Fantasy Masters of the Universe - Part 3

The Thanos analogy makes no sense. I don't even think you can afford to wait until the first sequel. He-Man needs Skeletor to sell this movie. Then, you can scale his role back a bit and use him in a similar fashion to Loki or Barbossa

Bingo.
 
Interesting to note than in the original conception of He-Man, Beast-Man was supposed to be the main villain. Skeletor was still there, but I'm guessing he was like a secondary villain, like maybe the Dr. Sivana to Beast-Man's Black Adam.

But yeah, saving Skeletor for a sequel is a dumb idea. Hordak, King Hiss, or even an original character, can be the franchise's uber-villain.
 
Also, just to add fuel to the fire. Sony's license for He-Man expires in 2019. So that's why they are trying to get this made now after twiddling their thumbs for years on it.

I've seen very little come out of this project recently to give me confidence that Sony will nail it.
So who gets the rights once Sony's license expires?
 
So who gets the rights once Sony's license expires?
They would revert back to Mattel, who owns the MOTU property. Before Sony, the film rights spent several years at Warner Bros.
 
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The Thanos analogy makes no sense. I don't even think you can afford to wait until the first sequel. He-Man needs Skeletor to sell this movie. Then, you can scale his role back a bit and use him in a similar fashion to Loki or Barbossa

If that rumor is true, I'm almost at the point of saying this movie is doomed. God help Masters of the Universe right now.
 
Quit trying to draw **** out to make a franchise. Just take your cues from the cartoons. Skeletor first. Second movie focuses on Snake Men and Skeletor as a secondary villain and possible ally who backstabs, third movie focuses on meeting She-Ra and Hordak. Skeletor becomes his lackey, everyone on Eternia and the other planet, (Evil-Lyn's dad The Faceless One, Zodak who watches from afar) teams up to take down the Horde. The end.
 
Quit trying to draw **** out to make a franchise. Just take your cues from the cartoons. Skeletor first. Second movie focuses on Snake Men and Skeletor as a secondary villain and possible ally who backstabs, third movie focuses on meeting She-Ra and Hordak. Skeletor becomes his lackey, everyone on Eternia and the other planet, (Evil-Lyn's dad The Faceless One, Zodak who watches from afar) teams up to take down the Horde. The end.

:up: Totally agreed! Although I might change the order a bit. Make Hordak the villain of the second movie, while simultaneously introducing She-Ra as a new hero. Then introduce the Snake Men and King Hiss in the third movie as a threat so great that heroes and villains have to team up just to have a chance of surviving, let alone winning. Then possibly in the fourth movie we learn that Skeletor, Hordak, and King Hiss are all lackeys of Horde Prime, and that HE is the one behind all of the evil doings on Eternia.
 
Everything they try to do in Hollywood it first needs to be "a universe" and then it goes to make a good film first. That's why many adaptations and properties are failing, or dont get anywhere from ground up or stay in development hell. They try to make six movies out of King Arthur legend, they try make Thanos out Skeletor, they try make young Nathan Drake so they can milk Uncharted franchise, they try to make Spidey universe without Spider-Man, they try to do stupid things.

Instead finding one good idea, one good plot, one good movie and put a effort into that ONE movie to work.
 
I think if He-Man is ever filmed, it should be a sword & sorcery film with the tone of Arnold's original Conan. Nothing has come close since then but there were a few honarable mentions. Maybe He-man should go the bad a** route in tone and even more so in image for a gritty interpretation.


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I think if He-Man is ever filmed, it should be a sword & sorcery film with the tone of Arnold's original Conan. Nothing has come close since then but there were a few honarable mentions. Maybe He-man should go the bad a** route in tone and even more so in image for a gritty interpretation.

Hmm? I don't know. The first Conan is a classic, no doubt, but as far as the fantasy elements, it was a little bit limited, and the tone is just too brusque for He-Man. Rather, I think, it should be more the tone of the original Clash of The Titans, John Carter, GOTG films, and the first Star Wars Trilogy.
 
More like Thor. Or least Thor 3, since the first two didn't fully go all the way with the concept.
 
Flash Gordon of this generation.
 
And I'd say you'll need a new comer to pull this off. Hemsworth is not going to be He-Man..maybe Armie Hammer but he's a liability.

Sorta like with Shazam, you'll need a dramatic shift from Prince Adam to He-Man.

Dude, bring in the Rock (with his Hercules wig). It helps he's mixed and ambiguous which worked for his Hercules.
 
The Rock's Hercules is not something this movie should want to draw comparisons with. That movie was a dud.
 
Or least Thor 3, since the first two didn't fully go all the way with the concept.

Absolutely.

Flash Gordon of this generation.

There are alot of things from that film to draw inspiration from. Max Von Sydow's Ming and the cast of other classically-trained actors, the colorful sky, and the imaginative costumes and sets are all key factors to FG's appeal. There's also the camp, but that one might be best left alone. Speaking of Thor:Ragnarok, I see some Flash Gordon- vibe to it.
 
The Rock's Hercules is not something this movie should want to draw comparisons with. That movie was a dud.

Yeah. I couldn't even get through half an hour of that crap. And the Rock's armor was too small on him, lol.
 
I'm torn if I'd rather a comedy or an serious take.
 
It should have some humor. All the best adventure/super-hero movies do.
 
I'm torn if I'd rather a comedy or an serious take.
I hear this question all the time, and I think it's the wrong one to ask. It can be silly at times without slipping into outright farce. The action can carry believable stakes without becoming bleak, dour, or depressing. Big-time blockbusters do it all the time.

That being said, this one can be a tough nut to crack in that respect, given that the most well-known and accessible version of MOTU (the 80s cartoon) is also the most sanitized, low-stakes, and kid-friendly. They could make a film that's way more metal without breaking a sweat of course, but it puts the filmmakers in a rather awkward position of trying to please a core fanbase that's saying "I loved the cartoon when I was a kid, make sure the film is nothing like that."

There's certainly a question of degrees of silliness/darkness to discuss and contrast with other films. I think if the writers, director(s), and actors can make these action figures come off as believable functioning humans, most of the rest will fall into place much more easily.
 
It should have some humor. All the best adventure/super-hero movies do.

Well, there's humor and humor. You can have TDK/BvS type of humor, i.e. "what an irony/haha, good point", or MCU type of "hey little Groot, do not hit this button -> Groot wants to hit that button".

Of course it should have some humor, it's He-man, it's more on the MCU side of things, but I always appreciate something more subtle.
 
Chris Hemsworth nearly naked for most of an entire film length: no, no. I don't think my circulatory system could withstand that, I want to live to see retirement.

Get someone like Rock or Armie Hammer; could have a good body, but I can also see him as a goof, so it's not so overwhelming.
 
They may play with it by not making He-Man this infallible character that always comes out on top. Like he's superhumanly strong but there are still shades of the inexperienced Prince Adam in there.
 

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