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[Venom'sDad]

What do you mean "stealthy"?

Well, I have came up with an idea that Peter does not know right away that GG was involved; and, like the comics, question whelther she was already dead or from the truma of him catching her. I have him going after another villain...which would be the main villain for TAS2. Allowing him to discover the truth and seek revenge in TAS3. Sparing more screen development time to Norman Osborn and the inner working of Oscorps.

This is the reason why I said(in another thread) I would have Vulture, Chameleon, Norman, and Spencer Smythe in TAS2. 2 & 3, in movie time frame, takes part immediate after...a to be continue scenario, if you will.

 

[socool]

Well, I have came up with an idea that Peter does not know right away that GG was involved and like the comics, question whelther she was already dead or from the truma of him catching her. I have him going after another villain...which would be the main villain for TAS2. Allowing him to discover the truth and seek revenge in TAS3.

This is the reason why I said(in another thread) I would have Vulture, Chameleon, Norman, and Spencer Smythe in TAS2. 2 & 3, in movie time frame, takes part immediate after...a to be continue, if you will.

That doesn't work at all, though. How would he not know that Green Goblin, the man that talks to him and is seen throwing Gwen off the bridge, is her killer? Unless you planned on killing her differently, but you said you wanted the reason for death to be a mystery, like the comics, in which case, its the bridge, in which case there is no way Peter doesn't see/hear Goblin.

 

[Troy_Parker]

Well, I have came up with an idea that Peter does not know right away that GG was involved; and, like the comics, question whelther she was already dead or from the truma of him catching her. I have him going after another villain...which would be the main villain for TAS2. Allowing him to discover the truth and seek revenge in TAS3. Sparing more screen development time to Norman Osborn and the inner working of Oscorps.

This is the reason why I said(in another thread) I would have Vulture, Chameleon, Norman, and Spencer Smythe in TAS2. 2 & 3, in movie time frame, takes part immediate after...a to be continue scenario, if you will.

So you don't want Spider-Man present when it happens?

Sorry, but no.

Spider-Man going crazy with rage, and vowing to kill the Goblin is something I WANT to see on screen.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I didn't say that, read what I said, "About questioning how she died". Dude, reading comprehension 101.

 

[Lord]

this in nr 2



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who dies first , the father or the daughter ?

He'll probably die in this one but i would prefer him to die in film 2

 

[Venom'sDad]

That doesn't work at all, though. How would he not know that Green Goblin, the man that talks to him and is seen throwing Gwen off the bridge, is her killer? Unless you planned on killing her differently, but you said you wanted the reason for death to be a mystery, like the comics, in which case, its the bridge, in which case there is no way Peter doesn't see/hear Goblin.

That's the intriguing aspect of telling a different perspective of "The Death of Gwen Stacy". GG is a villain that Spidey don't know exist or have...which is very dangerous. Especially given the outcome. This is where Vulture and Chameleon plays a very important and deadly role as the main villains in TAS2 in my adaption of Gwen's story. There are questions un-answered, that is a segue to TAS3. as I have explain previously. It's how one tell the story.

Peter/Spidey sees something in the sky, and assume he know what it is.

 

[Troy_Parker]

I didn't say that, read what I said, "About questioning how she died". Dude, reading comprehension 101.

But your post doesn't make sense.

You want the Green Goblin to be there, in front of Spider-Man when this happens, then you want Peter to go off chasing some other villain?

EDIT: And how would he not know that the Goblin was involved when it happened before his very eyes? :|

 

[Venom'sDad]

Again, read what I said, I never said GG was in TAS2, I just said Norman.

 

[socool]

You still haven't answered the question.

How does Peter not know Green Goblin kills Gwen?

 

[Troy_Parker]

Again, read what I said, I never said GG was in TAS2, I just said Norman.

"Well, I have came up with an idea that Peter does not know right away that GG was involved; and, like the comics, question whelther she was already dead or from the truma of him catching her. I have him going after another villain...which would be the main villain for TAS2. Allowing him to discover the truth and seek revenge in TAS3. Sparing more screen development time to Norman Osborn and the inner working of Oscorps."

