Marvel Studios should get into live-action television...

[The Major]

But I originally said shows involving costumes hadn't been good.

Because the people who made them were not skilled enough, most likely under budget and creatives in Hollywood hadn't been able to make use the tv medium to its utmost potential back then. Genre shows who can't do this have no excuses for that anymore.

Meaning, I enjoyed "Blade", the Whedon vampire hunter shows, & even "Smallville". "Birds Of Prey", by comparison-horrendous. "Nightman"? Nightmare.

The difference between Blade, Angel/Buffy and even Smallville (special effects alone make it worth mentioning [imagine WB using them on a Flash tv show!]) and Birds of Prey & Nightman is that the latter didn't have the right budget and the people hired weren't very good at what they were doing.

It's like with films, if a show doesn't have good enough funding and sub-par people who make it they will be crap.

 

[I'm Venom]

I want a Venom series, but a movie would own.

 

[Raiden]

Said it before and will say it again. Daredevil would work better on television than in film.

I agree with that. Although the movie was a disappointment, it did introduce the general public who DD is, and if they ever make it into a TV show people will know. Personally, I always wonder why Marvel doesn't invest as much into TV shows like WB/DC; I think there are some characters that will work on the small screens, maybe better than on the big screen. WB/DC seems to keep churning out materials for live-action TV series and cartoon series, which Marvel lacks.

 

[The Major]

Raiden:

Capital.

Marvel's rich, but they're nothing to WB in that department.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Heroes for Hire on BET.


Power Man and Iron Fist in a period TV series.

One bad ass 70's strong man and the baddest kung-fu master since Bruce Lee. Put in just a tad bit of off color humor.


This show sells itself.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Cloak & Dagger.
Silver Sable
Dr. Strange
Black Widow
Deathlok

 

[3dman27]

Heroes for Hire on BET.


Power Man and Iron Fist in a period TV series.

One bad ass 70's strong man and the baddest kung-fu master since Bruce Lee. Put in just a tad bit of off color humor.


This show sells itself.

hmmm maybe

 

[CorpusBlack]

Heroes for Hire on BET.


Power Man and Iron Fist in a period TV series.

One bad ass 70's strong man and the baddest kung-fu master since Bruce Lee. Put in just a tad bit of off color humor.


This show sells itself.

I'd watch it.

I'd like to see a show for the Hellfire Club. Revolving around Shaw and Frost especially.

 

[CorpusBlack]

Cloak & Dagger.
Silver Sable
Dr. Strange
Black Widow
Deathlok

C&D and Dr. Strange would be sweet.

 

[The Major]

I'd like to see a show for the Hellfire Club. Revolving around Shaw and Frost especially.

Would that be possible since Fox owns the X-men movie rights?

 

[CorpusBlack]

Would that be possible since Fox owns the X-men movie rights?

Fox owns several TV networks as well.

 

[The Major]

Fox owns several TV networks as well.

How's Marvel's relationship with Fox? Would they let villains from the X-men show up on a tv show connected directly with Marvel?

 

[Chris Wallace]

Because the people who made them were not skilled enough, most likely under budget and creatives in Hollywood hadn't been able to make use the tv medium to its utmost potential back then. Genre shows who can't do this have no excuses for that anymore.



The difference between Blade, Angel/Buffy and even Smallville (special effects alone make it worth mentioning [imagine WB using them on a Flash tv show!]) and Birds of Prey & Nightman is that the latter didn't have the right budget and the people hired weren't very good at what they were doing.

It's like with films, if a show doesn't have good enough funding and sub-par people who make it they will be crap.

QUite true.
Also, a lot of them (SPIDER-MAN) were never taken seriously by the TV studio, so we got crap.

 

[Franklin Richards]

 

[Tempest19]

QUite true.
Also, a lot of them (SPIDER-MAN) were never taken seriously by the TV studio, so we got crap.

In the right hands they can be. I'm the right hands. The key is focus on character over costume. If the character needs a costume, they'll have one, if they don't- they won't. Spider-Man obviously needs the costume. But, if you can get even half as decent a costume as a film that's workable.

You want leather type costumes and costumes you can easily put together in the home (if that makes sense) rather than spandex. A fatal flaw.

These characters must not be seen as two-dimensional. That's another flaw from the old days. They have essential character traits and are very strong and three-dimensional.

