Mass Violence in America: the All Inclusive Thread

[Teelie]

And at the rate things are going it's going to be at least another decade or two of this.

 

[Marvolo]

I always wonder what kind of logic these kids are operating on. I want someone to ask this kid how he thought this would go. Did he think he could just escape and survive on the run at 15 years old? Or was he foolish enough to think prison was an acceptable price for killing his "enemies"? Does he realize that any struggles he faced in high school will pale in comparison to what he will suffer in prison?

 

[squeekness]

I always wonder what kind of logic these kids are operating on. I want someone to ask this kid how he thought this would go. Did he think he could just escape and survive on the run at 15 years old? Or was he foolish enough to think prison was an acceptable price for killing his "enemies"? Does he realize that any struggles he faced in high school will pale in comparison to what he will suffer in prison?

I often wonder if the thought process even goes beyond the actual shooting to the real consequences. They focus on the rush of the Kill or the act of revenge that all else gets lost. Maybe he expected to be killed by the cops when he was fantasizing about, only to hit by the reality of it when it was all over. Who knows?

 

[Lily Adler]

The person who called Oxford High School students 'bro' while trying to enter a classroom was likely an officer trying to put them at ease, sheriff says

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

The NY Post doing what it do... Framing.

Some context of his home life:

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-gun-rights-school-shooter-mother-trump-20211202-5viflzqdcveu7ck2fdacujqlnu-story.html

Picture of him today.

 

[Sithborg]

Suspect's parents in Michigan school shooting charged with involuntary manslaughter

Parents are getting charged with involuntary manslaughter. I knew about the meeting before the shooting.

That text from the mom, saying "don't do it" is pretty damning.

 

[squeekness]

Suspect's parents in Michigan school shooting charged with involuntary manslaughter

Parents are getting charged with involuntary manslaughter. I knew about the meeting before the shooting.

That text from the mom, saying "don't do it" is pretty damning.

Just watched the press conference on CNN. Those parents are going to have a hard time beating those charges as it sounds like they are well deserved.

 

[Lily Adler]

Parkland Student Arrested in School Shooting Threat, Mother Says It Was a Joke

 

[Sithborg]

Just watched the press conference on CNN. Those parents are going to have a hard time beating those charges as it sounds like they are well deserved.

I'm generally not a fan of charging the parents over their kids actions, but holy ****. Just the little bit they have revealed is just beyond gross negligence.

 

[InCali]

Parkland Student Arrested in School Shooting Threat, Mother Says It Was a Joke

Oh....hahaha.....

 

[squeekness]

I'm generally not a fan of charging the parents over their kids actions, but holy ****. Just the little bit they have revealed is just beyond gross negligence.

Yeah, I agree. They are going to need a really good lawyer. And that might not even help.

 

[Dr.]

Dude's parents have flown the coop.

Facing Charges, Parents of Michigan Shooting Suspect Are Now Fugitives - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

 

[Sithborg]

Dude's parents have flown the coop.

Facing Charges, Parents of Michigan Shooting Suspect Are Now Fugitives - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

I mean, holy ****. There has to be some more coming.

What trash human beings.

 

[squeekness]

Crazy, huh? Geez....

 

[Sithborg]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the "Please don't do it" text. And just all of what that implies.

 

[squeekness]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the "Please don't do it" text. And just all of what that implies.

It was already too late, that's the thing. By the time parents get an active shooter alert someone's probably already dead.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Before anyone starts... Yeah, I know the above is not a quote from a game orginally and yadda, yadda, "Boomers don't know gaming" or what have you...

I know there's a reflexive "Oh no, don't blame this on video games" take but I do have to ask this again...

Gamers, regardless of politics will go to the barricades to defend games and gaming whenever a situation like this comes up. This activitiy has no affect or at least no deep affect on those participating so goes the defense. Left and Right come together to borderline laugh at what they see as clueless and reactionary outsiders passing judgment.

The rest of the time though the gamers themselves are at war over all the same things in mass entertainment and culture. Games and gaming culture have ZERO affect on those that play them... Except of course when there's a debate about diversity or messaging that goes against whatever one's own political druthers are. To be clear, I am all for more diversity and for rethinking things like say the game mechanics of say a Vice City where killing sex workers is STILL a thing. But the question is why is it that we can get up in arms about say diversity in game characters, depictions of sex workers as disposable people useful as corpses or female representation in general... But claim that gaming has zero affect on its audience?

Maybe the conservative reactions to things like continuing to have wider representation and the calling out of misogyny in gaming culture the immature knee jerk reactionary side of the audience in full flower, sure, but the idea that gaming has NO affect despite all the various issues that get those on the Left up in arms about games is willfully naive?

I don't have to agree to either a politically correct for either side's take on what are the issues at play with gaming to come to the conclusion that cultural products can, will and do have cultural and individual impacts. Nor does raising this fact turn one into a defacto agent of censorship nor does it mean that I want to ban games or something hyperbolic like that.

But let's stop having the wrong arguments based on, frankly, hypocritical positions.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

God this will end even worse than we thought, isn't it?

 

[Sithborg]

God this will end even worse than we thought, isn't it?

They have been caught. So, they get to enjoy jail through their trial.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

They have been caught. So, they get to enjoy jail through their trial.

I was thinking this was gonna go suicide by cop for second.

 

[Lily Adler]

 

[Lily Adler]