. The original 5 being time displaced has the potential for major time paradox. Someone get doc brown down here now. :cmad:
 
I'm sure the plan is for marvel to use the 5 to tell original 5 stories and then when they're tired of them, send them back to whatever parallel non-616 universe they came from.
 
But Immonen is so good. I wish they'd use him for a better book.
 
I think Immonen would have been a good choice for the new Iron Man book. Also if they relaunch a new Guardians of the Galaxy book I think he'd have been great on something like that.
 
These new covers are pretty cool looking. I quite dig the X-Men and Iron Man covers.
 
I am a tad skeptical. The original 5 being time displaced has the potential for major time paradox. Someone get doc brown down here now. :cmad:

It worried me too. Bendis has no concept of continuity to begin with, this is like playing with fire. Y'know that "Does Marvel need a Crisis" debate that pops up every so often? Yeah....well......

I can see how it goes sour already. We already know that Wolverine is questionable in the pedophile department, what's he gonna do when he catches a whiff of teenage Jean Grey's sweet virgin ass? :o
 
Yeah I really cannot understand how having the O5 around is tenable.
Them being from an alternate Universe is the only possible explanation.
And there is just no way they can manage to have Jean around Cyclops and Logan and not expect a weird pedo-love-triangle
 
Bendis has said that he is well aware of the time paradox issues and that they'll be addressed. No reason to jump off a cliff yet, the first issue hasn't even come out! I'll judge it then, but I'm excited for it now.

And there is no way there is going to be a pedo love triangle. Unless Marvel actually wants to ruin one of their cash cows. I'm actually happy that for once Jean won't have to be involved in choosing Cyclops or Wolverine.
 
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I don't really care for Bendis's work outside of Ultimate Spider-Man, and now Hickman is writing Avengers, now if his work is as epic as his The Ultimates work was then we're in for a great run
 
Marvel doesn't think we know that, lol. Plus once they finally go back to their time(we all know they will), shouldn't they be able to change all the bad stuff that happened? Oh, what's that Marvel, I shouldn't be asking those types of questions, oh, okay then, move along lol.

I just don't know about the new X book. I won't be getting it or the other Legacy one.

Well, actually all they'd do is create an alternate timeline. :o
 
I'd probably have more interest in this book if it was the actual original 5 getting together again instead of these time hopping yahoos. There's a ton of potential with using the O5 in their current state.

There's tension and friction between Scott and Hank, Scott and Bobby, Warren is not the same man they once new, Jean (provided she came back from the dead) and Scott would be in a weird place, Bobby used to be the immature guy in the group could end up being the adult while everybody else is at odds, the possibilities are endless. They would have to put differences aside for the good of the mutant race.

Back when the first volume of X-Factor was launched, they were in a similar place......Jean had just came back from the dead, Scott was married and didn't know how to deal with it, Warren was in love with Jean.....using the current characters would be like a throwback to that era for the new age all the while not causing potential time paradox issues.
 
Marvel had a press conference with Comicbookresources today about DeConnick taking over Avegners Assemble:http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40426

With Marvel Comics incoming Marvel NOW! relaunch of major titles – including a new start for the "Avengers" franchise under Jonathan Hickman – fans have been asking for weeks whether the Avengers Assemble ongoing meant to tie to the blockbuster film would continue past its initial arc from Brian Michael Bendis and Mark Bagley. Today, the publisher made it official that writer Kelly Sue DeConnick and artist Stefano Caselli will guide the book from issue #9 on in their latest Next Big Thing conference call.

Director of Communications Arune Singh led the call alongside DeConnick, Caselli [who unfortunately lost the call moments in] and Editors Lauren Sankovitch and Tom Brevoort.

Sankovitch said that the move was the next logical step for DeConnick after well-receieved run on "Osborn" and launch for "Captain Marvel." She added that the writer's involvement would be good "to get some lady power in the Avengers lineup." Brevoort said that the lineup will focus on classic members of the Avengers team with three-to-four issue arcs with a tight focus on quick adventure stories. "Basically, it's all about making a big impact in a short amount of time."

DeConnick revealed the lineup as Hulk, Thor, Iron Man, Spider-Woman, Captain America and Captain Marvel. Of the last she said, "I had the option to pick...and if I'm deciding, I had a slot for this character as well." She said of the tone of the book, most of it came from her viewing of the "Avengers" film and what it did to her as an audience member. "I managed to keep it together until that point where Iron Man came onto screen while AC/DC was playing...that's the moment I'm going for – that rock anthem, bouncing up and down in your seat moment."

"I'm interested in them as celebrities," the writer added, saying that looking at the characters in a public life while engaging with 21st Century media and how they view their role in moving towards the future.

When questions opened to the press, DeConnick was asked whether she would use any of her villain cast members from "Osborn" into the series. She said she had one in mind, but it was still pending Marvel's approval.
DeConnick also said that the lineup would change arc-to-arc and that Black Widow would return to the book after the first arc, but for now it was Spider-Woman's time. "I really like Jessica Drew and how broken she is," the writer explained.

As for how the team will follow Bendis and Bagley, DeConnick joked that she wouldn't want to stack her writing against Bendis, but she could probably beat him up in real life. "We have a similar love of a kind of bantery dialogue. I have been a fan of Brian's for many, many years...since long before I knew him. He has been a direct influence on my work, but I am writing my 'Avengers' book."

The writer also noted that the challenge of a team book with such an iconic ensemble cast was more of a strength for her as she loves a novelistic approach to comic writing that allows for multiple points of view throughout a story. Without having to focus on one character all the time, like she does in "Captain Marvel," DeConnick can explore more story possibilities.