Peter Parker makes a promise to Uncle Ben when he's fifteen years old. A very difficult promise to keep because of the complications and challenges he was not prepared to handle. Thus, the series HAS to be more of a journey towards becoming the man behind the mask and learning responsibility. Responsibility is a journey. Rather than being a hero straight from out set. That's why the age he makes the promise is very interesting to me as a story teller, there's a gold mind there that no live action has ever dig into before. The high school years.

I have an epic story that I'd be willing to die to tell. That's how much I want this property and I'm currently and gradually trying to build up to it.

 

[The Major]

Tempest:

That sounds really interesting.

Since Smallville worked I guess we do have th technology for a live action Spider-man tv show. I'd love to see this in action.

There are several franchises which could fit seamlessly with live action tv shows, too.

They could make a SHIELD series where the protogonists are new characters which are agents of the organisation. They could have adventures fighting and encountering Marvel heroes and villains.

The technology already exists to make a good helicarrier on a tv show. Doctor Who did this with The Valiant in season 3 and 4.

Black Widow could operate in a similar vein. Think Alias but with Hydra & SHIELD instead of the CIA and SD-6. With cameos from DD, Elektra, Moon Knight, Iron Fist, Shang Chi etc.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Throw A.I.M. in there. Maybe Skrulls in the last season.

Cameo from Cap would be nice too.

 

[The Major]

Franklin:

The more the merrier.

Skrulls should be a piece of cake to do for a tv show.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Marvel locations would be a must. Missions to Wakanda, Latveria, Attilan, and Asgard.

 

[The Major]

Franklin:

Exactly.

 

[CorpusBlack]

How's Marvel's relationship with Fox? Would they let villains from the X-men show up on a tv show connected directly with Marvel?

I don't know. I'm not a representative of either company.

 

[kedrell]

Well a year or so ago I posted that TV is where I expect Marvel & DC live action heroes to eventually end up since, like the comics, TV is better suited to the serialized nature of superheroes than films are. But it'll take 10-20 years really for this to happen since we're waiting for technology to be affordable enough that these heroes can be done justice on the small screen.

Right now it just takes too long and costs too much to do the effects on TV. Keep in mind that I'm talking doing something like a Hulk TV show on a weekly basis and having movie quality effects with a photo-realistic CGI Hulk. Other heroes(like DD) wouldn't really need that level of effects and probably could work right now. But I digress.

Ultimately what I'd like to see is a entire cable channel(maybe co-owned by Marvel & DC) that's dedicated to comic book adaptions. Call it the Comics Channel or whatever. Wouldn't need to be solely superheroes either. They could put other comics adaptions in there as well and also have cartoon and live action series during prime time and fill them out with already made films like X2, Iron Man, Spider-Man, etc. But my main point is that TV fits comics best(because of the serial thing), we're just waiting for TV effects to be economically as feasable and quality as theatrical releases. As I said, probably 10-20 years until that happens.

 

[The Major]

kendrell:

I'd say we've got the technology already. Smallville proves it. Tv shows like Stargate, Battlestar Galactica and Babylon 5 have shown space operas can even be done well, they just need the proper people to execute it. All it requires is the necessary budget and the effort from companies to make them.

They won't be exactly the same as the comics but it can get close enough not for it to matter.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

What if Marvel has a TV station where they play all their old cartoons (from the 1966's Marvel Super Heroes to the 00's Wolvie and the X-Men http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_television_series_based_on_Marvel_Comics), every Sunday night they play a movie (from the 44 Cap movie to the new ones today: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_Marvel_Comics) and they could play their old live action series and every week night at 8 they could have another one.

Half a year:
Monday - Captain America
Tuesday - Hulk
Wednesday - Spider-Man
Thursday - Daredevil
Friday - Thor

Second half of year:
Monday - Fantastic Four
Tuesday - Iron Man
Wednesday - X-Men
Thursday - Punisher
Friday - S.H.I.E.L.D.

Then after a few years they could merge SHIELD, Iron Man, Cap, Hulk and Thor into one Avengers Series and replace the four gaps with:

Blade
Dr. Strange
Black Panther
Deathpool

 

[kedrell]

I know we already have the technology, otherwise the current theatrical releases couldn't be made. However it would cost too much for TV at this point and also they wouldn't be able to deliver on a regular basis(weekly TV show) since it still takes a long time to do all the CGI animation. It takes 2 years to make a movie and that has a lot less run time than a season of a TV show.