So do you want her to die in TASM 2 or 3?

If it's in 2, how is that going to work if you don't want the Goblin in that?

 

[Troy_Parker]

You still haven't answered the question.

How does Peter not know Green Goblin kills Gwen?

He blinked and missed it.


xD

 

[Eggyman]

You still haven't answered the question.

How does Peter not know Green Goblin kills Gwen?

Before Goblin throws her off the bridge he'll shave her pubes into the shape of a pumpkin. It'll be his new gritty calling card.

How Spidey finds out I don't know.

 

[Troy_Parker]

Before Goblin throws her off the bridge he'll shave her pubes into the shape of a pumpkin. It'll be his new gritty calling card.

How Spidey finds out I don't know.

The cheeky git!

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

Oscorp's presence and build-up and the Stacy saga make me sure that Gwen's going to die eventually.

 

[Lord]

Again, read what I said, I never said GG was in TAS2, I just said Norman.

Lol, your explanations don't make any sence
Spider-man sees a flying object and then Gwen Stacy falling, if that happened when spider-man rushed to help her she would already be in the water

 

[TheSlag]

He'll probably die in this one but i would prefer him to die in film 2

I agree, that I would prefer to see him die in the second one, but I also agree that I think it's going to happen in this one.

Hopefully it will still have the impact it should, if they build up his character first, and establish his relationship with Peter first.

 

[Venom'sDad]

You still haven't answered the question.

How does Peter not know Green Goblin kills Gwen?

Again, GG is a villain that Spidey does not know he has, GG is not in the TAS2, Norman is. This what I mean Stealthy. All the GA see is Norman skillfully and suspiciously working something behind the scene, with the aid of Chameleon. Vulture is the film main villain; therefore, Peter and the GA are focus on Vulture being the bad guy. There is no hint that GG lurks. So when Peter and GA see that Gwen is missing/kidnapped, everyone assume it's Vulture. And when one sees a faint green villain over the bridge dropping Gwen from a great height/distance, one automatically assume it Vulture, the film's main bad guy. So obviously, Peter goes after Vulture in the film's final showdown. True Events transpire in TAS3 as Peter starts to discover he has a more deadlier, cunning villain in the Norman/GG and discover his young mind was wrong about everything. Not only does he has to deal with taking revenge on GG; but, taking revenge period, especially taking that revenge on the wrong person. Opening up some of his own detective skills that Stan Lee also portrayed in the comics.

 

[VenomSpawn]

Before Goblin throws her off the bridge he'll shave her pubes into the shape of a pumpkin. It'll be his new gritty calling card.

How Spidey finds out I don't know.

Interesting....

 

[socool]

Again, GG is a villain that Spidey does not know he has, GG is not in the TAS2, Norman is. This what I mean Stealthy. All the GA see is Norman skillfully and suspiciously working something behind the scene, with the aid of Chameleon. Vulture is the film main villain; therefore, Peter and the GA are focus on Vulture being the bad guy. There is no hint that GG lurks. So when Peter and GA see that Gwen is missing/kidnapped, everyone assume it's Vulture. And when one sees a faint green villain over the bridge dropping Gwen from a great height/distance, one automatically assume it Vulture, the film's main bad guy. So obviously, Peter goes after Vulture in the film's final showdown. True Events transpire in TAS3 as Peter starts to discover he has a more deadlier, cunning villain in the Norman/GG and discover his young mind was wrong about everything. Not only does he has to deal with taking revenge on GG; but, taking revenge period, especially taking that revenge on the wrong person. Opening up some of his own detective skills that Stan Lee also portrayed in the comics.

See, was that so hard?