Asked about the inclusion of non-movie characters like Spider-Woman and Captain Marvel and whether non-traditional comics readers would be able to get into them, Brevoort argued that despite complicated in universe back stories, those characters had simple, recognizable hooks that anyone could understand and related to in a matter of moments. He left the possibility that other even more obscure Avengers could appear at some point who would be understood in context that they're standing next to Cap, Iron Man and Thor. He went on to say that with Hickman's upcoming "Avengers" run, with an 18-member team having been built any cast member can step in for a specific story if needed.

DeConnick admitted that as of yet, she doesn't have an overall personal mission statement for the team and how they act in the world so much as she has been building relationships for the cast amongst themselves. She cited loving to work on the differences between competing super geniuses Tony Stark and Bruce Banner. Brevoort chimed in saying that the theme permeating the core Avengers books and how it relates to "Assemble," this series would be "The Aaron Sorkin book" where the cast is always bouncing off each other in order to get the world saved. DeConnick joked that there would be lots of "Walking and fighting" as opposed to "Walking and talking."

The question of which villains would appear was delicately sidestepped as DeConnick didn't want to spoil the secret of the first arc, but she did promise cameos by Spider-Man, Wolverine and Scarlet Witch.

Brevoort said that the "Avengers Assemble" title's initial mission statement of being divorced of continuity in the mainstream Marvel U would be a little looser moving forward. In general, the book will be self-contained so that movie fans can pick up stories, but if, say, Captain Marvel's ongoing had a major event that impacts Carol Danvers life, those effects can be felt in "Assemble."

"The voices in my head are the movie voices for Thor, Iron Man, Hulk and [Captain America]," DeConnick said of her conception of the cast, nothing that her Spider-Woman would fall well in line with Bendis' take on the character. "That is the level of humor, the level of charisma that I'm hearing in my head."

The first story arc will feature a kind of "Amazing Race" set up where the Avengers have to split into smaller sub teams and cross the globe in competition with each other. DeConnick said that Spider-Woman and Hulk would compete against Thor and Iron Man over the arc.

The writer joked when asked about being the first woman to write an ongoing "Avengers" book that "I'm just looking for ways to put more pressure on me" and that she was also the first DeConnick to write the franchise. On more serious terms, she noted that she always watches to see what trends are for women in the industry and ways to make them not feel peculiar in their love of this kind of material. "This is a thing that is near and dear to my heart. I've always had an interest. I read superhero comics growing up, and I think the hero ideal is as important to my daughter as it is to my son. I don't want her to have this idea that if this is interesting to her that it's somehow peculiar...those things are very interesting to me, but I don't want to represent all women in comics...particularly because I blow things some times," she laughed saying sometimes it's good for your reach to exceed your grasp with hopes that if it does, people won't say, "There. Women can't write comics." Brevoort added that the distinction was a nice factoid, but DeConnick's gender didn't factor into her hiring. Her talent did. He also nodded his hat to Ann Nocenti for writing "Avengers" stories in the past.
Brevoort wrapped the call noting that the book would not necessarily keep the cosmic milieu of the first arc for its entire run and would instead go wherever they wanted it to – maybe to space, maybe across earth and maybe anywhere else in the Marvel U.

The bolded parts I thought were interesting. So she's using the movie versions to base their characterizations on, and it's really not in continuity I guess. Interesting. Anyone still planning to pick this book up?
 
I'd probably have more interest in this book if it was the actual original 5 getting together again instead of these time hopping yahoos. There's a ton of potential with using the O5 in their current state.

There's tension and friction between Scott and Hank, Scott and Bobby, Warren is not the same man they once new, Jean (provided she came back from the dead) and Scott would be in a weird place, Bobby used to be the immature guy in the group could end up being the adult while everybody else is at odds, the possibilities are endless. They would have to put differences aside for the good of the mutant race.

Back when the first volume of X-Factor was launched, they were in a similar place......Jean had just came back from the dead, Scott was married and didn't know how to deal with it, Warren was in love with Jean.....using the current characters would be like a throwback to that era for the new age all the while not causing potential time paradox issues.

I would read the hell out of this book.
 
Some nice covers forr thor, and ironman second issues, and nice cover for thee new xmen book.
 
Well, actually all they'd do is create an alternate timeline. :o

'cause that's what the X-men need right now is another alternate timeline:whatever:

(not directed at you)
 
This may be a bit shallow of me, but does it also not exactly make sense to bring back an X-Men team that, well, no one really cared about when they were around the first time?

Obviously the interest in X-Men has grown, and obviously the characters have grown as well, but to harken back to that time...well, it's like going back to Star Trek: The Motion Picture when everyone wants to see Wraith of Kahn.
 
This may be a bit shallow of me, but does it also not exactly make sense to bring back an X-Men team that, well, no one really cared about when they were around the first time?

Obviously the interest in X-Men has grown, and obviously the characters have grown as well, but to harken back to that time...well, it's like going back to Star Trek: The Motion Picture when everyone wants to see Wraith of Kahn.

While I like the original team, the original X-Men was failing sales wise and was cancelled right? It seems X-Men reached massive popularity with Chris Claremont's run in the 70s.
 
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Essentially. They were still releasing it, but it was just reprints of old issues.
 
The bolded parts I thought were interesting. So she's using the movie versions to base their characterizations on, and it's really not in continuity I guess. Interesting. Anyone still planning to pick this book up?

Self-contained =/= not in continuity.

The part about stuff happening in Carol's own book that could affect her in this one pretty much cements it as in continuity.
 
Self-contained =/= not in continuity.

The part about stuff happening in Carol's own book that could affect her in this one pretty much cements it as in continuity.
I didn't state that as fact. I said "I guess", and forgot the ? mark. Either way, that was my opinion, not fact.
 
They should just put Avengers Assemble on it's own imprint to separate it from the rest of the in continuity NOW stuff.
 
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