I like the 1st part with GG being secret in TAS2, but if Gwen was dropped from such a high height, that you can't make out Goblin, then Spidey would easily be able to prep himself. The reason the moment was so tense in the comics was because Gwen was dropped from the bridge, giving little time for Spidey to react, causing her neck to snap. If she's dropped from way above, Spidey can just catch her, being under her and all. But I see where the idea comes from, although it's also very out of character for Goblin to secretly kill Gwen. He made it a point that it was HIM in the comics to show Spider-Man just how deadly he is, that Spidey can't win against the likes of him. If he hides that, then that just shows his coward side, something Goblin is not.

 

[Lord]

Funny that if they follow the stacy saga with the death of captain stacy in the 2nd movie then they'll repeat something in the 3 movies
Film 1: Uncle Ben Dies
Film 2: Captain Stacy Dies
Film 3: Gwen Stacy Dies

 

[socool]

Funny that if they follow the stacy saga with the death of captain stacy in the 2nd movie then they'll repeat something in the 3 movies
Film 1: Uncle Ben Dies
Film 2: Captain Stacy Dies
Film 3: Gwen Stacy Dies

Only Uncle Ben dieing was in the Raimi films. Neither Gwen nor Captain Stacy died...what movies did you watch?

 

[Troy_Parker]

Again, GG is a villain that Spidey does not know he has, GG is not in the TAS2, Norman is. This what I mean Stealthy. All the GA see is Norman skillfully and suspiciously working something behind the scene, with the aid of Chameleon. Vulture is the film main villain; therefore, Peter and the GA are focus on Vulture being the bad guy. There is no hint that GG lurks. So when Peter and GA see that Gwen is missing/kidnapped, everyone assume it's Vulture. And when one sees a faint green villain over the bridge dropping Gwen from a great height/distance, one automatically assume it Vulture, the film's main bad guy. So obviously, Peter goes after Vulture in the film's final showdown. True Events transpire in TAS3 as Peter starts to discover he has a more deadlier, cunning villain in the Norman/GG and discover his young mind was wrong about everything. Not only does he has to deal with taking revenge on GG; but, taking revenge period, especially taking that revenge on the wrong person. Opening up some of his own detective skills that Stan Lee also portrayed in the comics.

I like some of that, but you lost me at the faint green villain stuff.

Spider-Man should be RIGHT there when it happens. If Peter's so far away that he can't even make out the Goblin, how does he even have a chance at saving her? A very large part of what made Gwen Stacy's death substantially more tragic was the fact that Spider-Man tried to save her, and he didn't realize that she was dead until he descended to her body.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

See, was that so hard?

I like the 1st part with GG being secret in TAS2, but if Gwen was dropped from such a high height, that you can't make out Goblin, then Spidey would easily be able to prep himself. The reason the moment was so tense in the comics was because Gwen was dropped from the bridge, giving little time for Spidey to react, causing her neck to snap. If she's dropped from way above, Spidey can just catch her, being under her and all. But I see where the idea comes from, although it's also very out of character for Goblin to secretly kill Gwen. He made it a point that it was HIM in the comics to show Spider-Man just how deadly he is, that Spidey can't win against the likes of him. If he hides that, then that just shows his coward side, something Goblin is not.

Exactly! Taking the route of the comics makes it seem more personal, tragic, and to the point. And it solidified the Goblin as Spidey's greatest Villain. And that was proven time and time again for years after Norman died. Even when he was brought back.

 

[TheSlag]

Only Uncle Ben dieing was in the Raimi films. Neither Gwen nor Captain Stacy died...what movies did you watch?

I read it that way too at first, but he is just saying the 3 movies would "each" have a death in them.

Good point too.. makes you think.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Guys, I never said Peter was so far away. You are putting words in my mouth. Its dark, night, over the bay, and you have GG at a great height that can't be discern that it someone other than Vulture, dropping Gwen. He makes the effort, hence questioning how she died by truma or already decease.

And GG is not hiding, just being stealty, a trait of any good, cunning villain. It's a different way of telling the story of Gwen's death without being first of all so forward and predictable; and second, bring some some suspense, thrill, mystery to the drama unfolding. We comic fan know the story, how bland would it be to do the exact same thing.